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Sunday, May 20, 2012

More on Unfairness of Watauga Early Voting

Letter to Editor High Country Press

46 comments:

guy faulkes said...

Maybe it is time for the commissioners to cut county funding for the Board of Elections until this fiasco is resolved in order to treat everyone fairly.

Anonymous said...

'Second the motion, guy.

Anonymous said...

Wow Debbie I didn't know you owned a parrot. How hard was it to train Maddie to just rehash your same tired lines? Along with the repubs vendetta against ASU because GASP! they might not vote for you? HORROR!

Same as the voter ID laws, weren't you guys elected to create jobs instead of worrying about this and the scary gay people out to gectha?

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with demanding fairness and equality in our elections? Everyone should get to vote (including ASU students), everyone should vote, but on a level playing field.

Debbie said...

You will find that there are a lot of so-called "parrots" who are just finding out that these atrocities have been going on. I have received a copy of another letter from a citizen who wrote the commissioners and other officials. Isnt it sad that you want to label people who have an opinion as a "parrot"? I was talking with a whole group of so-called "parrots" the other day and we were discussing how people who lacked any logical argument resorted to name calling and insults. I guess you think Guy and the other anons are "parrots" too?

guy faulkes said...

Ms. Greene, Anonymous 5:34 has drunk so much liberal Kool Aide that he / she cannot comprehend more than one person disagreeing with him / her. Nonymouse does not even beleive that unfairness in voting due to the location and number of polls has been an issue for years.

It should not take withholding county funding to force equality in voting upon the Board of Elections, but it looks like it may do so.

Blogger said...

Count me as one of Debbie's parrots when it comes to this subject of the early voting.

Anonymous said...

They are definitely not "parrots".

They are actually the orginators of many ideas and the researchers and investigators exposing the corruption, dishonesty, favoritism, and just plain theft that goes on in this county and state.

ITCM said...

Yep, when Republicans are beat or don't want to answer the questions, they lock the thread to avoid it. As jr would say, "typical conservative sheep".

Anonymous said...

Sorry Debbie, early voting is not an atrocity. Once again you are trying to escalate an issue with you drama. Open a history book and study what atrocities really are. Wanna cracker Polly?

Sarkazein said...

ITCM wrote- "Yep, when Republicans are beat or don't want to answer the questions, they lock the thread to avoid it."

Just a guess, as a thread has never been "locked" before, is that it automatically ended as it reached its max comments. If you base a "win" on that one, I'd hate to see what you call a loss.

Anonymous said...

Yes, you like your advantages over others, don't you? Teachers' pet. All your profs and instructors have to do is tell you, useful idiots, a bunch of lies, and you swallow these lies, hook, line, nnd sinker. You are gullible fish, or should I say 'lemmings'?

And anyone who wants an even field, you scream more lies. Oh, you meanies, you don't want the poor, the very young and old to vote! That's the oldest Bolsheviki trick in the book.

That's your version of voting and making decisions. You want lopsided opportunities and generous time periods that gives your agenda and your little useful idiots unfair advantages over other voters or other viewpoints.

Because, truthfully, without these obvious advantages, you just can't win.

Sarkazein said...

Florida investigation reveals 180,000 non-citizens may be registered to vote

Saturday, May 12th at 3:44PM EDT

Florida officials have discovered that 180,000 registered voters may be non-citizens.

A CBS4/Miami Herald analysis of information supplied by Miami-Dade shows a large number of the potential non-citizens voters cast ballots in the past — including the 2000 election, when the presidency was decided by just over 500 votes.

guy faulkes said...

Three early voting polls open in a liberal leaning area, within walking distance of each other, all within the Boone city limits,all served by a public transportation system not readily available out in the county, one being located in a place college students pass multiple times a day and where one can register and vote on the same day while no other polls are even open is a even field only in the mind of a liberal loon.

If you want an even field, pass a statewide law that in order for any poll to be open all have to be open.

Of course the liberals do not want equality in anything. They want special treatment for those they decide should have it. Equality is abhorrent for them, unless they get to decide those that are more equal than others.

In other words no equality is allowed; only special privilege for their side.

I would like to know why the thread was locked. I suspect the reason was the libs were using their usual tactic of changing the subject and making the same argument over and over when they could not counter the rebuttals. They fall short in the department of meaning what they say and saying what they mean.

Johnny Rico said...

ICTM,
I was hoping that thread would've stayed open. Whenever liberal socialist sheep (you) begin a post using emotional rants, curse words, and other salutations, and not facts, I know I've won. I just wanted to see you idiots agonizing a little longer in your own worthlessness. Saved by the bell I guess.

