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Sunday, November 7, 2010

Aleady I Am Angry With the Republican Leadership, No Women, No Tea Partiers

This post is to ask the opinion of those readers who are either Tea Partiers or have positive feelings toward the Tea Party.

This morning, on Fox New Sunday, Chris Wallace asked Eric Cantor why the leadership is supporting Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas over Tea Party member Rep. Michelle Bachman for the fourth in line leadership position. Cantor responded that he and Hensarling have worked well in the past.

Chris Wallace hearing what Cantor said loud and clear, responded would not the people see that as just more of “the same good old boy politics?” Cantor squirmed.

Already, I am angry at our new leadership and I believe if they diss Bachman, they will be dissing the Tea Party at their great peril. They better dance with the ones who brought them, or they will soon be dancing alone.

I want those who feel the same to let me know and I will send your responses to Rep. Foxx.
Michelle Bachman
Michelle Bachman
Perils of dissing the women

67 comments:

guy faulkes said...

I agree 100%. If the Republicans go back to business as usual, then they are dead as a party, at least as far as I am concerned.

Bi Surprise, right?

Honest Debate said...

Boehner has endorsed neither. Paul Ryan has endorsed Hensarling. Sarah Palin refuses to endorse Bachman.

I like Michelle Bachman a lot but I am not at all familiar with Jeb Hensarling. For all I know Hensarling is better for the Tea Party agenda, does that matter?

Please Guy and Blogger, you must know more about Hensarling than I to have such strong opinions. I hope you do anyway, I'd hate to think your reactions were kneejerk. Tell me about him.

Honest Debate said...

In my quest for knowledge of Jeb Hensarling I found this ranking by "The Hill".

Most partisan Republicans:
1. Tom Price (Ga.)
2. Virginia Foxx (N.C.)
3. Jeb Hensarling (Texas)
4. Patrick McHenry (N.C.)
5. Michele Bachmann (Minn.)

I have yet to find an opinion from Foxx on the matter but I'm looking.

Honest Debate said...

Here's Hensarling's website. Check out his bio under "About Me".

I've got to tell you, I see no problems. He's been around since 2003. He's for repeal of health care and earmarks. He's good on National security. He was against TARP. I can't find anything bad. He's from Texas, maybe Sark has some insight.

What do you guys know that I don't?

NewGuy said...

I don't know how to make a case for Bachman over Hensarling.

Hensarling has been there longer, and perhaps has the greater influence within the party. He seems to be as solidly behind Tea Party principals as Bachman is. I haven't compared them vote-by-vote but, in my opinion, Bachman is every bit as acceptable and deserving as Bachman.

I just hope it doesn't become a big fight and distract, or divide the new majority!

Let the process decide!

Wolf's Head said...

I think Mrs Bachman should be the new Speaker of the House instead of the plastic establishment John Boehner.

This Congress will have terrible decisions to make regarding the debt, I believe that Mrs. Bachman better understands the people who elected them and the seriousness of the problem.

Honest Debate said...

Good Question

Blogger said...

No recognizable tea party people and no women in the leadership--looks like old fashioned cronyism (Cantor, Ryan and Hensarling even look alike and sound alike) The people voted to get some feisty new spokespeople. HD if you had to spend that much time to look up Hensarling, obviously he was not on the people's radar. Bachman helped Tea Party members get elected. She deserves a big reward. On top of all that is if she is put down, the leadership has already stepped in it big time.

Blogger said...

New Guy "I just hope it doesn't become a big fight and distract, or divide the new majority!"

New Guy, I think it already has. Among other things, this exhibition of tone deafness is very troublesome. If the leadership keeps it up, look for a third party next time.

Blogger said...

HD "Most partisan Republicans:"
If they are about equal, for obvious reasons, the leadership would go with the women, the tea party leader, and the feisty spoke person--Bachman. It is a no brainer, unless the hidden agenda is the leadership already is afraid of these new folks and plans to muzzle them from the get-go.

Blogger said...

HD Boemer has to work with all of them so he says he is keeping a low profile. Since she signaled she might not support him for Speaker, he may be involved in some childish backroom deals. I hope not.

By the way, where did you find that Palin would not support Bachman? They seemed to be grooving together. If somewhere Palin says she is not behind her as a member of the leadership, that would not be any of her business. That is strictly for the members to decide unless she is talking as a private citizen like you or me.

guy faulkes said...

