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Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Trolls

An Anon sent this thoughtful article on trolls.  However, his troll is not my troll.
Trolls

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think that "anon" was sending you a "self portrait".

Mike D. said...

You know, I often wonder if Rico and I actually do know each other in real life. As I talk to people around town, I wonder if I am sometimes talking to POV, or Guy, or Wolf.

My personal policy is not to discuss religion or politics when I am at work, to be absolutely respectful of others' right to believe and worship as they choose, even when they do not always afford me the same respect.

But if you are my friend outside work, I do talk politics if I know that politics interest you, and I am not at all afraid to banter and debate (Just ask my Facebook friends if you don't believe me).

To me, Johnny Rico is not a troll, and neither am I. I suspect that if we ever met, we might become really good friends. It wouldn't matter to me that he is wrong and I am right. ;-)

The truth is that all of us, those who participate in these forums, are interested in political debate. As such, we are willing participants, and we should not have to fear really offending each other. Now, if I were to walk up to some unsuspecting, sweet person where I work, and start ranting about Obama or Soucek or MSNBC anchors or Monsanto, it would be totally unprofessional because that person has not expressed an interest in my political debate hobby.

But you guys? You have invited me into your lives, and you've tolerated, even embraced me for years! You are stuck with me and my views, and I consider you all friends.

Now, the anonymous posters? They are the real trolls.

Wolf's Head said...

Doubt you know me Mike D, I rarely go into town for anything.

Guy however, I've know for years and is like a brother to me, as is Bushrod Gentry.

Rico I've met and had dinner with and is a very intelligent and capable man, as well as being a Patriot.

Anonymous said...

I am still continualy amused how some posters here feel a self given superiority by choosing a username. Until proof of identity is required to post anyone here is Anon,

What is to prevent anyone from posting one post here as a bib and the next as a conserv, then the next as a libertarian? All of those posts can be made as any name you choose,

USS Rodger Young said...

Mike D,

The term "Troll" is a petty term conjured up by liberal socialist sheep and then applied to those who disagree with liberal sheep. Like all liberals, they seek to stereotype, divide, and promote racism. Therefore, if they call me a troll, then I'm guilty as charged. As a matter of fact, I'm a troll of the highest order.

Isn't trolling around looking to point out the fallacies of liberalism a good thing? Not if your a liberal on the recieving end of USS R.Y. I guess!!!!

Yes, Mike, we would probably be good friends if we met. I am very easy to get along with. I also remember a couple years back you and I agreed pretty heavily on some environmental issues. American Chestnut hybrids, sustainable farming, and a return to community hydro-electric dams are some of the topics we covered.

Mike, we may indeed know each other in real life. That would be intersting.

Rodger Young

Anonymous said...

Here is a reason i am so proud of NC this goes along perfectly with why I voted for the marriage amendment. Whats right is right i do not care how many laws say it is not.

http://jezebel.com/5919562/black-man-kicked-out-of-racist-bar-cops-dont-help-but-social-media-does

Happily Married said...

So Anon,

You are saying it is right that the black guy got kicked out then - despite the number of laws that says it is wrong?

Anonymous said...

I am sorry Happy, I meant the post in Sarcasam. N.C. makes me more and more anxious to leave this state every week.
I was against the marriage amendment, and I joined the Facebook group to protest this bar.
I hope it goes broke asap.

NC just continues to show the world it self as a backwards redneck bible thumping state. One that can not move in to the 20Th century let alone the 21st.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we could chip in and buy you a ticket to San Francisco.

Sarkazein said...

Happy- This the Anonymous who poses as a disgruntled Republican. The Marriage amendment has him in such a flit he plans to leave the Party... now the state.

guy faulkes said...

In my opinion this anonymous is a liberal troll trying to stir up trouble.

I am the disgruntled Republican that left the party over Romney.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- After a year of Romney and a Republican controlled Congress you will be begging to be allowed back in to the good graces of the Republican Party. It will cost ya.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- That Anonymouse posses as a disgruntled Republican. He has never voted for a Republican ever. He/she has never been or even thought of being a Republican.

guy faulkes said...

You are dreaming , Sark. I am afraid you will be joining me in disdain for Romney.

Sarkazein said...

Happy and A'mouse- Jezebel seems to have a race-baiting agenda. The editors are probably self-loathing white liberals... just a guess.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- It will have to take me more than a year though. It will take more than a year to get the smile off my face when Barry is permanently transported back to his million dollar Tony Rezco house in Chicago.

Anonymous said...

Who would have guessed it? Sark defending a racists bar. Was not "Sark" who does not even live in NC one of the most vocal supporters of the marriage amendment? Sarcasm intended.

If I post for you the links to all the local media reporting on this behavior in many bars in Raleigh, would that change your mind that there is a racism problem there "Sark" ?

