This blog originally founded by Blogger who holds a theological degree and a doctorate in Counseling Psychology. Taught Psychology for 32 years and is now Professor Emeritus. Is a board-certified psychologist and was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award in his profession. Ministered as a chaplain, and pastored Baptist and Episcopal churches. Publications cover the integration of psychology and theology. Served in the Army, the Merchant Marines and the Peace Corps.

Friday, August 24, 2012

A word about trolling.....

GEEZE, If 96 percent of my posts were removed, I would probably figure I wasn't welcome here and would move on to another blog.

Or, I would try to figure out why my posts and LPOV posts were being removed, but nobody elses? Could it be that when I kept attacking other posters without ever posting anything on topic, that drew attention to me? And that, when I was asked to "move on" and to at least include some of the subject matter in the post and not just name calling and repetitive nagging of the same poster over and over, I refused to do so? And, could it be when I started insulting the administrators, and told them that they couldnt keep me off, that I would just change ISP addresses and keep posting, that they took that as a challenge? Or maybe, when I started a competing blog and then came here and posted spam over and over again trying to draw attention away from this blog and on to mine, that they didn't think they had to tolerate that? And when I started acting more and more like POV and posting the same cut and paste WHY CENSOR ten or twenty times in a row that MAYBE the blog admin thought that was probably not something that was raising the level of discussion here?

Funny how there have only been two people who had their posts removed repetitively. And, neither because of the political content of their posts....but for the trolling, the ad hominem attacks with never an attempt to rebut or discuss the issue at hand.....

School is back in session and it's political silly season. I suppose we can expect to see an increase in those whose purpose in life is to be as aggravating as possible - but we do have the means to deal with it when it gets out of hand.

And, sorry trollers...we aren't going to debate it with you.


108 comments:

matt said...

So is this legitimate trolling or forceful trolling?


It seems to me, from what I understand from bloggers that’s really rare, If it’s a legitimate trolling, the blog has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the troll, and not attacking the blog.

Blogger said...

Thank you so very much New Guy.
This post is greatly appreciated.

NewGuy said...

Matt..I'm not understanding your point.

Keep in mind that we have a couple of issues that don't involve "trolling" as we call it...

1. We have a spam filter that occassionally hits a false positive and takes a post off the board and holds it in a spam folder for review. 90% of the time, it is true spam (viagra ads, web site spamming, etc) but occassionally it will grab a legitimate post. I think it had one of Guy Foulkes posts today. When blogger and I check that folder and find a post like that, we move it back to the blog. I found 2 or 3one day from Happily Married and I moved them back but I did see where she had posted a couple times accusing us of "censorship"....

Secondly, we try to avoid having to defend any libel/slander accusations that might come along because someone has started posting "hate mail" about an individual in the community. We ask that you don't criticize private citizens (those not in the public eye) by name. I don' recall having a problem with this but we have had an occassion or two where blogger and I had to have a discussion about a post. I don't recall having to remove one tho. I do recall one time when a post was made purporting to be from someone else...an individual known to many in this town. Blogger and I discussed it and felt that it was a "fraud"....not actually from the individual it was purported to be from, and we removed it.

I can think of one instance where I removed a post for the language it contained. We try to keep it PG rated ..maybe we aren't always consistant, but we think we do a pretty good job of keeping the worst of it off of here.

Now..Troll posts? Our classic troll is LPOV who, for years, attacked every conservative post that went up with his diatribe about republicans, conservatives done know math, a whole list of insults which he still repeats today. WHen he asked if we wanted him to not post here anymore, we agreed and he said he wouldnt. But, his will power is as weak as his mind and he has been unable to prevent himself from continuing to look slobber his repetitive slurs all over our nice clean blog! We don't technically "censor" his posts - we just delete them without reading.

Now, occassionally we will pick up another individual who doesn't really want to participate in discussions here - just wants to be as disruptive as possible either for idealogical reasons or because of a case of arrested deelopment, These are the kinds of people that show up at political rallys and shout insults at the invited speakers. For these types, we suggest Boone Topix, or Yahoo Chat.

Now Matt, you have been involved in a controversy or two here.....as has Happily Married, some of the regular posters from Watauga Watch and others who, from time to time drop in and argue a liberal point. Or at least argue against a conservative one. To my knowledge, Neither you, H>Married, the Watauga Watch visitors or anyone else who has come to a thread and made an ON TOPIC argument against the conservative position there has ever been deleted.


NewGuy said...