I do not have anything against Hersarling other than (in my opinion) he is closer to the Republican establishment than is Bauchman.

I do not trust the business as usual establishment of either party in an outhouse with a muzzle on. My comment was meant to be concerning the conservative overthrow of the establishment.

Honest Debate said...

Blogger,

The Daily Caller had the story about Palin. Here's the relevant part:

Palin, in an e-mail to The Daly Caller, declined to endorse Bachmann, even though she has been an outspoken advocate on the congresswoman’s behalf and accused Politico of sexism Thursday for using a picture of Bachmann having makeup applied to her face.

“I’m taking a position on who gets to sit in the big boy highchair this morning for breakfast… Trig or Tripp?” Palin said, referring to her son and grandson, respectively. “Leadership in the US Congress this morning? Nah … not ’till after the Cheerios,” Palin said.

Palin did not say she was not behind Bachman she just wouldn't say she was. She's staying out of it as you suggested. I do think she would speak up if she supported her but I don't know that.

Bachman did do a lot for the tea party but that doesn't mean she deserves to be rubberstamped for any leadership position she wants. That seems to be what you're saying but I don't want to put words in your mouth. I'm certainly a fan of Bachman and am not saying I wouldn't like to see her rewarded.

One problem is there is no Tea Party. There were Republican candidates that were elected by embracing the issues of the movement but Bachman isn't one of them as she was elected in 2007. As far as I'm concerned anyone who embraces the Tea Party issues is tea partier. Hensarling certainly does and is definitely not part of the "establishment". The main difference is he has a longer track record of fighting the good fight compared to Bachman. I want the best person for the job. I could not care less what sex thay are or what they look like.

Everything I'm reading tells me there will be no backlash if Hensarling is chosen because he is respected and even more conservative than Bachman. He's everything the Tea Party stands for.

Don't get the following wrong because I don't know that Bachman isn't the better choice but if she isn't and she is chosen just as a backroom payback for campaigning then that would be a shame. We need the very best.

If Hensarling is chosen there are plenty of other ways to reward Bachman and she's been around only 3 years. She's a rising star. So are Cantor, Ryan and apparently Hensarling. I especially like Ryan and he is the only one who has proposed actual solutions to the debt. The Republican establishment ran from it as fast as they could when they made their "Pledge for America". They are the good guys. They are the fresh new blood. Don't turn on them yet.

Honest Debate said...

Wolf,

I tend to agree with you about Boehner, although he is saying the right things: "I'm going to make sure this healthcare bill never ever, ever is implemented."

Talk is cheap.

Liberal POV said...

Conservatives

You folks are very slow learners, those hundreds of millions invested by Americans wealthiest into this years election has nothing to do with you or the Tea Party Mob.

The likes of the Koch Brothers want to avoid paying for the wars, Americas failing infustructure, job creation, pensions or public schools.

These same people want back at the corporate welfare that has made them rich.

You were just pawns in their game of power.

I don't think any of you're in a tax bracket to benefit from the tax cuts. Wolf's kids will get screwed by these bastards as they could care less about our military men and women as their kids have better things to do as Dick Cheney said.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, if your opinions haven't always bee irrelevant (they have), November 2, certainly prove them to be.

I hope you can survive mentally and not decide to end int all in a religious frenzy as do your terrorist "martyr" heroes.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Being in the minority doesn't make one wrong.

You and other conservatives have been conned by the use of fear, bigotry, religion, and lots and lots of money by those far richer than you or I.

Liberal POV said...

Guy and Local Conservatives

Why do you think those billionaires invested so much money into this election?

Which of your own personal hot button issues do you think they were concerned about?

Maybe taxes but unless you're a lot richer than you sound you would do better under the Democrat tax plan.

Mike D, works for food services at the University ( He said he would be servinig you Republicans drinks ) and depends on public transportation. How is the Republican plan to aid the rich going to help him?

They don't give a damn about you or your beliefs other than to keep you pissed off and voting to protect their wealth and power.

What fools you people are!

Let me know when they make life better for you and your family.

Sarkazein said...

"Let me know when they make life better for you and your family."-POV


The child speaks. He still looks at government as Mommy and Daddy.
POV- most Conservatives want to better their own lives and others lives by their own actions. What's so hard about that?

Honest Debate said...

