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Thursday, October 13, 2011

VENT PAGE XXVII You Are In Our POWER!

You are getting sleepy......sleepy.....s le      e     p   y  ...When old vent pages start "overflowing" ....a new one is started. This is the TWENTY SEVENTH  in our series and you are NOW under our control

Resistance is futile!

VENT PAGES are handy for posting of off-topic posts, rants, raves, rages, etc which might not be appropriate on other threads where adults are having serious discussions. Childish rant? Need to call another poster a name? Just feel like spouting off? Or even if you have something to say and there doesn't seem to be any other logical place to say it....THIS PAGE IS FOR YOU!

Your Tin Foil Hat is HELPLESS against us!

100 comments:

Wolf's Head said...

Cool graphic.

I'm sure the libs feel like they're in the Twilight Zone when they post here.

Anonymous said...

s o r r y i j u s t c a n t s t o p m y s e l f f r o m p o s t i n g.

guy faulkes said...

This link suggests another inconsistency by the Obama Administration.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-sending-troops-aid-africa-anti-insurgency-183816681.html

If Mr. Obama was concerned about lawlessness and murder, why did he aid the Mexican criminals with Fast and Furious instead of sending troops to fight them as he did in
Africa?

NewGuy said...

If he had been concerned about lawlessness he probably would have done something about the voter intimidation in Philly at the beginning of his term.

Or, would probably NOT have refused to enforce the immigration laws...

Or, would probably not have told the Justice Department NOT to take any action to enforce the DOMA which IS the law.

I miss Bill Clinton! At least he was screwing people ONE AT A TIME!

Sarkazein said...

Obama now increases US military involvement to 9 waring countries and at the same time wants huge DOD cuts.

Saul Alinsky... "Overload the system" to defeat the USA from within.

Sarkazein said...

Obama refuses to turn over ALL Solyndra documents.
Most transparent administration ever... just ask them.
The law said the government would be paid first... Obama paid one of his donors instead. A High crime to be sure. Bribery.

Sarkazein said...

Honest Debate-
"State police have arrested two men accused of stealing a privately owned steel bridge from a secluded area in Lawrence County.

Police said that Benjamin Arthur Jones, 24, and Alexander William Jones, 25, used a torch to tear apart the Covert's Crossing Bridge late last month or early this month. The bridge had been in North Beaver Township since at least the early 1900s and was worth an estimated $100,000.



Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/11288/1182400-100.stm#ixzz1as6f79Fn

Blogger said...

Another liberal myth:
Mock the notion that Saladin (the Muslim leader against the Crusaders) was any less cruel or more civilized than his Christian opponents. Recall how he treated Crusaders captured at Hattin on July 4, 1187,when Saladin ordered that they should all be beheaded—in accordance with the Koran—and watched, "his face joyful," while his followers slaughtered the infidels. (From 365 Ways to Drive a Liberal Crazy–Human Events.)

Liberal POV said...

Sarkazein said...

Thank you.

NewGuy said...

YW...I just left his ID up because I didnt want people to think he was actually a man of his word. He said he wouldn't post anymore if Blogger asked him not to....but, you can see what kind of integrity he has.

This is not the first post removed since he was asked to leave.

Sarkazein said...

Thank you again, I was wondering about that.

guy faulkes said...

I heard Foxx endorsed Romney.

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2011/10/17/

Johnny Rico said...

The Watauga County Courthouse employees Sheriff Deputies to man the metal detectors. Does anyone find this odd given the current finanical situation our county and country is in? The public is the enemy, right Judge Ginn? Interesting how the sheeple of Watauga County say not a peep when they are searched like convicts.

If the people are willing to accept being treated like criminals in a building they themselves pay for, Hussein Obama should have no problem garnering a second term.

Johnny Rico

johnnyrico said...

off topic, but does anyone know what happened during the October 6 meeting at Chetola sponsored by "Wild South" in which they were discussing the Grandfather Mountain Scenic Area?

Reader said...

