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Thursday, January 12, 2012

Voter ID, Voter Fraud.....NAh! That can't happen!


We are constantly told that Voter ID should not be required and that Voter Fraud is practically non existant.

29 comments:

NewGuy said...

Let's hope that NC Legislators will get Perdue's veto of the voter ID bill overturned. OR, that next year, after we elect a Republican governor, we can finally get this common sense provision passed!

Sarkazein said...

Unreal. Really, faith is lost. When faith is lost in the process, it can get ugly.

Jack said...

I'd be cautious to hitch your conservative-pony to this one. Breaking the law to prove that one can break the law? Talking Points

What's next, hold up a convenience store to prove that you can hold up a convenience store?

Sarkazein said...

Some one has to investigate it Jack. DOJ won't unless it is a minority claiming one of those old white people at the tables intimidated them.

Jack said...

James O'Keefe is being investigated. For breaking the law.

Hopefully they can stop him before he sets a house aflame...to prove that arson is possible.

Sarkazein said...

You mean - before the election.
Many don't believe some things until they see it with their own eyes. Just like the New Black Panther thug at the polling place. Was that CBS, NBC, ABC, or CNN that did that video. Was it DOJ, PPD, or FBI?

Jack said...

Sark, Is that how you justify illegal activity? You have cast aside your support of the "Rule of Law" pretty quickly for this one.

Sarkazein said...

And you cast aside the truth... often.

Sarkazein said...

Jack- This is why juries decide cases and not computers.

Jack said...

Sark, contain your rants before you pull a muscle.

This kid broke the law to prove that he can break the law. This in no way makes sense. I am in favor of an ID requirement but this stunt does nothing to help its case.

As an outspoken proponent of the "Rule of Law", I would hope that you would have the fortitude to stand up and say "he broke the law and should be punished accordingly."

There are legal avenues to prove your case. This exploit is simply criminal and should be treated as such...not defended.

Sarkazein said...

Jack- Even you don't believe a word you are writing.

Sarkazein said...

ACORN busted, Indiana Democrats under investigation for forging names on petitions, now this... Jack this has been a bad couple of years for your kind. Are you allowed to register to vote or are you green card?

Anonymous said...

Since he didn't cast any ballots,I wonder if he did anything illegal.

Sarkazein said...

Notice how Jack, after viewing the video, changed the subject to avoid the point of the video. Weird.

Jack said...

Anonymous, obtaining a ballot by fraudulent means is illegal. They didn't cast a vote, but they took ballots under false means. They broke the law.

guy faulkes said...

Jack do you feel the same about how the Obama administration broke the law in the Fast and Furious scandal?

Sarkazein said...

Jack- Do you have a dog in this fight? Can you vote in the USA?

Anonymous said...

Voter ID helps prevent illegal aliens from voting

Sarkazein said...

I'd bet the biggest anti-picture ID for voting comes from Obama's Chicago.

NewGuy said...

One thing for sure Sark, is that the opposition is almost entirely from Democrats.

Do you have any doubt as to who is most likely to benefit from fraudulent votes?

Too bad the Justice Department is too busy defending themselves on the Fast and Furious scandal and spending so much time suing various states who are trying to stem the flood of illegal immigration.

Note to Jack. Are you SURE that what O'Keefe did is illegal? I don't see any reference to him breaking the law in the voter ID case - and he claims that what he did was legal. Do you have a citation you could share with us?

If he DID break the law, then he should be prosecuted. I don't support illegal activity by him any more than I do by the Occupy protestors. But, this isn't about O'keefe. This is about how easy voter fraud is and how easy it would be to fix it by instituting picture ID requirements.

What O'Keefe did (or didn't) do, doesn't change the simple fact that voter fraud is too easy!

Jack said...

New Guy -
USC 42§1973GG–10
(emphasis mine):

(2) knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by—

(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,

One shouldn't burn homes to the ground to prove that arson is possible. In the same vein, this illegal action is deplorable. Talk about possible voter fraud all you want, but don't engage in illegal activity in an attempt to push your agenda. In doing so, O'Keefe has made it about himself, and now he is a criminal.

NewGuy said...

Jack...I don't see any evidence that he or anyone else "knowingly and willingly attempted to deprive or defraud' anyone of a fair election. If he did then let the courts decide that and let him pay the price.

As much as you would like to focus attention on O'Keefe and away from the voter ID issue, the point is made that voter fraud is easy to do and a picture ID law would make it substantially more difficult.

How about a compromise. Go ahead and put O'Keefe in jail and, at the same time, require a government issued picture ID of anyone attempting to vote. Deal?

I am glad to see you take such a strong position against violating the law in order to prove a point. Were you posting the same thing about Fast and Furious? Or did you come out against the "occupy" people who were illegally trespassing, blocking sidewalks, etc?

Were you as outraged when the militant Blacks in Philadelphia intimidated voters from entering the polling places? I don't seem to recall you posting your opposition to these "crimes".

Jack said...

Deal.

As for the other issues: I haven't seen enough information on fast/furious to create an informed opinion. Accurate info is spotty and nearly always politicized....I have no problem with peaceful protestors (there's a big difference between blocking a sidewalk and committing voter fraud)....And I don't know anything about Philadelphia.

I took an interest in O'Keefe because 1) it took place in the area in which I grew up, and 2) your post made no mention of his criminal activities.

Sarkazein said...

Soooo dishonest, yet typical of a liberal. Hasn't been able to learn enough about Fast and Furious, but has formed an iron clad legal opinion on the video after seeing a day ago for the first time. They just can't be honest. It's not in them.

Blogger said...

Anonymous asked: "Since he didn't cast any ballots,I wonder if he did anything illegal."

Did you not hear the woman say that if anyone else came in with the same name, he would not be allowed to vote? Thus, he could be depriving another person if they don't believe the other person's identification.

guy faulkes said...

If a voter I.D. card had been required, then there would have been no problem, would thy. The point has been made.

NewGuy said...

blogger...I would agree that it could have been a problem if the dead guy had come in. =o}

Sarkazein said...

Oh Boy! Jack sure changed the subject on that one. Everybody bit. Democrats are going on trial or being investigated in many parts of the country for actual voter fraud... intent to steal elections. An undermining of the election process in fact. The MSM isn't talking about it much, so a citizen goes out to show it first hand... what does the subject become? Was he double parked at the time he entered the polling station.

NewGuy said...

Voter Fraud? They keep saying we don't need voter ID's because there isn't any "evidence" of voter fraud?

Ridiculous!
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/25/trial-witness-ny-dem-officials-paid-for-votes-to-snatch-third-party-ballot-line/