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Thursday, June 21, 2012

Teachers to get pay raise; keep tenure....

According to the NC house and Senate reconciled budget bill which is scheduled for vote today, teachers and other state employees will receive a 1.2% pay raise. The House bill had proposed a $250.00 bonus in lieu of this raise but the reconciliation bill has gone with the pay increase - the first in four years. The house proposal to eliminate teacher tenure and replace it with short term contracts is also missing from the reconciled version.

Presumably, if this bill passes as expected . (and is not vetoed by Governor Perdue) then Watauga county will also amend it's budget to provide for equivalent pay increases for those teachers whose salaries are paid by the county.


16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is this a surprise? Teachers fight very hard to keep form being held accountable for their performance when it comes to keeping their jobs.

Ending tenure and approving the voucher system would do more to improve education than any other ideas I have heard of.

Anonymous said...

But teachers won't vote on this budget. Our representatives will. Between this and the reduction of gun rights we have found Raleigh is full of RINOs.

NewGuy said...

The budget bill has been ratified as amended and has been sent to the governor for signature. It is not known whether or not she will veto, sign, or just allow the bill to become law without her signature. She has 10 days to sign or veto.

Of course the teachers NCAE are complaining that the bill doesn't do enough for education - (read teachers and teachers unions) in spite of the pay increases in the bill.

I understand that county funded teacher positions will likely receive the same pay raise - only from county funds.

Our Republican county commissioners have done a good job on holding down the costs of county government and holding taxes level! I read today where Avery county will be raising property taxes by about 10% - Watauga has balanced the budget without having to do that.

Perhaps Watauga commissioners can take a look at reducing the "county supplement" to teachers. If it is not practical to do so for those already on the payroll, then what's wrong with eliminating - or at least reducing - that supplement for new hires from now on?

Anonymous said...

This raise is $45 a month for me before taxes. This will not even pay for the increase in my insurance. New guy you could not be more wrong. As far as tenure, I am fine with getting rid of it but to only do one year contracts is ridiclous. If you want better teachers then teachers need respect and pay equal to what we do. Also, Watauga is missing out on good teachers because they can go to other counties where the cost of living is less and the supplement is more. FYI I had to put my sons medicine on my credit card because I didn't have enough left in the bank to pay for it and my awesome insurance that I supposedly get doesn't cover it. A nice thank you to someone who works to educate our children. And before you say "I hope you are enjoying taking your summer off" I am working this summer just save up enough money to continue to pay for childcare when school starts.

Mike D. said...

Why stop at one year? Why not make all teachers renew their contracts every month, or every day? That way, a tremendous number of government jobs could be created to process those teachers' work authorizations.

It will require human resource positions to process their contracts, legal positions to check their eligibility and licensure, administrators to interview them, IT professionals to connect them with the software and web based course content, registration workers to assign them to class schedules, building superintendents to assign office space and classrooms to them, parking and traffic officers to validate their permits, office workers to run background checks, lab workers to check them for drug use, and so on.

What a fantastic idea!

I thought it was supposed to be the Saul Alinskys of the world who were trying to sabotage our society and bring America to her knees. Seriously, WTF are you guys doing?

Sometimes, when people get behind a plan and start patting each other on the back too vigorously, their vision blurs, and they become what they are supposed to loathe.

Mike D. said...

If you keep going down this road, taking away people's access to public utilities and public education, how many people do you think are going to follow you? Five or six, maybe?

guy faulkes said...

How is taking away tenure so that teachers performance is the criteria by which they keep their jobs or instigating the voucher system that forces schools to improve through competition taking away public education? Anonymous is correct. Both would improve all education, including the public option.

NewGuy said...

What is the argument here? The teachers still have their tenure. The one year contract was discussed (along with other alternatives) but, in the end, nothing changed. Teachers received a pay raise that they wish was bigger, anonymous says he/she is going to gross an additional $45.oo a month and that we could get "better teachers" with more money which would seem to indicate that the teachers we have currently are somehow lacking.

Anonymous said...

Mike D.

Just curious.....do you have "tenure" or a contract which guarantees you continued employment?

Do you know of people in similar jobs in the private sector that have "contracts" ?

Most people I know are working with no contract and no tenure. The world seems to function ok for them.

Anonymous said...

What is the argument here? The teachers still have their tenure.

The argument is they shouldn't have it.

Anonymous said...

Why do all you guys hate teachers?

guy faulkes said...

We do not hate teachers. We believe in performance being the criteria by which anyone in any job keeps that job or advances in it. We beleive competition as with the voucher system would improve schools.

How do you get hating teachers out of that?

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulks- Anonymous is a standard liberal. If you don't like Obama's socialism you are a bigot, if you don't think women should be in combat you are a sexist, if you don't think people of the same sex should marry you are a homophobe, if you love the US Flag you are a right wing nationalist, if you believe in your Right to Bare Arms you are a gun-nut, if you don't think teachers should get a free ride you are a teacherhater.

Anonymous said...

"Sark" your self analysis post is the most accurate self description i have seen here ever.

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- Hard to for me to tell whether I am insulted or complimented because your comment makes no sense.

guy faulkes said...

I am at a loss as to what Anonymous meant also.

The purpose of a communication is to communicate. That post failed the test.