Anonymous said...

Who would have guessed it? Sark defending a racists bar. Was not "Sark" who does not even live in NC one of the most vocal supporters of the marriage amendment? Sarcasm intended.

If I post for you the links to all the local media reporting on this behavior in many bars in Raleigh, would that change your mind that there is a racism problem there "Sark" ?

Anonymous said...

To the Anon looking to send me to San Fransico,

I will happily set up a pay pal donation site if your serious. As soon as enough to move and sustain me for 6 months is donated while i get re-established there i will be gone never to post here again.

If one dollar more then necessary is donated i will put in writing that it will be donated to the N.A.A.C.P.

Care to make the 1st donation ? I would hate to see somebody challenge you to put your money where your mouth is .

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- You liberals are too easy. I see you proudly display your race baiting DNA. HERE IS THE OTHER STORY I linked to while reading your link on Jezebel.
My comment does not defend the bar and their bigotry if any. My comment was about Jezebel. FYI- bigotry does not only happen in NC. It is nationwide and exists in all races.
Certainly you have read of false claims of bigotry. They appear often in the news. Many, when the claim is first made, attract the likes of Jessie Jackass and Al Sharpton and a varied assortment of weak minded liberals. Then when the story is found to be false, you and others like you slither back under your rock. Result... the diminishing of real acts of bigotry and an increased lack of sensitivity to bigotry. This is just another area where liberalism has unintended outcomes.
Scroll down the list next to your linked Jesesbel article and see how many race stories are in there.
Mine was just a guess that Jezebel is a liberal rag. Did I guess right?

Anonymous said...

"Sark" you posted no link in your reply above you must be off your meds again. You defend bigotry at any turn it is plain to see.

If jezabel was the most left leaning web site on earth what does that have to do with NC demonstrating again and again the bigotry it has written in to its constitution?

I am sure if up to you would repeal civil rights as well i am sure.

Anonymous said...

"Sark" are all these stories about the racisim at the bar in Raliegh cases of lefty white guilt ?

http://www.yelp.com/biz/downtown-sports-bar-and-grill-raleigh

http://philipchristman.com/2012/06/18/a-friend-of-mine-gets-booted-out-of-downtown-sports-bar-raleigh-nc-for-being-black-because-this-is-1960-apparently/

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=628490

http://www.newraleigh.com/article/downtown-sports-bar-and-grill-on-glenwood-south-accused-of-racism/

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/racism?before=1340062519

http://www.sodahead.com/living/kicked-out-of-a-sport-pub-because-of-your-culture-outrageous/question-2739895/

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/race-and-ethnicity

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- Click on the words "HERE IS THE OTHER STORY" in my comment where you say there is no link. Don't just make the sound with your tongue, use the button on the mouse. The words appear either in blue or light gray depending on which page you are on.

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- Also, in my comment, I wrote of false claims of bigotry. Bad service in a bar or restaurant is experienced by all. I can remember getting poor service in a bar in Virginia while being in uniform during the Vietnam War. Did they hate white people or uniformed baby killers or were they just liberals? Who knows.
Bad service in a bar... bigotry maybe maybe not.

Anonymous said...

"Sark" your loosing it you posted that link in the second reply to me not your first as you claim .

Maybe in your world time goes backwards so you can get back to when wife beating and segregation were common and accepted and gays were to be kept in closets.

Anonymous said...

And "Sark" the story is not about bad service in a bar. It is about being thrown out of a bar due to color as all the back up posts on the face book page and stories show about that bar.

Try and deflect as you may the story is about racism and bigotry in NC not bad service.

Anonymous said...

"Sark" this is your first reply to my post

Sarkazein said...
Happy and A'mouse- Jezebel seems to have a race-baiting agenda. The editors are probably self-loathing white liberals... just a guess.

Can you show me the link in that post you refer to in your next ?

Sarkazein said...

"Sark" your loosing it you posted that link in the second reply to me not your first as you claim .

You are or you're, not "your". Your comment was right after my comment with the link. If I am "losing it" what do you call that?

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse wrote- "Can you show me the link in that post you refer to in your next ?"

Go back and review, you are not making any sense.

Sarkazein said...

4:45 My comment with link to self-loathing liberals.

5:28 (comes after 4:45) you claim that I posted no link in above comment (earlier comments appear "above" later comments)

Anonymous said...

"Sark" you refer to [posts out of order to defend your mistake. It is ok put on your big boy panties and admit it.

I am human and make them. You seem to consider yourself incapable of that.

Back to the point the article is about racism and bigotry in NC not poor service how do you defend your "poor service" meaning being physically thrown out of a place comment?

Is this a story on poor service ? http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=8709925

Anonymous said...