"Why do you think those billionaires invested so much money into this election?" -LiberalPOV

I don't know you'd have to ask Soros.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

The fool speaks!

"most Conservatives want to better their own lives and others lives by their own actions. What's so hard about that?"

Politics and Government always effects our lives for better or worst.

Politics and government decides if we go to war, have good roads, sea ports, freedom, safe communities, good or bad schools, parks, tax rates, justice, public transportation, courts, jobs, fire and police protection, who getss to be citizens, building codes for safe and lasting construction, clean air, safe food, safe medication, who can practice medicine, where military bases are located.

You and conservatives believe in some myth you alone control the world you live in and your life has no need for government.

Now which of your own personal hot button issues do you think they ( The Billionaire funding the tea party and conservative movement) were concerned about when dumping tens of millions into this election?

You and the other conservatives posting here are just pawns in their game of power and greed.

Sarkazein said...

POV asks- "Now which of your own personal hot button issues do you think they ( The Billionaire funding the tea party and conservative movement) were concerned about when dumping tens of millions into this election?"

The Marxist/Fascist takeover of my country.

LiberalGreggPOV said...

"The Marxist/Fascist takeover of my country." -Sarkazein

Besides that?

Honest Debate said...

Tea Party Leadership

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"The Marxist/Fascist takeover of my country."

What complete bullshit! Obama isn't even a liberal.

You damn fools would let the whole world economic system collapse.

You fools don't even know the meaning of the terms Capitalism, Socialism, Communism or Fascist. I doubt any of you have been outside of the US unless on a military base or a crusie ship neither allowing a view of the real world.

Fascism is a ultra conservative government.

How is todays Chineese Market Communism tht different then our Walmartism?

Walmart, Dell or Apple get all sorts of government incentives ( Tax breaks, roads built, infustructure ) to locate in say Lenoir NC.

Defense contractors are sacred cow for the conservatives but are nothing more than corporate welfare for folks like Dick Cheney.

Conservatives have no problem with corporate socialism or Human rights abuse.

The conservative slogan is Power to the Rich!

Sarkazein said...

POV-wrote- "Sark

"The Marxist/Fascist takeover of my country."

What complete bulls#@t! Obama isn't even a liberal."


Your comment reads that to be a liberal you must be a Marxist/Fascist. I am happy you recognize the qualifications.

Sarkazein said...

POV- the rest of your comment has been disproven/disproved over and over in the past. Nothing has changed... except, there is now proof, by the election, that most are aware of Obama's attempts to CHANGE the US to a Marxist/Fascist State.

STATE control= Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism

Sarkazein said...

Off the subject, I too want to see as many Tea Party supported Congressmen/women in the Leadership positions of the next Congress. If they are not, this could all be for naught as the Olde Guard protect their nests.

Liberal POV said...

Sark And Tea Party Fools


""The Marxist/Fascist takeover of my country."

Terms like the one above where just bullshit terms like the death panels or death taxes without definition. The right wing propaganda machine has you pissed off over none issues so you fools would go vote THEIR interest not yours.

You will not see improvements to your families life or any change on hot button issues, most don't exist to begin with.

Gays will get to serve openly in the military, soon, gays will be allowed to marry soon, the deficit will continue to sky rocket maybe more now the Republican will want to restart star wars and other defense industry welfare.

The Health Care Bill will be weakened and shifted from serving low income citizens to serving insurance, medical industry and pharmaceuticals.

Education in America will continue to decline, more prisons will be built costing more tax dollars.

The borders will remain as they are with uncontrolled immigration.

Jobs and justice are not on the Republican agenda.

You people have been conned.

Blogger said...

Voters Like Tea Party

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

The Tea Party has to have answers to America problems and they don't even know the right questions.

The Tea Party has done the job the billionaire founders wanted done these people that funded the movement will simply withhold funding when the movement is no longer useful.

You're a simple pawn in their game of power and greed. You have been conned.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"STATE control= Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism"

What is Capitalism and what is the responsiblity of Capitalist? Dickens wrote of pure Capitalist as did John Stienbeck.

How do the Lockeed Martins, Walmart, or Duke Power fit into your version of Capitalism?

Johnny Rico said...

As a female, I am physically and mentally attracted to Bachman - let's get that straight. Wolf's Head is completely on target - Bachman should be the Speaker. Conservatives need a voice, and the same old RINOs aren't going to cut it. Republican leadership had better do something spectacular within the next 60 days or its all over. I would love the opportunity to hammer away at a RINO in 2012 as I did in this year's election.

