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Wednesday, November 23, 2011

VENT PAGE XXX ---- CELEBRATING OUR TURKEYS!

WHENEVER THE NUMBER OF POSTS IN A VENT PAGE MAKE IT CUMBERSOME TO NAVIGATE, A NEW VENT PAGE IS STARTED. This is number THIRTY in our series...and it is our TURKEY version - in recognition of ALL the turkeys we have known!

VENT PAGES are handy for posting of off-topic posts, rants, raves, rages, etc which might not be appropriate on other threads where adults are having serious discussions. Childish rant? Need to call another poster a name? Just feel like spouting off? Or even if you have something to say and there doesn't seem to be any other logical place to say it....THIS PAGE IS FOR YOU!

Although I have to admit I did give some thought to making this the "mountain moonshine" version...you know, vent page XXX, and the whole  XXX on the jug thing made in kind of a natural.............but, it's almost Turkey day so.Turkey Version it is...and

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE!!!!!

47 comments:

Anonymous said...

As an occasional reader of this blog, I cannot figure out why there is not more support rallying behind Jon Huntsman. I would really like to know why he is not the obvious answer to the inevitable Mitt Romney nominee, more specifically why are you all (assuming) not supporting him? 30 years ago Huntsman would have sailed through a GOP primary. The man really has it all, the proven leadership of an executive, by far more foreign policy experience of any governor, and a strong moral.

I am a young, white, 20something who cares far more about the direction of this country than I do the letter in front of a candidate’s name. I voted for Obama in 2008, and will likely do so again unless Jon Huntsman is the Nominee.

NewGuy said...

anon...Huntsman (in my opinion) is not getting the attention or the credit he deserves. He isn't getting the poll numbers, nor is he getting media attention.

I hope that all changes soon...he seems like a good candidate.

It looks to me like Mitt Romney is holding steady in the polls at around 20-25%. One byh one other candidates have risen to his level, been vetted, and then returned to the "pack". Bachman had her moment in the sun; then Perry, then Cane, and now Newt...

Maybe Huntsman will be next.
Thanks for bringing it up.

Anonymous said...

I agree. The best thing for Huntsman would be for him to get his bump, or 'moment in the sun', at roughly the same time as the New Hampshire Primary. But, in order for that to happen, someone unelectable like Bachman or Paul needs to win Iowa. If Romney takes Iowa it’s over.

Anonymous said...

He also endorsed Congressional Term limits in last nights debate and recieved zero coverage for it.

NewGuy said...

You could be right, anon...but I don't personally share your opinion as to the importance of Iowa to Huntsman. Should he place well there it would certainly give his campaign a boost in fund raising and probably boost his viablility...but the expectgations for him there are low and I dont think finishing far back in Iowa will do him any serious harm.

More importantly, in my judgement, is a strong 2d or 3rd place finish in NH. Barring a huge gaff, Romney should walk away with NH. If Huntsman finishes second....OR, if Paul finishes second and Huntsman 3rd, I think we might have a horse race!

NewGuy said...

I also keep reminding myself that, at this time four years ago, I was certain that Hillary would win the nomination for the Dems and gave Guliani good odds for the Repubs!


"Prediction is very difficult,. Especially when it involves the future!"

Louis Brandeis:

guy faulkes said...

I personally find Huntsman far to liberal to be a serious contender. If an Obama supporter likes him, it would seem that I am correct.

Anonymous said...

Good read regarding Huntsman:

http://www.redstate.com/griffinelection/2011/11/18/where-jon-huntsman-went-wrong/.

Guy, in what regards do you find Huntsman too liberal? Is it simply that he suggests working with Democrats rather than againt?

Sarkazein said...

If he's not working against Democrat leaders, what good is he? I do not vote for someone to work with Democrats. Working with Democrats, to Democrats, means doing it their way. We've seen it and heard it over and over.
Anonymous- Thanks for the warning about Huntsman. He hasn't been strong enough on his own to get noticed. I could point his daughters out in a line-up, but not him.

Sarkazein said...

Indicted for voter fraud-- There is only a 91% chance these are Democrats but the article doesn't say for sure.

NewGuy said...

I'd say it's closer to 99%...Funny how these things usually favor the party that is so opposed to voter id laws!


Also, note the interest from the feds as per Valdosta Ga news:

"After seven months of waiting to see if the federal government would be pursuing the case, on Aug. 1, Lowndes County District Attorney David Miller wrote a letter to the Georgia Attorney General’s"

Probably Eric Holder is too busy suing various states for their efforts to enforce immigration laws!