"Sark" i guess all the replies here are also cases or bad service not a bigoted policy at that bar,

http://philipchristman.com/2012/06/18/a-friend-of-mine-gets-booted-out-of-downtown-sports-bar-raleigh-nc-for-being-black-because-this-is-1960-apparently/

Anonymous said...

Sark made no mistake regarding the link, which is obvious to anyone who reads this thread from top to bottom in order. To tell him to "put on his big boy panties and admit it" is needlessly insulting. Perhaps you should do the same.

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:05 i will give it to you. So how about the topic of my post that "Sark" is claiming is just bad service. Physicly removing someone from a bar due to their color? I have yet to hear him refute that he claimed it as bad service.
I think i presented enough verification as it being much more serious then that. Unless all of that is just lefty white guilt ?

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse wrote- "Anon 8:05 i will give it to you."

Is that an admission... hard to tell.

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- From your own link--"The attorney for the Downtown Sports Bar and Grill said they do not discriminate on the basis of race and the incident over the weekend had nothing to do with Wall being black.

He said Wall was asked to leave when he became loud and disruptive.

The attorney also said the bar is a private club and membership is required. He said only members and guests are allowed inside in accordance with ABC Commission regulations".

Like I said before, it may or may not have been bigotry.

Anonymous said...

"Sark" i give up you win . It is obvious you will always choose to defend bigotry at any chance.

You take the word of the bar owner over the word of dozens of other patrons and people saying how it happened to them there also.

You win enjoy your hate filled world. I hope someday you are subjected to the same hate you preach and defend.

I have to ask why does a person who claims to be from TX. who does not have any vested interest in the politics of N.C. so vigorously defend bigotry and racism here ?

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- Part of Obama's legacy is a more racially divided country. Not because Obama is Black, as a majority of people including Whites voted for him, but it is because of his calls of racism where there was no racism.
Many of your kind said to anyone who believes Obama is a divisive socialist and hurting the country that because they believe that they are racists. Sharpton or one of the other race baiters said the word "socialist" is code for Black. Many of your kind use the term bigot so loosely it cheapens the term and hurts the struggle against bigotry.

Sarkazein said...

A'mous wrote- "You take the word of the bar owner over the word of dozens of other patrons and people saying how it happened to them there also. "


Can you say "class action"?

I've seen both, real bigotry (from all races) and, now-a-days, people feeling they must be victims and take everything as bigotry or sexism or dissing.

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse wrote- "I have to ask why does a person who claims to be from TX. who does not have any vested interest in the politics of N.C. so vigorously defend bigotry and racism here ?"

Why do you have to ask? Would you like me to spot you a few points on the next thread so you don't get beaten so soundly by an out-a-stater?

Anonymous said...

"Sark i do not know what your ranting has ot do with my question but it is ok. I see you have subscribed to the Johhny Whacko school or debate keep ranting long enough and the other side will give up.

If you care to answer why a so called Texan is so vested in making sure bigotry and racism are kept alive and well in NC i would be happy to continue, if not you and Whacko make a great couple and i wish you all the best together.

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- The only prejudice in this thread has been yours. An accusation is made by a Black person in a bar, the accusation is denied by the bar owners, and your prejudice kicks in. You then STRONGLY believe, not only that the bar staff is lilly white, but that they are bigots and that they lie.
It is you who is prejudice... you prove it in your words. I wrote that it might have been bigotry and that it might not have been. Open your mind a little. Don't be so quick to judge others and to assume your nouveau stereotypes.

Sarkazein said...

A'mouse- Why are you so prejudice against people from out-of-state? Have you ever been out-of-state?
This may be why you think bigotry only exists in NC.
Try to get out more.. expand your horizons. Texas blogs are open to you at anytime. Keep the name Anonymous though, it will be harder for others to keep track of your many defeats.

Anonymous said...

Why are people in Watauga county commenting on something about a bar in Raleigh?

And, anon you should have pointed out that Sark has also commented on the Treyvor Martin case in Florida! He just sticks his nose in anywhere!

Next thing you know he will have something to say about Arizona immigration or California liberals.

We should all be limited here to only posting about things in our own area. Maybe just in our own neighborhoods.

guy faulkes said...

So, you are not interested int the Zimmerman/Martin case because it happened in Florida, Anonymous? If so just ignore any reference to it as many of us are interested across the nation.

guy faulkes said...

My apologies , Anonymous, on reflection I recognize your irony. That is what I get for trying to hurry through a post. My bad.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I was just trying to use exaggeration and sarcasm to show that the position being taken by anonymous was just idiotic.

Apparently I failed.

Sarkazein said...

REPRESENT!. Obama's invited guests at the WH flip off former Presidents. Obama is probably snorting a line and giggling as he watches or maybe he's only toking up with official White House ZigZag papers.

Sarkazein said...

No Anonymous, it was great sarcasm. But that is where a screen name helps.