Bachman is a piece of work, both physically and professionally. Aside from Mary Bono Mack over in CA, she is about the hottest female politician out there. Put her mug as speaker and see what true galvanization takes place amongst conservatives. Eric who? John Bohner who? Carl Rove who? All RINOs whom I rank lower than the liberal socialists they emulate. The question revolves around whether or not Republicans will squander another golden opportunity.

Anonymous said...

damn rico's a lesbo.

guy faulkes said...

Rico said she was bisexual long ago. It did not matter then. It does not matter now.

Liberalproverbs18:2, why do you feel the need to continue to chant La La La La La? No one cares about your many times discredited opinions. You are the poster child that proves liberalism's idiocy.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

You're much better at non issues of Death panels, gun fetishes, scapegoat bashing than real issues.

Johnny Rico said...

Nonnymouse,

I was indeed a lesbian although I do currently have a boyfriend. Does it matter any? Are my votes or opinions or civil rights any less because of it?

At any rate, we must hold the new Republican leadership in the house to the standard by which they were elected. You already have Senior Senators blaming Palin for losing the Senate. I blame no one except the RINO Republitards. They are the idiots who lost a truly great opportunity. George Bush is an idiot also, and the only reason I voted for him is the fact he was better than Trogyldyte Kerry. If we don't see something happen immediately, even if it's symbolic in nature, then Republitards are doomed. The House Leader (I would love to look at Bachman on a regular basis) should put forth a bill restricting Congressional pay, health care, and retirements to that of regular federal workers. That would send a clear, convincing message that Republitards mean business. When the Demotards vote it down in the Senate, it would make them bullish to something that should have been passed long ago. There are many issues (gun freedom) Republitards could use to bludgeon their way to glory. Only time will tell if they are smart enough to come up with something truly earth shattering.

What is our liberal socialist sheep POV up to these days? Trying to run other people's lives, spend their hard earned money, and whine about how the world owes him something? LOL!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Sarkazein said...

Johnny Rico- We have a lot in common.

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

Do you think the Republican owners will end the wars or cut the military budget?

Will star wars missile project restart for billions in corporate welfare to the defense industry?

Will the deficit be reduced by Republicans? Have Republicans ever reduced the deficit?

By the way heard today the Arizona immagration law was written by a for profit prison group wanting to fill their prisons with undocumented women and children who were American residents to get richer on the backs of these powerless people.

These new people you have put in power don't give a rats ass about people like you or your hot button issues. They will need those same non issues to get you pissed off the next election cycle. Why would they want to fix them?

You will not see improvements to your families life or any change on hot button issues, most don't exist to begin with.

Gays will get to serve openly in the military, soon, gays will be allowed to marry soon, the deficit will continue to sky rocket maybe more now the Republican will want to restart star wars and other defense industry welfare.

The Health Care Bill will be weakened and shifted from serving low income citizens to serving insurance, medical industry and pharmaceuticals.

Education in America will continue to decline, more prisons will be built costing more tax dollars.

The borders will remain as they are with uncontrolled immigration.

Jobs and justice are not on the Republican agenda.

You people have been conned.

guy faulkes said...

La La La La La. You really need to learn a new song, Liberalproverbs18:2. How doe it feel to have it proven to you that you are out of touch and irrelevant?

NewGuy said...

Johnny Rico "...put forth a bill restricting Congressional pay, health care, and retirements to that of regular federal workers.

Don't be misled by some of the urban legends which circulate on the internet. Congressional pensions and health insurance benefits are in line with other federal workers. It is NOT true, for example, that a congressman can retire at full salary.

Pay, of course, depends on the salary level...I believe top level federal employees are paid equivalent to congressmen.

Sarkazein said...

POV- You have proven yourself wrong at almost every turn.
I would bet you still see Obama as a great uniter, not counting the uniting of the Conservatives of course.
You said we would all be singing Obama's praises in his second year.
Think about the $200,000,000 A DAY Obama and his wife are spending on an ego boost ($50,000 a day has to be material cost for Michele's masonry trowel applied make-up... add labor costs and she is probably looking for cheap India make-up application outsourcing).

guy faulkes said...

New Guy, I have a friend that was a major general. He told me his retirement was nowhere near that of a Congresscritter.