Anyway, unfair voting practices in Watauga County seek to disenfranchise rural residents. ASU students had several days and multiple poling places to vote. Rural residents had 1 day and 1 poling place to vote. Yet, like you do for illegal aliens, you try and support liberal led voting activities that sway the election to your favor.

Conservatives understand that liberal lemmings will do anything, including unfair and illegal activities, to win. We know that's your modus operandi. Conservatives work to change these unfair practices to level the playing field. As usual, the fringe left whines and cries when called on their unreasonalbleness. LOL!!

Your ole pal

Claire Lesman

Bill Conneley

Johnny Rico

Happily Married said...

Typical - You scream about equality here but cannot even fathom it for marriage rights. Given the counties vast acreage and the costs of the early voting polls, exactly how would you provide for a balance? I guarantee you that somebody in the county, at the end of the day, will be in a position to scream "unfair". Everyone in the county has a car to get around (understand when I say everyone I mean 98% of the population. I am sure there will be someone who makes a snarky comment about the miniscule exception - I would rather solve the problems of the 98% than spend countless hours squabbling over the exception to the rule). ASU students might - or might not have a car. I understand why the number of early polling locations on campus seems unfair. I have not heard of a balanced solution. The marriage issue is also unfair - and I have yet to hear of a balanced solution from the conservative side. Maybe that is what our problem is. We are so divided that we are unable to see fair and balanced any longer - from either side. Due to the cost of polling, I suggest only having the courthouse as the only early voting location would that satisfy you hardliners?

guy faulkes said...

The easiest way to provide for a balance to to close all polls except on election day. The next easiest way is to use the money spent to keep these three polls open for many days to instead open all the polls early for one day. The man hours at the polls should come close to equaling out. Unfortunately the Board of Election will probably not do either as it appears to be a partisan organization.

Once again HM is trying to change the subject. This is a very sad ploy.

ITCM said...

JR, when have I ever used curse words on this blog? You keep rehashing the same comeback over and over instead of answering my questions.

GF, I would agree that opening all of the polls only for election day would be the fair and easiest way to solve this issue. No need to close any voting areas, just prevent anyone from early voting until the actual date. I don't see a problem with that.

Anonymous said...

Some of the comments above are perfect examples of this false bravado by the left...everyone becoming a hero from behind the keyboard. But in all seriousness, a Voter ID law just makes common sense. When it comes to this, you have to ask yourself, "why not?"

Happily Married said...

Firstly - I am not trying to change the subject and even finished with a suggestion on the subject at hand. Pointing out hypocrisy is just that pointing out hypocrisy - not changing the subject. A voter ID law makes sense if you provide NC ID for free to everyone (including duplicates) and set up a program to assist those less than capable to get an ID. You should not have to pay to vote and ironically, the people with the most difficulty getting ids that currently don't have them will be the oldest and poorest (the conservative bread and butter). If guy can vote for his reasons EVERBODY should be able to vote if they have nothing more than a pulse. Do we want to put money into polling places or id's?

Deborah Greene said...

I would like to give credit to the many who came before me and exposed the unfair voting practices initiated by the liberal controlled BOE. And, as to the so-calked "parrots", if that refers to someone who learned about this from someone else and opined on the issue, then the record shows that I am a "parrot". I simply checked out the situation and found it to be true. And, it has come to my attention that my letter of complaint to BOE followed that of 4 other so-called "parrots".

The new registrations are in. This speaks for itself. The one stop favored which areas of Watauga County?

Bald MTN -1
Beaver Dam- 5
Blowing Rick-10
Blue Ridge - 17
Boone 1 - 22
Boone 2 - 155
Boone 3- 206
Brushy Fork- 45
Cove Creek- 11
Elk- 2
Laurel Creek - 4
Meat Camp- 8
New River 1- 46
New River 2- 30
New River 3- 34
Shawneehaw-1
Stoney Fork- 10
Total - 617

guy faulkes said...

A voter ID law does not solve the discrepancy in the ability to register and vote problem with early voting being conducted only at these three polls, although it is undeniable it will cut down other types of voter fraud.

I personally feel we would be better off if the polls were only open on election day and that voter ID was required. Everyone would then be treated in an identical manner.

If one can get out to vote, then there is no reason for them not to be able to get out to get a voter ID card. The county could certainly arrange a method for providing those unable to get out to get a card cheaper than the suspense of keeping these three polls open for many days. If it could not, then the money would at least be used for a legitimate purpose instead of discrimination against those voters that live outside the Boone city limits.

Thanks for the idea,HM, although we may have to change N.C.election law statewide to implement it..

uy faulkes said...