Anon1 said...

Anonymous Thanks for the RedState link on Huntsman. It says it all.

guy faulkes said...

Huntsman does not only seem to want to work with liberal Democrats, he seems to almost be one. He seems to be a proponent of big government.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/26/krauthammer-huntsman-is-a-liberals-idea-of-what-a-republican-ought-to-be/

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/06/22/jon-huntsman-mccain-on-wheels/

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/michael-moore-endorses-huntsman/2011/09/28/id/412549

I do not include him in my list of those I will not vote for because there is no danger he will be on the ticket.

guy faulkes said...

Reader said...

Okay, watched the debate. So far, I like Newt. Unless he does something I can't support, I think I'm going with him. I like all of them, agree with most of them, a few I don't. Remind me of this if I change my mind. I'm ready to support someone, who has ideas of how to fix the country I love.

November 22, 2011 10:00 PM

Reader, is Newt's support of amnesty for illegal aliens something you can support? I cannot. This is a pity because Newt was my second choice behind Cain up to this point.

Reader said...

Guy, I just don't see anything getting done to the border. Anyone can make promises before elected...I think Gingrich wants the Mexicans votes. I'm just a mother, who has too much compassion I guess.

I would love to see a Cain/Gingrich ticket and think either one of them would be a good choice. I still like Perry...Bachmann I like, but there's something not clicking with me about her. Paul is my kind of man when it comes to freedom and leaving other countries to their own problems. We cannot take on the whole world and try to change them.

Gingrich just seems so knowledgeable and has a memory I'd die for. I also like that he can take on the media. I wish there was a perfect candidate...there's not. But if you can persuade me to look at someone else, please do so. As I've always said, I'm not smart as you guys and I need help in the political arena.

Sarkazein said...

Pakistan cuts off US supply lines... Obama golfs.

guy faulkes said...

Reader, when you claim to not be smart, the response from the rest of us is to put one hand over our wallets and start sneaking for the door because we are about to be outdone. You have more common sense than almost anyone I know.

I can understand compassion, but I cannot condone rewarding someone for breaking the rule of law by putting them ahead of those trying to obey the law. My companion is for those that try to immigrate legally.

However, I do see your point. I just cannot agree with it.

Reader said...

Guy, I understand what you are saying...Gingrich today said that his friends were misunderstanding his point. He wants the ones who's been here for years...probably since Reagan's time, to be able to stay if they are good people. Does anyone know the year the most illegals have jumped the fence? I'm curious if they do it more frequently when liberals are in office, or do they do it whenever they can? I still think Gingrich wants their votes and that's why he's saying that. Getting something passed is another story.

Who are you guys narrowing it down to?

Jack said...

"Does anyone know the year the most illegals have jumped the fence? I'm curious if they do it more frequently when liberals are in office, or do they do it whenever they can?"

1990-2005
2005-2009

Looks like whenever they can. No apparent correlation.

Sarkazein said...

Jack- Reagan did it. If he had it to do all over again, he would have secured the borders first. Reagan screwed up. Ask an insider.

guy faulkes said...

"Who are you guys narrowing it down to?"

Cain is still my first choice, followed by Bauchmann. I guess i can hold my nose and vote for Newt, but not in the primary.

Sarkazein said...

Jack- On your second graph 2205-2009-- either they are all here already and those entering are actually re-entering or they knew the Democrat Congress would slow down the economy from 2006 on.

Sarkazein said...

Barney Frank is giving up his seat.

Sarkazein said...

Workers unite!

Uncle D. said...

Barney Frank is giving up his seat. Sarkazien

Praise the Lord!

Sarkazein said...

Amen Uncle D.

Anonymous said...

You should have said Barney Frank's not running for office again.

Giving up his seat is probably something he does pretty often, considering his sexual orientation.

Sarkazein said...

Anonymous- Barney Frank goes down in history, that's for sure.

Anonymous said...

From a petition circulated earlier this month at ASU protesting a speaker's Veteran's Day appearance.

"“He is a person that doesn’t necessarily fit in with the Appalachian way of acceptance, tolerance and freedom,” O’Keefe said. “We feel like him being asked to come to Appalachian was saying that those values weren’t being taken to heart.”

No irony here. As long as you accept that the "Appalachian way of acceptance, tolerance and freedom" applies only to those who agree with the petitioners!

Anonymous said...

I was intrigued to find that on the school board website they are doing town halls. I also noticed that all minutes from the summer on have been posted including Octobers. I'm assuming that it is John Welch posting since he is listed as the instructor. I hate he's on the other side because if he is the one behind this, he may be the most transparent and open politician Watauga has seen. I'm very impressed and am looking forward to when they come to my school. A+ for effort!