Do you think he was a top federal official? What constitutes such a person?

Just wondering what your source was. My friend may not have been accurate in his statement as he may not know what the retirement of a Congresscritter is.

Liberal POV said...

Sark and GOP Grumpy Old People

"($50,000 a day has to be material cost for Michele's masonry trowel applied make-up... add labor costs and she is probably looking for cheap India make-up application outsourcing)."

What pettiness! What small little people!

With all the serious problems facing the American people. You want to spend time on such insults and pettiness?

Sarkazein said...

POV, she's scary

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"POV, she's scary"

Lets add racist to that also.

HD, This is the company you keep?

Sarkazein said...

POV, what are you saying? Are you thinking that only Black women can wear oven baked make-up? Are you thinking that only Black women have full-time make-up artists on the government payroll? (possible on the last one) Are you thinking that only Black women require make-up by the sack mix? Are you thinking way too much make-up is racially derogatory? Tammy Faye Michelle Obama.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

"HD, This is the company you keep?"

Sadly, I've never met Sarkazein but if I ever get to Houston I'm going to look him up. I'm assuming "Sarkazein" is in the phone book.

Is this racist? How about this?

Keep in mind the latter was featured in "Vanity Fair".

BTW, it's racist to call someone racist with no evidence, you racist you.

Liberal POV said...

HD

Come on your more intelligent than that.

Your two examples portray Bush as a clown and a joker. The image Sark posted is a racial sterotype.

http://www.black-face.com/

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"POV, what are you saying? Are you thinking that only Black women can wear oven baked make-up? "

The link you posted is racist.

The first post was just petty small minded non issue GOP garbage when you don't want to debate reality.

Liberal POV said...

Conservatives, Tea Party Mob

How about some engagement here?


Do you think the Republican owners will end the wars or cut the military budget?

Will star wars missile project restart for billions in corporate welfare to the defense industry?

Will the deficit be reduced by Republicans? Have Republicans ever reduced the deficit?


Why do you think those billionaires invested so much money into this election?

Which of your own personal hot button issues do you think they were concerned about?

Maybe taxes but unless you're a lot richer than you sound you would do better under the Democrat tax plan.


Politics and Government always effects our lives for better or worst.

Politics and government decides if we go to war, have good roads, sea ports, freedom, safe communities, good or bad schools, parks, tax rates, justice, public transportation, courts, jobs, fire and police protection, who getss to be citizens, building codes for safe and lasting construction, clean air, safe food, safe medication, who can practice medicine, where military bases are located.

Gays will get to serve openly in the military, soon, gays will be allowed to marry soon, the deficit will continue to sky rocket maybe more now the Republican will want to restart star wars and other defense industry welfare.

The Health Care Bill will be weakened and shifted from serving low income citizens to serving insurance, medical industry and pharmaceuticals.

Education in America will continue to decline, more prisons will be built costing more tax dollars.

The borders will remain as they are with uncontrolled immigration.

Jobs and justice are not on the Republican agenda.

What do you want changed and what do you think will really happen?

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I try not be be bombastic like this but you are such an idiot.

The pictures of Michelle, Barrack and GWB are ALL portrayals of the Joker from batman.

What "racial stereotype" are you referring to?

What does blackface have to do with anything? The make up is white! That's not blackface.

This,this,this,and this are examples of blackface. The last one isn't doctored. It's just a liberal trying and failing to be funny.

Button up, your racism is showing.

Honest Debate said...

"How about some engagement here?" - LiberalPOV

No thanks.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"No thanks."

Too much reality for you to handle?

NewGuy said...

GUY FAULKS said:"New Guy, I have a friend that was a major general. He told me his retirement was nowhere near that of a Congresscritter.

Do you think he was a top federal official? What constitutes such a person?

Just wondering what your source was. My friend may not have been accurate in his statement as he may not know what the retirement of a Congresscritter is.


Guy,....my fault, I should have been more specific and said "Top Federal civilian. official". I don't know how military pensions compare but, I believe that they are comparable in many ways, superior in others (free health care for life, PX benefits, etc). Federal law enforcement people also have a slightly different plan which requires fewer years of service to qualify for benefits.

My point was that the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) is the basis for all retirees who entered federal (civilian) service after the mid 80s. I did some research on this a while back and posted from my memory,not from a particular direct source. However, wiki pretty much confirms what I have said HERE .