As this thread is about making voting equatable for all citizens of Watauga county, I must warn you this post is off topic. It concerns a link to a teacher in North Carolina being suspended for shouting at her student that he could be arrested for criticizing Obama.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/21/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama/#ixzz1vWAhGhjr

I apologist for the off topic post. We need a new vent page to discuss things like this and the end run the legislature may be trying to do to get around the court decision that made the ban on carrying a gun outside your home during a declared emergency unconstitutional.

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=7gs74beab&v=001BqdIkAG71q7o2UW4ZbRR3onZzTr1LhsY2bJmLK4uLOTLe4YSBwJFgs7muwjG48CVMpEK3z1B9SJoRhuhfRLg5uJpM-zQnxTpyYIyb-HgcQ0%3D

Sarkazein said...

Not to worry, the union will protect this open minded liberal

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV,

Why do liberal lemming sheep like you make it hard for citizens in rural areas to vote, yet give students at ASU many voting options? Does your hypocrisy ever reasonate within your pea brain?

And please enlighten us with the news channel you think everyone should watch? What make you right on Fox News? Are you some kind of expert, or just another hypocritical liberal threatened by a view different from yours? LOL!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS You just hate it when I get involved don't you!!!

Sarkazein said...

Mayor Cory Booker caught off the plantation. Now being flogged by his Obama masters as he begs for forgiveness.

Happily Married said...

JR - I have already pointed out your hypocrisy. Equal treatment for all as long as you are not gay! So Mr. Pot, it occurs to me that instead of ever coming on here to make substantive comments, you just bash, antagonize and name call. Liberals are not threatened by different views - we are intolerant of others forcing their views on all citizens. Given that the majority of residents residing in the county have some form of transportation (otherwise, how do they function) does it make sense to provide more accessibility to those who might not have some form of transportation (i.e. students at ASU). Funny how no one has addressed my previous comments on where to spend money - polls or ids - maybe I have stumped your smug little but. Please note that my snide nature is only in response to your snide comments. If you ever just stopped the name calling and made a substantive comment only, my response would be in a similar vein. We will see who wants to keep being an instigator on this site - rather than a debater or problem solver.

guy faulkes said...

HM, nothing in Rico's posts say anything about gays. The change the subject ploy is not going to work.

Will you please address the issue of the unfairness in early voting in Watauga County? Do you think the current situation is fair? If so, why?

Happily Married said...

Guy - reading is fundamental. I am not trying to change the subject. JR is a hypocrite for screaming for equality about voting but screw equality when it comes to marriage. That being said, I have pointed out the following:
1) only "fair" thing to do is to limit early voting to one central site - if you open any county polls, someone in the county is going to be able to scream unfair, juts because of how vast an acreage we have.
2) If you insist on ID I believe they should be free and programs set up to help the incapable of attaining them
I then asked the question is it better to spend money on polling locations or IDs?
3) I pointed out that the polling locations are most likely set up considering everyone in the county must have some means of transportation in order to survive and that a lot of ASU students do not have means of transportation. I am also in favor of making things easier for ASU students in order to instill in them the importance of voting and the habit of voting. Why not concentrate your time and resources to bolstering the ASU young republicans rather than limiting voting?

guy faulkes said...

I am not limiting anything by wanting equatable voting opportunities for everyone, HM. ASU students can vote on election day, just as can everyone else.

You seem unable to answer the questions to whether you think the current situation is fair and if you do why.

Why do you want special privilege for ASU students? Trying to "instill in them the importance of voting and the habit of voting " is pretty lame. If they do not already have this, why are they voting in the first place? Do they not care enough to vote on election day?

Nothing changes the fact if one poll is open, then they all should be.

This thread is not about gay marriage. If we get another vent page maybe we can revisit that issue. I liked responding to your amusing posts.

Happily Married said...

Guy,

I am able to answer any question - I believe the current situation is as fair as any other suggestions being made. The only situation that might be more fair is if only the courthouse were open for early voting. Someone will feel disfranchised regardless of the end solution. The University is the perfect place to instill the value of voting and to encourage it so that the students become good citizens. This is not about how they vote as much as the environment to encourage voting. The University is a place of new experiences and learning and students tend to influence each other in that respect. I would encourage the same at the high school except the audience is limited to seniors. As stated before, concentrate your efforts on college republicans and not disenfranchising voters in any way.

Anonymous said...

The majority of this thread (and Greene in particular) all sounds like sour grapes to me.

Inquiring Mind said...

"Cowards"? Liberal POV, cowards are the liberals who are afraid to have an election without a deviant scheme. And, it is the liberals who are the fear mongering, small-minded, vengeful, petty, useful idiots who seek to discriminate against and disenfranchise the rural citizens by digging deep into their dirty little bags of tricks, brewing up their Kool-Aide concoctions, and spewing their hate and bigotry of all of those who refuse to drink their filthy liberal concoctions.

guy faulkes said...

