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Thursday, December 25, 2008

Christmas Greetings from Ahmadinejad

A little while back See Comments by Blogger I posted on the danger of Christians putting out a watered down version of Christianity. Today we see what we get Ahmadinejad is sending us our Christmas greetings. In doing so, he mouths the very dummied down Christianity that I warn against.

20 comments:

Donald Douglas said...

Hope you're having a wonderful Christmas! Wishing you and yours the best for the new year.

Blogger said...

Donald Douglas, your blog is worth reading. I linked to it. Thanks.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

What's has Ahmadinejad said that you disagree with? Did I miss the greeting?

Blogger said...

Liberal, You did not miss anything if you did not read about it. Just typical mushy version of Jesus, very similar to what liberals believe is Jesus' message.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

How many version of Christianty are there? Blogger you have one version you believe. What is your proof you're correct that the others don't have as prove they're correct?
I never found where Jesus supported the establishment, I though that's what got him in trouble with the law?

RV said...

What is the mush you are referring to? Is it saying that Jesus' message was to love rather than to hate and seek revenge? Which is actually harder to do? Is the difficulty of following the message the reason you have to comfort yourself with the last verses of Mark in which condemnation of people who have not been baptized, snake handling, drinking toxic things, and speaking in tongues are described as the role of disciples? Which behavior would do more good in the world?

Blogger said...

You have heard of the expression “inside joke.” You know that means that the listeners are on the inside and understand the joke, but all the other people remain in the dark. Jesus spoke to Jews with thousands of years of cultural preparation, readying them for His message. They were on the inside, had heard most of the stories before, and still did not understand what He was saying. If they, with all that preparation, had trouble deciphering His revelation, think how easy is it for us to become confused.

On the other hand, as I keep repeating, though His words are confusing, His actions are not confusing at all. Observe Him as He spends His time casting out unclean spirits, healing the sick, declaring this was the reestablishment of the reign of God. Instructed to do the same, His disciples went out and duplicated exactly what He had modeled for them.

Somewhere along the way, no longer able to do what they were told to do, nor to understand what Jesus had done, people made up a religion they could understand and do. RV and Liberal, Can I make myself any clearer?

RV said...

Blogger, read again the story about the loaves and the fishes. Matthew 14: 13-21. Jesus was very upset about what happened to his cousin John. Yet, when the crowds followed him to a remote place, he showed compassion and healed them. His disciples wanted him to send them away to buy their own food, but Jesus told his disciples to give them something to eat. He fed all 5000 of them.

It is stories like this that lead me to believe Jesus was a liberal.

Liberal POV said...

RV

Great post, I get if blogger doesn't.

I also remember his dissatisfaction with the money changers.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Because Jesus healed the sick, did he also believe health care was a basic human right?

Sparky said...

Reading these posts makes me think intellectual honesty is almost a thing of the past. Blogger is simply stating the fact - Jesus did far more than give money to the poor and treat people kindly. He also cast out demons, healed the sick through supernatural power, cleansed lepers, and raised the dead. The overwhelming weight of New Testament passages and church history support Blogger's claims - believe it, or not.

RV said...

Sparky, I am not saying that He did not do all those things. He spent his ministry comforting, healing, instructing, casting out demons, and leaving hope where there had been despair. He emphasized God's love for his people. Is it intellectually dishonest to emphasize the message of love - love of God and love of fellow man when He talked more about this than anything else? He also talked about forgiveness. He asked God to forgive the people who crucified Him. He asked people to forgive each other rather than seek revenge. He knew what would heal people and what would not.

Reader said...

There's a difference in the words sluggard and poor. If you don't believe Christ is coming back, pulling verses from the bible, are just pulling verses for your own self gratification.

Liberal POV said...

Sparky and Blogger

"Blogger is simply stating the fact "
Sparky even if you have been to heaven and spoke to God personally you could not prove that as fact.

How can you have facts in religion?

You only have religious theroy not fact, believing such theroies are fact is what causes wars.

Blogger said...

Liberal and RV, In picking the feeding of the multitude, you could not have picked a better Scripture to disprove your point and support mine. Jesus chastised his disciples for saying exactly what you two are saying. However, I think I will give you time to study that story. I do suggest you ask the Holy Spirit to guide you in your comprehension.

RV said...

I have read the story again. I am not sure what you are referring to unless it is the miraculous nature of taking five loaves and two fishes and feeding all the people. But in order for this miracle to take place, Jesus had to want to feed them (because he loved them).

Reader said...

Blogger, I will try to help if I may.

RV, Jesus fed the people because they followed Him into the wilderness, listening to Him teach God's word. He didn't feed them because they were poor, he fed them because they were hungry.

Liberal POV said...

Reader

"He didn't feed them because they were poor, he fed them because they were hungry."

OK?? and the difference?

Reader said...

Okay RV I give up.

RV said...

Reader, I don't think Jesus only cared about the poor. He cared about everyone. He fed the people because they were hungry, even though the disciples suggested sending them away to find their own food. Blogger thinks the point of this story is the miracle of the loaves and fishes. I think the point is to teach us to be compassionate. Two people can read the same thing and come up with completely different understandings. This is fine, as long as people are thinking for themselves.