Sark and Guy, you need to read the comments - Yahoo's story about Obama's teleprompter's stolen. Give you a laugh before you go to sleep.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/president-obama-teleprompters-stolen-123608804.html

Dog Tom said...

So Foxx endorsed Romney. Not surprising since she colluded with crooked Town of Blowing Rock elected representatives to defraud taxpayers out of 190 acres they once had to hunt on.

Johnny Rico said...

Ah hah!!! Liberal POV can't even post on the Vent Page. What a dunce!! You lemmings need to stay over on the Watch where there is no dissenting opinion.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

guy faulkes said...

Reader, I am of two minds about the teleprompters being stolen.

Yes, it is funny that a con man lost his most effective tools.

On the other hand, it is sort of like someone shot a blind man's seeing eye dog.

Sarkazein said...

THIS is Biden. A journalist asks him a question. Biden threatens the reporter like a tough guy. When the reporter doesn't back down to Tuffy , Biden turns and runs away. We have some real wimps in the top spots and the results are in.

guy faulkes said...

i guess this organization and this young man can expect some kind of payback as Biden's flunky wanted to know what news group hw was with.

Bushrod Gentry said...

I saw the VP on TV. He was concerned over the status of a bill and claimed that crime would go up if the GOP did not pass it. He seemed angry. Where was this passion when law enforcement officers along our southern border were asking and not receiving federal help? Once again we see the left cherry pick its empathy. I don't think operation "Fast & Furious" did border cities any good at all. Funny how Biden doesn't comment on that.

NewGuy said...

But doesn't anyone even consider that state and local police forces are NOT the responsibility of the federal government? Shouldn't the local and state governments decide on the staffing of their own police departments and the taxing necessary to achieve/maintain that staffing level?

Why should MY federal tax dollars pay for local police in a town or county that spends their own money on other things? They should be able to determine their own priorities and allocate their resources as they see fit. If they prefer low property taxes or if they would rather build 80 million dollar high schools instead of spending on police and fire protection, they should not expect federal tax dollars to subsidize them.

NewGuy said...

From Watauga Democrat...

"While President Barack Obama's convoy was an impressive sight on Watauga County roads Monday, just as impressive was the mass of law enforcement personnel guarding the route.

Officers had to secure about 485 sites in Caldwell County and 200 sites in Watauga County using personnel or barricades, First Sgt. Gary McClelland of the N.C. Highway Patrol said Tuesday. Troopers were also stationed in pairs every few miles along U.S. 421 from Boone to West Wilkes High School.

To cover the entire route, the Highway Patrol pulled officers from throughout the region and received help from local law enforcement, public works employees, firefighters, medics and the N.C. Department of Transportation, he said.

guy faulkes said...

Given Biden's sudden concern over crime, what do you think are the odds that he will recommend nationwide, constitutional (no permit required because it is a civil right) concealed carry legislation.

I would say none to frantic opposition.

As has been repeatedly proven, concealed carry results in less crime, or to put it another way "An armed society is a polite society."

guy faulkes said...

New Guy, you make excellent points on the topic of having to pay federally because local governments choose to spend their money on other things than police, firemen, or teachers.

Sarkazein said...

President Bush made sure Sadaam got a medical check up, three hots and and a cot, and a TRIAL.
The Peace loving Obama sets up Kadafi to be wounded, taken by the rebels, beaten up, then murdered while in custody.

Ahhhh the CHANGE. Peace happens.

Sarkazein said...

Listen to the drunken self imagined elitist abused woman who rode her husbands philandering shirt tails to power talk about Mr Cain. Keeping in mind she accepted a job from a man-child with NO experience.

guy faulkes said...

I think what Ms. Clinton fails to understnad is that the most recently hied Godfater's Pizza delivery person has made a more positive impact on this country than has she, her husband, or Obama. At least the delivery person is working for something positive instead of trying to tear down this country.

Johnny Rico said...

NewGuy,

Your post from the Democrat is important. The media helps make Americans sheeple. The article says the law enforcement presence was impressive thus having the reader believe this was a good thing. What the article, nor any article written by the fringe left, fails to allude to is the fact the public is the enemy in the eyes of law enforcement.