Now I am not arguing whether or not the plan is too generous....but rather that it is the SAME plan that all federal employees are under (since mid 80s) A prior retirement system, the Civil Service Retirement System which was grandfathered in for those who were in federal service prior to the new plan, is a little more generous in many respects, but is still the same for congress as it is for civilian employees.

When you read the source link...or research other sources, keep in mind that when they say "full pension" they do not mean retirement at "full pay". I think that is the source of some of the information. A "full pension" means no reduction in pension benefits but, those benefits are based on a formula factoring in years of service, age and salary history.






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Employees_Retirement_System

NewGuy said...

GUY FAULKS

Here is a snopes link on the subject....

SNOPES

Sarkazein said...

POV- You don't even believe green hair is a "Black thing", or that Batman movies are racist. You are admitting that one has to lie to be a liberal.

guy faulkes said...

New Guy, thank you for the links.

What do you know about the Senior Executive Service. They have substantial salaries and are supposed to get get from three quarters to one hundred percent of their annual salaries in retirement. I found nothing about their retirement program except several sources said it was different from the regular government retirement system.

NewGuy said...

Guy....I don't have any personal knowledge, but, as far as I know...heir retirement is the same.

If I get a chance, I will do a little research on it. Might be interesting.

One thing I should have mentioned....the US SENATE has a rule/policy/whatever that, if you die in office your next of kin continues to draw your salary for a full year (or maybe its a lump sum, I dont know). I know that the civil service people get a certain amount of basic life insurance for no cost and then have the option to buy up to a certain maximum of salary multiples (but not at a bargain rate). It COULD be that some SES employees have added benefits like that.

NewGuy said...

I should have added that I believe they are subject to the same salary cap as other federal employees. Bonuses and salaries combined cannot exceed a certain limit (I think it's the same amount as Senatorial pay. All executive dept "heads" (Sec of Def, Sec of Labor, etc) are capped at that amount and all their suboordinates fall UNDER that ceiling.

It has, in the past, led to some interesting things......Second in command making about 100 bucks a year less than his boss....and his bonus thus is limited to the 100 he is under the cap.

Honest Debate said...

***UPDATE from Michelle Bachman***

“Jeb Henserling has my enthusiastic support for his candidacy to become Republican House Conference Chair. Jeb has demonstrated his commitment to limited government, reduced spending and lower taxes and he will be a strong voice for the Tea Party’s call for these values.

“I look forward to continuing my consistent support of the Tea Party. I plan to advance the Tea Party ideals through their listening arm, the Tea Party Caucus. It is my wish to bring new faces to the caucus, including freshmen members.”

“The new Congress will have great opportunities to lead our country into the direction our founders intended. I spoke with Mr. Boehner and other members of leadership and I am convinced they will wholeheartedly work towards the issues the American people are calling for such as fiscal responsibility, ending the bailouts and repealing Obamacare.”

Blogger said...

Newt Gingrich had an interesting take on Bachman. He feels she is another Sarah Palin with a lot of the same type of charisma and following. She is able to raise large amounts of money and will be big time on the speaking circuit. She will even be able to make money for herself.

He believes she realizes that.

Honest Debate said...

Blogger,

I heard Bachman suggest (before she dropped out) it should be a rule that anyone in leadership have at least 100,000 facebook friends. She has 140,000. Interesting.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"I heard Bachman suggest (before she dropped out) it should be a rule that anyone in leadership have at least 100,000 facebook friends. She has 140,000. Interesting."


Are you serious?

What silliness!

Can we say groupies on Medicare?

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"She will even be able to make money for herself."

I think this sums up both Palin and Bachman. Don't take anything they post or say as truthful just profitable to THEM.

Both are posting lies they refuse to backup with facts but you fools eat it up like a bunch of teenage groupies.

guy faulkes said...

What about Clinton and Gore, Liberalproverbs18:2? Does their spreading lies for money not count?

Please inform me of a lie Palin or Bachman has told.

I will lead off with Clinton and Gore lies. "I did not have sex with that woman" effected a perjury charge. The debunked scam of man induced global warming is another.

Honest Debate said...

"Are you serious? What silliness!" -LiberalPOV

I had the same initial reaction but after thinking about it I kinda' like the idea. I don't know about a rule but I like the notion of Congress having their finger on the pulse so to speak. It's a new world.