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The question arrises was the minister there to honor a member of his church, his family, members of his faith Church of God, Baptist or was he there in an official capacity to honor the dead of ALL faiths?
America has Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindu, non believers buried in the National Cemeteries.
I think you would agree respect should be paid to ALL Veterans buried in National Cemetteries.
I would suggest, if you don't want clergy to mention their religion, don't invite them to speak. What happens if he mentions or notices all those Jesus Crosses?
Yes my opinion would have been the same, dolt. As a matter of fact, a rabbi spoke at my uncle's funeral. It is a pity yours is not. You are the fool that wishes to stifle free speech and freedom of religion in a cemetery, of all places. I suppose you do not even wish a pastor to preside at a funeral.
He was invited to speak. Does that make it an official capacity? If it does, so what? Was the racist rapper poet invited to the white house there in an official capacity? I beleive you defended him.
POV- In your case, putting a bag over your head may be a form of respect for others. In religion, it would be disrespectful in telling someone to not mention their religious beliefs in public.
"The question arrises was the minister there to honor a member of his church, his family, members of his faith Church of God, Baptist"
This is religous freedom we all have.
When a minister speaks as a part of a program to honor ALL veterans of ALL faiths he or she has a duty to show respect for ALL religions and the use of a term like " In Jesus name we pray" is disrespectful to non Christians unless your audience is that of a Christian Family, Christian Church or Christian Services, Christian Funeral or Christian Wedding.
“While respecting people of every faith today, it is in the name of Jesus Christ, the risen Lord, that I pray. Amen.”
This is the closing line of the controversial prayer. For one to understand the importance of praying in the name of Jesus Christ, one would have to have a good understanding of the Christian faith. We Christians, accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, by faith alone. Accepting Jesus Christ is believing, by faith alone, that God sent his son Jesus Christ to us to suffer and die on the cross for our sins. And, we believe that Jesus Christ arose from the dead and sits at the right hand of God where he intercedes for us. Therefore, when we pray, we pray in the name of Jesus Christ, through whom God hears our prays.
Our government does not and should not have the right to tell any of us when, how, where or what to pray.
And, please note that this pastor said that it was he that was praying in the name of Jesus Christ and did it while respecting people of all faith. This shows he also demonstrating love.
In the fourth grade in Winter Park Fla circa 1959, the public school rented a Presbyterian church as its school building while awaiting the completion of a new elementary school building. Even back in the Fifties there were Jews and other religions around. What would happen today?
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The question arrises was the minister there to honor a member of his church, his family, members of his faith Church of God, Baptist or was he there in an official capacity to honor the dead of ALL faiths?
America has Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindu, non believers buried in the National Cemeteries.
I think you would agree respect should be paid to ALL Veterans buried in National Cemetteries.
So, you think that a pastor or any other Christian, pastor or not, only prays for those of his own faith, dolt? Your stupidity is incredible.
If the cleric had been Muslim, you would have been all for him and his first amendment rights.
Guy
He wasn't Muslim, Jewish or Atheist but had he been, would your position be the same?
Was he there in an official capacity to deliver a public message for the National Cemetery?
I would suggest, if you don't want clergy to mention their religion, don't invite them to speak. What happens if he mentions or notices all those Jesus Crosses?
Sark
Your post shows Christianity is the majority religion in America and in no danger.
Act as decent Christians and respect those with different beliefs. Why is that so difficult?
Yes my opinion would have been the same, dolt. As a matter of fact, a rabbi spoke at my uncle's funeral. It is a pity yours is not. You are the fool that wishes to stifle free speech and freedom of religion in a cemetery, of all places. I suppose you do not even wish a pastor to preside at a funeral.
He was invited to speak. Does that make it an official capacity? If it does, so what? Was the racist rapper poet invited to the white house there in an official capacity? I beleive you defended him.
POV- In your case, putting a bag over your head may be a form of respect for others. In religion, it would be disrespectful in telling someone to not mention their religious beliefs in public.
Guy and Sark
Notice my first comment.
"The question arrises was the minister there to honor a member of his church, his family, members of his faith Church of God, Baptist"
This is religous freedom we all have.
When a minister speaks as a part of a program to honor ALL veterans of ALL faiths he or she has a duty to show respect for ALL religions and the use of a term like " In Jesus name we pray" is disrespectful to non Christians unless your audience is that of a Christian Family, Christian Church or Christian Services, Christian Funeral or Christian Wedding.
So, dolt, you would consider someones prayers for you or your family member to be disrespectful because you do not belong to his religion?
This is an interesting thought process. The person is asking the best for you and yours according to his beliefs and it offends you.
You are indeed an idiot.
Guy
"So, dolt"
Why do you have to be such JerK?
"you would consider someones prayers for you or your family member to be disrespectful because you do not belong to his religion? "
This is not at all the same as a minister delivering the official message to a gathering of Americans of differing faiths.
This is not at all the same as a minister delivering the official message to a gathering of Americans of differing faiths. - Liberalproverbs18:2
The difference is only in your sick mind, dolt.
“While respecting people of every faith today, it is in the name of Jesus Christ, the risen Lord, that I pray. Amen.”
This is the closing line of the controversial prayer. For one to understand the importance of praying in the name of Jesus Christ, one would have to have a good understanding of the Christian faith. We Christians, accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, by faith alone. Accepting Jesus Christ is believing, by faith alone, that God sent his son Jesus Christ to us to suffer and die on the cross for our sins. And, we believe that Jesus Christ arose from the dead and sits at the right hand of God where he intercedes for us. Therefore, when we pray, we pray in the name of Jesus Christ, through whom God hears our prays.
Our government does not and should not have the right to tell any of us when, how, where or what to pray.
And, please note that this pastor said that it was he that was praying in the name of Jesus Christ and did it while respecting people of all faith. This shows he also demonstrating love.
In the fourth grade in Winter Park Fla circa 1959, the public school rented a Presbyterian church as its school building while awaiting the completion of a new elementary school building. Even back in the Fifties there were Jews and other religions around. What would happen today?
Fifties separation of Church and State
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