You and the rest of the citizens are a monstrous threat. The article fails to mention that folks were forced to stay inside some area restaurants that bordered the route for over two hours. That residents weren't allowed, under threat of arrest, anywhere near the route to catch a glimpse of the annointed one. This country is mad! The millions spent on thousands of cops to control citizens for a couple of hours in Watauga County is sickening. What is more troubling is the sheeple of the county will be much more willing now to blindly follow upcoming totalitarian orders given by the tin gods. Watch the next time we have a deep snow and a state of emergency is declared.

Your liberty is slipping away very quickly now.

NewGuy said...

Johny...I posted the Democrat article to show the massive use of local police for Obama's campaign trip and to contrast that with Biden's assertions that local police resources are overtaxed and thus violent crime is up dramatically. Of course, Biden says that unless Republicans pass Obamas new stimulous bill, rape and murder will increase!

If Biden were to be right (he isn't), then it would follow that the diversion of local police to security work for Obama would then result in more rapes and murders since those police aren't available for prevention of those crimes.

Of course the whole Biden statement has been widely debunked. His figures are disputed by the FBI and his assertions that the cause is as a result of fewer police officers is contradicted by the local police chief.

See article in Wash Post (Fact checker)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bidens-absurd-claims-about-rising-rape-and-murder-rates/2011/10/20/gIQAkq0y1L_blog.html

guy faulkes said...

My thanks to the Wolf for sending me this link in an email.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=196427

Sarkazein said...

Excellant video!

Sarkazein said...

PArdon me... Excellent ...

Mike D. said...

Great article:

Check it out, if you didn't already see it on Drudge.

Wolf's Head said...

Sark the video is from the John Birch Society. i first saw an earlier version of it 25 years ago and it has witheld the test of time as the best analysis of political power I have seen.

The OWS gang are using the tactics described exactly in the video against our country.

guy faulkes said...

Good link, Mike D. All I can say is "And Obama wept!"

Mike D. said...

Guy, I'm kind of hoping that Obama wins reelection and both Houses of Congress go Republican in 2012. It seems like that flavor of gridlock leads to not much money being spent and not too many rights being taken away. Then, in 2016, Chris Christie can take over with a greatly reduced deficit and a recovering trade balance, and we will explode with growth!

Sarkazein said...

Mike D wrote-"Guy, I'm kind of hoping that Obama wins reelection and both Houses of Congress go Republican in 2012."

I sure didn't miss that middle-of-the-road crap that got us here.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

"That middle-of-the-road crap that got us here" was the exact opposite flavor of gridlock than the one I'm describing. The one I'm describing is composed of Santa Claus at the helm and spendthrifts holding the purse strings. The flavor you are describing is composed of Ebenezer Scrooge at the helm and a crack whore writing checks. They are not at all the same thing.

My version of gridlock last occurred as Clinton vs. Gingrich, and if I'm not mistaken, it was also the last time our government ran a surplus.

Sarkazein said...

To say nothing of four more years of an inept narcissus attempting to destroy our country through his bureaucracies and Presidential orders. Yeah, that's what we need.

Mike D. said...

But Sark, he will fail!

I, for one, would rather see Obama get all his obscene spending bills rejected than to see Romney get all his obscene spending bills approved!

Sarkazein said...

And that's just a chance you'll have to take?

guy faulkes said...

I do not think so, Sark. I do not beleive Romney is electable. If he gets the nomination Obama will go back into office.

Sarkazein said...

with Mike D's vote. And others.

Mike D. said...

You're right, Sark, but there is a darned good reason for it.

guy faulkes said...

MikeD makes a point. In my opinion, there is not enough difference in Romney and Obama to matter. Both are proponents of government run health care and gun control.

Romney would be more effective in screwing us with a Republican House and Senate than Obama would be.

This is exactly what happened in the Administration of Bush the Elder. He sucessfully banned the importation of more guns than any other President and it cost him his second term when gun owners stayed home in droves because they had no one to support. This why I think Romney is not electable.

