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Wednesday, January 4, 2012

VENT PAGE XXXIII - The Broken Record Edition

THE BROKEN RECORD EDITION

Whenever the number of posts on a vent page make it cumbersome to navigate, a new vent page is started. This is number THIRTY THREE in our series (but we made it 33 1/3 to qualify it as our "broken record" edition.)


VENT PAGES are handy for posting of off-topic posts, rants, raves, rages, etc which might not be appropriate on other threads where adults are having serious discussions. Childish rant? Need to call another poster a name? Just feel like spouting off? Or even if you have something to say and there doesn't seem to be any other logical place to say it....THIS PAGE IS FOR YOU

Of course there are other possibilities for the number 33...often related to the occult! A magic number in some cultures - a mystery on the back of the Rolling Rock Beer label and the "secret" club 33 at Disneyworld!

We thought that the "Broken Record" reference was most appropriate! =-)



47 comments:

Sarkazein said...

Some may not know what that black round thing is.

Anonymous said...

It's important that gun rights are supported in Blowing Rock. if you can't go, call. If you can't call, email.

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NewGuy said...

Thanks Anon!
From your Grass Roots NC link"



"The Town of Blowing Rock is proposing an ANTI SELF-DEFENSE ordinance that would prohibit concealed carry permit holders from protecting themselves and their loved ones in certain areas of its park system . These areas include picnic pavilions and restroom facilities. Posting these areas is illegal under the recently passed "Castle Doctrine" (HB650) by the N.C. State Legislature which states only playgrounds, athletic fields, swimming pools and athletic facilities may be posted. However, just because you can pass an ordinance does not mean you should. An ordinance discriminating against law abiding permit holders is not the answer. To illustrate this, insert the minority of your choice into an ordinance that prohibits them from enjoying the use of these areas.

The Town is, in effect, creating criminal empowerment zones in which a 250 pound rapist or child molester is empowered and a 100 pound mother is denied the means to protect herself and her children.

A special note of recognition needs to be added that the towns of North Wilkesboro and Hickory recently considered this issue and have chosen against any posting in their parks. "

Jack said...

No matter which side of the field you stand on this issue, you have to love the framing.

1) labeling it an "anti-self-defense ordinance". Brilliant.
2) picnic tables become "criminal empowerment zones". Sounds official.
3) The visceral image of the huge rapist versus the tiny woman. )In reality, they'd probably both be 250lbs.)
4) But the BEST part is likening not being able to carry in a picnic area to racial segregation! "insert the minority of your choice into an ordinance that prohibits them from enjoying the use of these areas."

Overall, great political framing. It's a very good piece from GRNC.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's framing. Sort of like calling the murder of little babies a "woman's right to choose".

Anonymous said...

My daughter went into the ladies room at a NC hiway rest stop. Her husband, waiting in the car, noticed two large men who saw her enter the ladies room. The men stationed themselves one outside of each of the two exit doors of the ladies room and just waited there.

Seeing this, my son in law took his 9mm from his glove box, put it in his belt and walked up to the door where my daughter was most llkely to exit. Standing there, he made eye contact with the man who was leaning against the wall near the door. He then pulled back his jacket to show his pistol.

The man immediately left and went around the side of the building to gather up his acquaintance, and they hurriedly walked to their vehicle and left the area.

Who knows what their intent was? But, I am very glad that my son in law has a concealed carry permit and that he was not prohibited from carrying in that particular public area that day!

G.I.G said...

Jack I find it very insensitive of you to imply that only 250 lb women are victims or sexual assault.

Jack said...

GIG, I made no such assertion. You inferred that only 250lb women are victims or sexual assault. So now you're just projecting.

I was commenting on the visceral image of the large man v. the tiny woman and sarcastically observing that obesity statistics would suggest that both individuals would be large.

The given image (large v. small) works. But obesity rates say the hypothetical event would look different.

G.I.G said...

Jack your words not mine. You claim it more likely a larger women is assaulted.

"3) The visceral image of the huge rapist versus the tiny woman. )In reality, they'd probably both be 250lbs.)"

Sarkazein said...

G.I.G- Jack doesn't comprehend the point NewGuy/Annoymous's Grass Root link made. He has to think of it in some kind of numbers. The only thing he could come up with is the weight thing. He's a liberal. The point Grass Root made was about an individual 100 lb woman. Jack has to think of people in groups. This is why he tried to use an average weight. Some would think it was an attempt to distract from the topic. But it is not. Liberals don't think of individuals. Their minds don't work that way.

Jack wrote- "I was commenting on the visceral image of the large man v. the tiny woman and sarcastically observing that obesity statistics ..."

guy faulkes said...

The point is that the town appears to be wanting to empower the person committing a crime over the victim by taking away the ability to carry a gun for protection.