NewGuy said...

I expect it is John Welch. He is the ONLY one that has expressed any interest in keeping the public informed on school board issues.

I have been very disappointed with our Republican school board members and I won't be supporting any of them in the next election. I will definitely support John Welch!

I would hope that, at some point in the future, we will have a school board that is open and communicative with the citizens of Watauga County and also one that is looking for ways to run our schools more efficiently.

Unfortunately, it isn't the one we have now!

Sarkazein said...

It looks like the one campaign promise Obama will keep is his war with Pakistan.

Reader said...

I feel the same way, New Guy. I'm confused as to why they even want the job. Must be things to hide. John Welch is the only one doing what is expected of him. I applaud his efforts as well. If he decides to run again, he'll get my vote.

Blogger said...

Rasmussen: 65% Want to End Aid to Pakistan
84% Think It’s Likely Pakistan Knew Where Osama Was Hiding

Sarkazein said...

Inacurite information. If it was a Republican administration, I am guessing different terms would be used to describe these liars and their bosses.

Sarkazein said...

Bicycle Barbie off to another 17 day Hawaiian vacation

Jack said...

Not including his upcoming Christmas sabbatical, here is how Obama compares through three years....

Obama vacation days: 71
W Bush vacation days: 180
Clinton vacation days: 28
HW Bush vacation days: 120 (avg 40/yr)
Reagan vacation days: 112

So, on average, Democrat Presidents have spent 87 fewer days on vacation through three years of their first term than their Republican counterparts.

Thanks for bringing up the subject Sark.

Sarkazein said...

Some may have not noticed the economy. Is there a further away point in the USA than Hawaii from DC? Carbon footprint?

Sarkazein said...

Again Jack looks at numbers. He misses the point entirely.
This is a part of a well written article by a writer named David:
"President George W. Bush took vacations to Crawford, TX quite a bit also (he allegedly spent five months of his first year there...click). But, most (certainly not all) were working vacations. One could argue the latest Obama vacation to Brazil is a working vacation. But, the reason most are upset with Obama on this latest vacation is the timing. The Obama Administration has the worst record of timing of any I've ever seen in my life. But, you know what is amazing to me? The number of people who defend Obama's vacations. Do a google search on Obama Vacations or Obama Vacation Days. Look at the number of stories from either the AP wire services or from the White House defending him. Strangely, the stories are mostly in 2010. Very few stories are mentioned this year. According to factcheck.org, Presidents Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and W. Bush spent more vacation time in their first year than President Obama did. But, this article is from January 2010. I could not find anything for this year on vacation time.

But, this is something that is unexplainable to me insofar as Obama Vacation Days; he took three vacations after the oil spill started in the Gulf of Mexico. Again, it comes back to Obama's timing of vacations. How does it look to the people on the gulf coast when they see their President whooping it up in Hawaii or wherever, while their livelihood is drowning in oil slicks? How many vacations do you think FDR took during WWII? How many did President Bush take after WTC attacks? This country is facing more crisis's than any other in recent memory. It requires a president who sets an example for the rest of the country. President Obama is supposed to be our leader. He simply doesn't understand he is not a community organizer any longer. When most Americans are unable to take vacations, he goes to the beach to have fun with his family."

Jack said...

Yes, chide Obama for taking a Christmas vacation. Congrats Sark, you have grasped the tiniest of straws in order to make a partisan point.

Oh. And yes. Adak, Alaska.

Sarkazein said...

17 Day Christmas vacation? That was a number (17) and you missed it.

Sarkazein said...

*** December 25, 2011 (the legal public holiday for Christmas Day), falls on a Sunday. For most Federal employees, Monday, December 26, will be treated as a holiday for pay and leave purposes. (See section 3(a) of Executive order 11582, February 11, 1971.)

Sarkazein said...

Government healthcare denies man with both legs amputated a power wheel chair because the government couldn't be certain his condition is permanent.

Jack said...

"17 Day Christmas vacation?"

Oh Golly!!....Wait, two weeks? Just like past presidents? Oh, I guess it isn't a big deal after all.

Nothing but small-minded, partisan hackery.

Sarkazein said...

Ok, I get it... you don't get it.

Sarkazein said...

"Oh Golly!!....Wait, two weeks? Just like past presidents? Oh, I guess it isn't a big deal after all."- Jack

CHANGE

Sarkazein said...

i7 days... two weeks... hmmmm?