I am going to have to do some thinking on the possibility that a gridlocked Obama would be better than an effective liberal establishment Republican such as Romney.

I had not considered this.

Wolf's Head said...

Romney is un-electable.

God help us if Obama gets a 2nd term. Even if the Congress goes overwhelmingly Republican, Obama would still control ALL of the Administration and it various and nefarious departments such as the ATF, FBI, EPA, Border Patrol, Immigration, Interior etc and he could cause irreparable damage.

I see no way out for 2012 unless someone has an epiphany on the Repub side.

Sarkazein said...

Romney/Obama are miles apart. To say there would be no difference between an Obama second term and a Romney first term with a Republican legislative majority is.... how do you say...WRONG! by a long shot.

Sarkazein said...

Failed Democrat Pol Sues Critics Over Election Loss

October 24, 2011 RSS Feed Print
There's nothing quite like a politician scorned.

When voters in Ohio's 1st Congressional District threw Democrat Steve Driehaus out of office after only one term, he did not bow out gracefully. No, he decided to get even. So he did what anyone does in today's culture: he sued somebody.

[Check out the month's best political cartoons.]

Charging that its activities contributed to his defeat and thus to his "loss of livelihood," Driehaus is suing the Susan B. Anthony List, a group that supports pro-life candidates for Congress and which has been one of the leading and most effective organizations involved in the fight to cut off federal funding to Planned Parenthood.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

You are right. There would be a huge difference! Romney's initiatives would be written and approved by Congress, leading us much deeper into debt, but Obama's would be rejected.

I want Christie for President, but I cannot have that. I would consider voting for Herman Cain, but he will first have to show me that he has conviction to stand up for what he believes in the face of pressure from his own party. Conviction equals respect in my book. Every word Romney speaks sounds like it comes out of a vote gathering robot. I think Romney plus a Republican Congress would be disastrous for us all.

Sarkazein said...

As you move the goal posts to a more convenient truth... Romney and Obama are nothing alike. One is a Saul Alinskey follower and the other is a hardcore capitalist.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, I have to disagree. Romney is a liberal in conservative clothing. He is just more of the same.

Sarkazein said...

You don't believe Romney is a "hardcore capitalist"?

Mike D. said...

Sark,

Electing a "hardcore capitalist", allegiance to a political party before my country... these are thoughts that do not occupy my mind.

My allegiance is with my country.

guy faulkes said...

"You don't believe Romney is a "hardcore capitalist"?"

Not when Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare.

Sarkazein said...

I was comparing Obama to Romney. Sorry, I can't keep up with the Moving goal posts.

Guy Faulkes- Two words- State's Rights

Mike D. said...

So, Sark, fine... States' Rights. You will not likely find anyone more supportive than Mike D. (and probably Guy as well).

I would argue that a gridlocked Obama (especially one who faces a Conservative Supreme Court) is much less likely to strip states of our rights than a Romney with a majority.

Sarkazein said...

Two words- Executive Orders.
One word- Veto

Sarkazein said...

Three words- Supreme Court appointments

Sarkazein said...

Who would you say is more for State's Rights, Obama or Romney?

Sarkazein said...

SUNDAY, JULY 10, 2011

Mitt Romney on States Rights
Well, states have rights that the federal government doesn't have. Under the 10th Amendment of the Constitution, the powers of the federal government are specifically limited. The states have the rights to, for instance, mandate kids going to school, mandate auto insurance. States have certain rights that they can exercise. We can try different things in different states, find out what works and what doesn't. But the last thing you want to see is the federal government usurping the power of states. This is a federalist nation. It's unconstitutional. By the way, it's, it's also bad policy. (ABC's "Good Morning America," February 1, 2011)

-- Referring to Barack Obama's historic health care program, Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Sarkazein said...

Some are wanting to give Obama a break on Fast and Furious, Obamacare, $5 Trillion more in national debt, dividing the country into class warfare, ACORN, lies about the stimulus and its gifts of $millions to his political supporters, just to make a political point about who is a pure and sinless Conservative by rewarding Obama with a second term.... Yeah right.