Jack appears to be saying it is acceptable for a 100 pound man to rape a 250 pound woman.

I personally find that the analogy of inserting the minority of your choice to be very apt. Jack is the person that is playing the race card. The minority could be left handed Americans of Irish descent. The statement said nothing about race, religion, or sexual orientation. Jack inferred race as part of his liberal mantra.

I have sent an email to the town asking them to not empower criminals and will attend the meeting if I can.

Sarkazein said...

THIS PICTURE tells the story. Obama is craking wise, Inspector Cluzo is laughing nervously, and the General in the background is measuring up Obama for a cell in Leavenworth.
Obama has looted the US Treasury and is now weakening the military.

Jack said...

This strikes me as somewhat humorous:

Sark and Guy have labelled me as "liberal"...

In their minds, Liberal = Evil

Therefore, Jack = Evil

No matter what I say, they will take the opposite position and attempt to twist words. It's cute, really.

Sark, Guy, and GIG have inferred some assertions that I never made. They have also ignored the fact that I 1) didn't take a political stance on the issue (I happen to agree with the GRNC on this one), and 2) I complimented the GRNC on a good political piece.

I simply commented on a skillfully crafted, politically framed, policy piece.

Funny.

Jack said...

And Sark, it's Inspector Clouseau

guy faulkes said...

I have labeled you as liberal because youa re liberal, Jack. You worship the liberal mantra. You know very well the statements you made were ridiculous as they ignore the point of the link was that the discrepancy of force between a strong criminal and a weaker woman, old person, disabled person, or even a weaker man was the issue of reference. As a liberal, you are not evil. You are pathetic.

By the way, would you care to answer the indisputable fact that you labeled a statement as racist when it was not?

Sarkazein said...

Jack wrote- "This strikes me as somewhat humorous:

Sark and Guy have labelled me as "liberal"...

In their minds, Liberal = Evil

Therefore, Jack = Evil"

Conservatives are proud to be called Conservatives. liberals. Liberals try to deny, hide, mislead, or resent being called Liberals. Why? Because liberalism is based on lies, deceit, and denial. "Liberalism= evil"-Jack. I agree.

Sarkazein said...

"After all, Kim Jung Un (pronounced Kim's young-un?) had NO military experience whatsoever before daddy made him a four-star general in the military. This is a snot-nose twerp who has never accomplished anything in his life that would even come close to military leadership: he hasn't even so much as led a cub scout troop, coached a sports team or commanded a military platoon... ...So, setting that aside, next they make him the "beloved leader" of the country. Terrific!!!

Ooops. Oh, crap! I'm sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing here. We took a community organizer who has never worn a uniform and made him Commander-in-Chief; a guy who has never led anything more than an ACORN demonstration and made him the leader of this country. I'm sorry I brought this up, never mind."- An Email

Mike D. said...

Sark,

Just a quick heads-up. Although no one ('noone' for you) is likely to doubt the purity with which you distance yourself from all things liberal, you may wish to avoid invoking characters created by lifelong liberals to prove your points in the future.

R.I.P. Blake Edwards, July 26, 1922 - December 15, 2010

Mike D. said...

Sark,

I like the email you posted. Granted, it would be funnier if it came from someone who had the will to recognize the inconsistency, hypocrisy, and humor in his own reasoning in addition to that of his enemies, but hey, it's still pretty funny. :-)

Sarkazein said...

MikeD wrote- "Although no one ('noone' for you) is likely to doubt the purity with which you distance yourself from all things liberal, you may wish to avoid invoking characters created by lifelong liberals to prove your points in the future."

Nope, won't be one of my wishes. Lifelong, newbies, or self disguised liberals, they are all the same to me.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

Why respond if you didn't understand the comment? Your response indicates that you have no idea what I meant.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

What I mean is that by invoking the character Inspector Clouseau, you show great respect for the man who created that character and the imagination surrounding him. That man, Blake Edwards, was a lifelong liberal, so by employing imagery he created to help you demonstrate your beliefs, you are in bed with a lifelong liberal. What is next? Do you secretly work out to Richard Simmons videos? ;-)

Sarkazein said...

Oh, I get it, an attempt at humor.

Please find out, for me, if I can use Hanna-Barberra or Looney Tunes to describe the you other liberals.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

I'll wait to see if you use their work first. Then, I'll be sure to let you know. :-)

Sarkazein said...

Pretty much narrows it down to not being able to use 97% of the characters created in Hollywood.
How about Bo Derrek?

Mike D. said...

"Pretty much narrows it down to not being able to use 97% of the characters created in Hollywood." - Sark

You are so careful to restrict yourself, Sark. All that which does not fit into exactly what you want to see is liberal and evil and valueless and must be packaged in such a way that it can be dismissed without consideration. Thank you for clearly making my point for me.