The point , HM, does not really have anything to do with students. As you point out there are conservative students. It has to do with people living in one small area having an advantage when it comes to casting a vote over every one else in the county. This is why no poll should be open unless all of them are.

I like your idea of taking the funding used for opening polls early and instead using it for the cost involved with voter ID cards (if any). It should be done statewide as it would facilitate the elimination of voter fraud, make access to voting equal for everyone and would probably also result in financial savings.

Deborah Greene said...

Most rural people ate working between 8 am and 5 pm is when do they squeeze that voting in. If you read my letter to the BOE I recommend one stop extended hours for it to be meaningful. The ASU student center one stop opened at 10 am and ckised at 5 pm. And, that was a public poll without any parking set aside. Blatant one stop for pedestrian traffic. Both the courthouse snd Boone Pilice department are surrounded by student housing. There was a tremendous amount if four traffic at the courthouse and there was an AppalCart pickup point at both the courthouse and Boone Police Department.

The antics of the liberals undermine the integrity of voting and everyone loses when the liberals abuse the system.

Johnny Rico said...

The liberals have disenfranchised rural voters. Treated them as 2nd Class citizens once again. And liberal socialist sheep pov and Happily Dumb support this type of unfairness. Amazing and arrogant.

Anything to sway the vote gets the ok from liberals. From Black Panther intimidation to voter fraud, whatever a liberal can do to put a communist in office they will.

Conservatives on the other hand, simply want fair and equitable treatment for all voters. And the liberals somehow have a problem with this.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

guy faulkes said...

Once again, this blog leads with pertinent issues. House Democrats are proposing to increase the unfairness in access to voting.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/goout.asp?u=http://cnsnews.com/news/article/house-democrats-propose-making-colleges-register-students-same-day-voting

Anonymous said...

Inquiring Mind, You have made it clear before your Deborah Greene. Why is it you need to post under different monikers in the same thread ?

ITCM said...

It's her "secret" identity! Shhhh....

guy faulkes said...

Moe meaning less posts from our liberal friends. They apparently have nothing to say on topic.

Johnny Rico said...

Young Voters,

liberal socialist sheep pov said:

"Democrats work to make the world a better place and move society forward with education, justice, equal rights for ALL"

Really? If that's so then how come students can't find a job, owe thousands in student loans, and have no future? Yes, class, your right. It's because liberals like pov have taken your education as a bargaining chip for political gain. pov wants college to cost a lot or else he would classify colleges as corporations profiting from the poor people. But they don't. Instead pov secretly smiles as your tuition rises sky high. They smile as illegal aliens take jobs college students once did. They rejoice when you come out of school owing a cool hundred grand.

Those bad ole conservatives that work to give you jobs after college by preventing unions from driving companies overseas (pov loves unions)are just terrible aren't they. Those darned conservatives who try to deport illegal aliens who take your jobs are just not seeing the light are they?

When your paying your college loans with a part time, minimum wage job, thank pov - his policies and politics have destroyed YOUR living wage.

As for rights for all - how come pov doesn't support inner city African Americans owning guns? Is it because he doesn't trust them due to skin color. After all, whitey in the suburbs are ok with guns. Conservatives trust blacks with guns, yet pov (notice lower case) says they are racist. Who is the real racist here class? LOL!!

Class is over for now, but remember conservatives are the only ones out there fighting for your rights. LOL

Your best pal

Conservative Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Does the liberal socialist pov have anything to say? LOL!! What about Matt, I take crazy meds or happily dumb. Where are you idiots? Tough bunch of posts to answer aren't they?

LOL

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Uh oh! Another thread the liberal socialists don't want to touch. LOL!! pov, care to make a smart comment or two? I wouldn't want to either if I were you.

Bottom line. Rural voters are disenfranchised by liberals. Their voting opportunities are far less than what students get. Liberals support this. Typical for liberals.

Watauga County Commissioners. Are you folks going to do something about this or sit there and do nothing at all? DO SOMETHING!!! With the exception of hero Vince Gable, the rest of you slugs are RINOs. Equal voting locations for rural voters!!!!!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Sarkazein said...

Way to go liberal Liberal do-gooders. Keep your support up for welfare and illegal aliens and reap the result.

guy faulkes said...

Thank you for the link, Sark. It is very interesting. How many illegal aliens vote, do you suppose?

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- If the registered illegals won't vote themselves, the unions/DNC will find pinch-voters for them. No photo ID of course.