Anonymous said...

I must say that it is a pleasure to read the dialog among reasonable people of differing opinions!

guy faulkes said...

It odes not matter if it is done on the state level or the Federal level, Sark. I will not support a politician that proposes such socialist venue Romney/Obamacare.

Why would a liberal Republican be likely to appoint a conservative to the Supreme Court? He is going to appoint someone that reflects his ideology. With Obama vs. Romney, we are screwed either way.

Fortunately, Mr. Cain is not only maintaining his lead, he is expanding it.

Sark, what person were you referring to about giving Obama a break on Fast and Furious? I have not heard any of the Republican running, except maybe Perry, do this.

guy faulkes said...

After rereading the posts, I realize Sark was taking about Mike D and me.

As far as I am concerned, there is no difference in Obama and Romney so The point Sark was trying to make is invalid.

Blogger, when you put up the next vent page, could you re-post the last few comments to start it. I find this discussion fascinating in that many people agree with Sark and many agree with me in not voting for either of them. So many agree with me that Romney is not electable.

Sarkazein said...

"Sark, what person were you referring to about giving Obama a break on Fast and Furious?"- Guy Faulkes

By not voting for Obama's opponent, one is helping to reward Obama with a second term. To quote MikeD, he would like to have Obama in for a second term... thus rewarding Obama for Fast and Furious and other things. So ALL those not voting for Obama's opponent are giving him a break on Fast and Furious.

Mike D. said...

But Sark,

If you focus so much on hurting someone you don't like, you may wind up creating a situation that hurts us all much more deeply. If Romney gets elected, we will almost certainly see more spending, deeper deficits, and an expansion of government programs. This is possibly the very worst thing that could happen, and it may well spell the collapse of our country. Maintaining the economic strength of our country for another century, to me, is far more important than punishing a President I don't like for allowing a gun-running sting operation to happen on his watch.

guy faulkes said...

I am not rewarding Obam when I do not vote for him just as I am not rewarding Romney or the status quote by refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils. As long as people continue to do this, we will be stuck with the "progressives" or liberal lite. We are continuing to ruin the country by a slow process.

Not me, any more.

Sarkazein said...

So far neither of you quasi Obama supporters have even come close to a convincing argument that Obama and Romney are one in the same.

"But Sark,
If you focus so much on hurting someone you don't like, you may wind up creating a situation that hurts us all much more deeply. If Romney gets elected, we will almost certainly see more spending, deeper deficits, and an expansion of government programs."- MikeD

Such is politics. One's political ego rarely gets all it wants. If you think Romney would be worse or equal to Obama, you need to check the mushrooms you are picking a little closer. Reagan was a Democrat union member, who once elected President got rid of most of my tax deductions. If Romney had a Conservative controlled Congress (both Houses), I believe he would out Conservative Reagan. If Obama is in for another term, you can forget getting rid of the current tax code, which would be part of the gridlock you so desire.
If Cain doesn't win the Primary and Romney does, I will not be taking away the ball and walking away from the game with my thumb up my ass saying,"My guy didn't win, I'm taking my ball home and I'm going to stick my head under my pillow and hold my breath 'til I turn blue." Nope, I will go to the polls and vote proudly for the candidate that won the primary. It is rapidly becoming too late for a new Conservative "Third Party".

Wolf's Head said...

". It is rapidly becoming too late for a new Conservative "Third Party". " Sark

That is why we are in trouble.

Romney is anti-gun, pro tax and pro national health care, that is enough for me to not vote for him.

Sarkazein said...

Romney has spoken out against Obama-care and says he will start dismantling it from day one, is a member of the NRA, and "the former Massachusetts governor sticks to an incremental approach (taxes). His plan would extend expiring income tax cuts, reduce investment taxes and cut the corporate tax rate. In Romney’s view, a tax overhaul is a long-term project, not an Inauguration Day imperative."

I am still supporting Mr Cain... but come on, let's get some facts and leave the exaggerations for/about the Lefties.

Sarkazein said...