Sarkazein said...

It just comes natural by now. And it's easy.

guy faulkes said...

MikeD, I do not understand why you argue about what the definition of liberal is. Sark (and probably I) have a different definition than you do. That does not make us wrong. You are equally wrong in our eyes.

Mike D. said...

Guy,

You have read my comments for years on WataugaWatch. I trust that you would not consider me a liberal, yet Sark claims that he does consider me one. Perhaps you should have a word with him?

Sarkazein said...

MikeD is in denial. This is causing conflict in his political ego. Come out of the closet MikeD and celebrate your liberalness.

Sarkazein said...

Obama is Commander-In-Chief. He is violating prisoner's rights in the Afghanistan War. WHERE! is the outcry from the scumbag liberals?
WHERE!

Mike D. said...

Sark,

Did you raise a fuss about the Abu Ghraib abuse when the Commander in Chief was a Republican? If not, why should it bother you that Democrats aren't trying to make a big issue out of this story? I know this logic makes no sense to you because in many ways, your thought process is remarkably similar to theirs. Truth and reason matter not to the red or blue devout partisan! Only party and power matter, right?

Sarkazein said...

MikeD you wrote-"Did you raise a fuss about the Abu Ghraib abuse when the Commander in Chief was a Republican?"

I didn't have to. It was on the greasy lips of every liberal on the TV screen and every liberal in front of the TV screen, as they all squealed loudly for impeachment and or indictment by the World Court of the Commander-In-Chief. If you missed that point, you are dense. I'm talking r e a l l y dense.

Sarkazein said...

I will qualify my last comment- I don't know MikeD's age. He may not be old enough to have experienced the liberal media during the Abu Graib days.

Wolf's Head said...

What was called "abuse" at Abu Graib by the left was called a Good Time at a Barney Frank party by the same people.

Mike D. said...

Sark,

You cannot control the behavior of others, only that of yourself. I am surprised that given the age difference between us, I have gained this wisdom and you have not.

Do you really mould your reaction to something like prisoner abuse only after you see how others have reacted? Do you so fear sharing a common sentiment with your enemies that you would keep your sentiments quiet for fear of having something in common with your enemies?

This again proves my point that your only motivation is party and power, not truth and reason.

Prisoner abuse is wrong, pure and simple. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now. It is sad that you are so blinded by party affiliation that you cannot admit this.

Mike D. said...

Wolf,

You just made coffee shoot out of my nose. :-)

Sarkazein said...

OK MikeD, I get it.... you don't get it.

Sarkazein said...

MikeD- Most liberals do not accept nor can they recognize the fact there is a liberal bias in the mainstream media. So for you, I will make it easy.

Abu Ghraib- President Bush CIC. Liberals frothing at the mouth 24 hours a day about prisoner abuse.

Afghanistan- Obama CIC. Deafening silence.

This has nothing to do with what I think about prisoner abuse.

Sarkazein said...

I will add to above comment- Abu Ghraib AND GITMO

Anonymous said...

Gitmo? I've been away. I thought Obama was closing Gitmo in the first year of his term?

Did I miss something?

Reader said...

Federal Regulators at it again.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WHOOPING_CRANES_GROUNDED?SITE=NYMID&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

NewGuy said...

Thank God we have these bureaucrats protecting us from activity like this!

Sarkazein said...

Anonymous- You would think GITMO was closed on Inaugural Day. The mainstream media coverage of it pretty much stopped when President Bush moved to Crawford.

For the reading impaired: This is another comment about the difference in the way the MSM covers things under Obama compared to President Bush.

Mike D. said...

Yes, yes, Sark,

I know you are keen to talk about the opinions others should be entitled to based on partisan affiliation, but how do you feel about GITMO? Should it be open for business until the War on Terror ends? Should it ever have been opened in the first place? Are conditions there too severe? Should they be much, much worse? Should the inmates be set free? Tried in military courts? Tried in domestic courts? Turned over to the Hague? Summarily executed? Tortured?

See, when you are not bound by partisan shackles, you can talk about real issues, rather than this petty "he said, she said" B.S.

Yes, the media has a liberal bias! Brilliant deduction, Watson! Way to ferret out the missing link, Sark! Now, finally, life makes sense!

Sarkazein said...

What is my opinion on prisoner treatment, you ask.
The same now as then. Why?

Sarkazein said...

MikeD- I am proud to be "partisan" if the word is used to describe a political philosophy. However, if you are using partisan to describe me as a partisan of a political Party, you would be incorrect. The last RNC (Republican National Committee not Republican National Convention Jack) card I carried was in 1984.