"It was Governor Ronald Reagan of California who signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street." The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners.

Twenty-four years later, Reagan was still pushing gun control. "I support the Brady Bill," he said in a March 28, 1991 speech, "and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay."

guy faulkes said...

Romney will do or say anything to try to get elected. Perry made one very valid point in his interview with Bill O'Riley. He said that a person did not change his person would view over night, especially after he is 50 or 60 years old. His previous statements and actions prove his real agenda. Romney's prove everything the Wolf said is true.

The ironic thing is that Perry's observations also apply to him and disqualify him from consideration, in my opinion.

The difference with Reagan is that he had a large amount of conservative actions in his resume to prove he had changed from a liberal loon before he ran for President.

Sark, with all due respect, when I say I am not voting for Obama, then your allegation that I support him because I will also not vote for his Republican twin is ridiculous.

I do not care about party. I will not support a liberal.

Sarkazein said...

"The difference with Reagan is that he had a large amount of conservative actions in his resume to prove he had changed from a liberal loon before he ran for President."-Guy Faulkes

He supported the Brady Bill in 1991, long after he stopped being a liberal loon. He stopped law abiding citizens (all of them) from carrying loaded firearms legally. Point being, you won't find a pure Conservative out there unless he has never done anything in the past and he is a candidate with a tabula rasa where you can fill in the blanks as you wish. Since Reagan supported gun control, you might as well say he and Shummer are one in the same when it comes to gun control.

guy faulkes said...

Reagan was not perfect, but he was a long way from Schummer as you well know. This comparison does not do you justice, Sark.

In any event, Reagan is not running. (More is the pity.) If we want to compare Romney to former Presidents, he is much closer to Carter, at least socially. Not as close as he is to Obama, but much closer than he is to Reagan.

Sarkazein said...

As is the comparison of Romney/Obama.

guy faulkes said...

I do not understand your last post, Sark. Romney and Obama are running against each other. You have to compare them in order to make a choice.

You apparently think there is a significant difference in them. I do not. Maybe one of us is correct. Maybe not.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- If you can find a way to believe Obama and Romney are equally bad, based on an impure Conservative history, it shouldn't be a stretch to find Reagan as bad as Obama. Especially since Reagan disarmed all civilians in California. Even worse than disarmed, he made them carry unloaded weapons.
I'd rather be unarmed with only my Uzi tactical pen than have an unloaded 38 S&W on my hip.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

If you had the choice between Romney and Christie, which would you choose, and why?

Sarkazein said...

We don't have the choice between Romney and Christi,
Christi, to me, seems to be a little full of himself. Anyone that can carry on a press conference for 12 hours just to say why he is not running, is a bit peculiar. If it was Christie vs Obama, they are one in the same and I'd rather see Obama win a second term as a reward for Fast and Furious and to give him a chance to further divide our country.
How does that sound?

guy faulkes said...

Sark, I keep pretty current on the Second Amendment and have never heard of Reagan causing any of the things you said. Please provide links. He did support the Brady Bill so he was far from perfect. In any case , as you just said about Christy, Reagan is not running.

However, can you deny both Obama and Romney support government controlled health care and are anti gun?

Sarkazein said...

Reagan's anti-gun history"

I can tell you, Romney is not "anti-gun". He never signed a bill outlawing loaded guns.

Sarkazein said...

Did Reagan do away with Medicare and Medicaid when he was President for 8 years?

Sarkazein said...

REAGAN: There you go again [Laughter]. When I opposed Medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the Congress. I happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed. I was not opposing the principle of providing care for them. I was opposing one piece of legislation versus another.7

Mike D. said...

Sark,

"How does that sound?" Honestly, to me, it sounds to me as though your allegiance is to your political party, rather than to your country.

Sarkazein said...

MikeD- Yeah, that's because Romney is anti-American... right? And Obama is not...right?

You would rather have Obama in a second term rather than Obama... and I'm anti-American. Stay out of the middle of the road, its dangerous to your brain.

Sarkazein said...

Should read: ... rather than Romney...

Blogger said...

President Obama says "we can't wait" to take action on jobs. So, like a king, he is bypassing the democratic process and ruling by fiat.

To which Speaker Boehner retorts: "You know
what, we can’t wait. We’ve got 15 bills that have passed the House that would help job creators around our country. They’re called the Forgotten 15; they’re sitting over in the United States Senate." We can't wait for Senate Democrats to pass them

Sarkazein said...

Just about the last thing you want to do. Watch the perp at the exact moment he realizes he is in the real world.

Sarkazein said...

How many people, thanks to the mainstream media, know there are many bills related to unemployment held up by Democrat Reed? Maybe 1 out of 10,000 if that many.

Mike D. said...

"Stay out of the middle of the road, its dangerous to your brain" - Sark

"The middle of the road" does not describe my views, and you know it. My views are widely spread across the political spectrum, issue by issue. As far as I have ever been able to discern, your views all fit into one of two marketed schools of political thought. I am sure this makes you quite popular at partisan, establishment parties, but it doesn't really say 'independent thought' to me. Could you name one issue where your beliefs are not Conservative?

Sarkazein said...

Jack- I have always described myself as a libertarian with Conservative tendencies. It has nothing to do with Party. You have developed a misconception with your middle-of-the road thought process.

Sarkazein said...

What could I possibly think, In Liberalism, is a good idea?

Mike D. said...

Don't worry, Sark. Blind followers on the left treat me exactly the same way and call me exactly the same names. Most of them, however, have not called me "Jack". ;-)

Sarkazein said...

My apologies, MikeD. You just placed yourself in the-middle-of-the road.

"Don't worry, Sark. Blind followers on the left treat me exactly the same way and call me exactly the same names."

And those good Liberal ideas are......?

Mike D. said...

Sark,

I really don't think you understand at all. You think "Conservative good, Liberal bad". Leftist sheep think "Liberal good, Conservative bad". I value independent thought over blind following. You must fit people into a box, so someones whose views differ from issue to issue becomes "middle-of-the-road", even though that makes absolutely no logical sense.

You should change your name to Conservative POV, then you and Liberal POV will be able to replace yourselves with simple computer subroutines that will argue your positions for you. In the end, you and he will wind up playing intellectual tic-tac-toe ad infinitum until you realize that "the only winning move is not to play" (War Games).

Somehow, even though I am only 39 years old, I have realized that blindly following a thorough set of views that someone else has formulated for me is not the person I want to be. To do so wouldn't be me. It would be giving up my intellectual freedom to the will of someone else.

"Middle-of-the-road", politically speaking, means moderate. At risk of truly wasting my words on someone who has dedicated himself to only hearing what he wishes to hear, I will try one more time. Very few of my beliefs are what would be considered moderate, or "middle-of-the-road". Some are Right, some are Left, and some are not among the options the Left and Right offer us to choose from. They are my views.

How is it that your views fit so neatly into someone else's play book? Have you given away your freewill?

Sarkazein said...

MikeD- You are just too brilliant for the norm... is what you are wanting to say.

Again, what are the good Leftist ideas (in practice not utopian)?

Mike D. said...

Sorry, Sark,

Not playing that game. I know how that one works... I list an idea, and you reply with the programmed response. But that's my point. Your responses, your views, are perfectly aligned with someone else's program. How could that happen? Logically, mathematically, genetically, statistically, it does not make sense for most of society to follow one of two sets of prescribed views unless they have given their minds over to someone else's program.

So you see? If I answer your question and provide one liberal idea that makes sense to me, it will not be you discussing it. It will be your auto-response feature, regurgitating the answer that has been provided for you, should such a question come up.

But if you answered my question, I would not attack your response. In fact, I would praise you for your ability to think for yourself.

Right now, between you and Liberal POV, I don't see free thinkers. I see followers.

Sarkazein said...

So in all your brilliance, your answers are not programed... you are so enlightened.
In fact, you are soooo enlightened, you know exactly how others should think to be considered non-programed. Wow, I know you're impressed.