Jack....who used to post here and is POSSIBLY back again, has long been one of the most annoying of our regular posters. But, he is welcome here - neither Blogger nor I have agreed with him on more than 1% of his posts; he is strongly liberal and opposed to almost everything we stand for here...AND he is pretty good at attacking our points and making his own...(well, KINDA good at least)...Yet, I think Jack will tell you, he has been insulted, demeaned, ridiculed and chastised but has never been "CENSORED".

Blogger initiated this blog some ears ago. I am fortunate enough to be his junior partner here and we do try to run a blog FOR CONSERVATIVES yes, but one where other viewpoints can be heard. We must be doing something right!

Technorati....the people who rate these things...rate A Watauga Conservative HIGHER than 98.5% of the blogs in the USA! We don't want this to be a blog where it's nothing more than people insulting each other with never any attempt at discussion or content.

Higher than 98.5% of ALL US BLOGS! Of course we arent in a league with Daily Caller, Drudge, Huffington Post, NYTIMES and all the other big newspaper blogs,but when you get past all the nationally known blogs, we are sitting pretty high up~!I'd say that blogger deserves a lot of credit for getting this one as highly credited as it is!

NewGuy said...

So,,,best ways to keep your posts active:
1. Don't be LPOV
2. Stay on topic - if you want to post off topic, we have the Vent Pages especially for that.
3. arguing with other posters is fine....as is criticism ....but when you have NOTHING to say about the topic and your posting is entirely meant as attacks on another poster, reconsider.

and, finally...."anonymous" posters, especially those who come to insult and belittle, are probably not tolerated as well as posters who have established some name recognition. Pick a nick name and use it...let us get to know you! When we have "anon" posters ganging up on one another - such as appears in the GOP GRAND OPENING thread, it just looks like a schizophrenic arguing with himself!

Mike D. said...

How civilized. :-)

Liberal POV,

This is what the Occupy Wall Street Communists lack, and why we will always win. Americans respect civility and sportsmanship. We even have penalties in our favorite sport for "unsportsmanlike conduct". Really, think about it. The society you live in... would you rather have it designed by the vicious Che Guevara style thugs who run unions and occupy downtown metropolitan parks, serving their power-hungry needs with whatever implements of violence they can find, or these guys, patient, tolerant, respectful, civil, gracious?

Notice, by the way, that conversation and debate flow freely here, with upwards of a hundred or more comments in each thread, while virtually no one ever participates on WataugaWatch anymore.

You could learn a thing or two about human evolution and advancement here.

Opoib said...

Newguy does this mean if i post on topic even if it is not inline with fox news talking points i will not be censored ?

Opoib said...

Newguy, You did not like my posts and told me to start a blog of my own. I took your advice and did just that. I did not spam this blog with hundreds of posts about it.

I might have sent in a post about it 2 times that you deleted each time. I did link my screen name to it as many users here have a screen name that links to their profiles or web sites as well.

You say one thing then do another, you say to start my own i did and i invited everyone to be able to post there censor free.

You decided it was not a good idea to let readers here decide for them selves if they wanted to look at that blog.

Opoib said...

Hey Newguy, i hate to pick a point with you, well really i do not so here it is .

You brag about 100 post threads. if you subtract Johnny whats her name this week from those threads the post count will drop by 50% or more.

Just a note from a reader. Now you can delete my post. You call that not censoring but if you delete the whole post or just words in it you didn't like would the result not be the same.

I hope this one doesn't count as off topic.

Anonymous said...

Last Newguy, post from me tonight. If your going to start a thread with a quote from one of my posts maybe you should not have deleted my original post you qouted.

If anyone reads your thread and sees the qoute you start with and can not see what it was qouted from, it is a bit confusing. Just one persons opinion in Boone

guy faulkes said...

Maybe you should quit trolling, Opoib/LPOV. You might be able to stay on the thread.

At least your posts on this thread were on topic, if inaccurate.

New Guy, the thing that makes this blog so good is the differences of opinion that are expressed, both conservative vs. liberal and conservative vs. conservative. Notice I did not say liberal vs. liberal because they all beleive the talking points they have been told and agree with them. Nothing is more boring than the mental masturbation posted on the Watch.

Anonymous said...

Thanks opiob for providing us with current examples of troll posts! Posting with your name and also as "anonymous" was also a nice touch and helps to confirm your troll status!

Johnny Rico said...

Matt,

You, as usual, make no sense whatsoever. Who was "attacked"? If you don't have anything relevant to say, then do us a favor and keep your large pie hole shut. Did I make my point in a black and white, clear, fashion? Good.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal socialist sheep pov said:

"if you subtract Johnny whats her name this week from those threads the post count will drop by 50% or more."

Still far more posts here than on Watauga Watch. Some of those posts go unanswered, ever. As for you and me, well, I'm still undefeated on this blog, and no liberal socialist sheep (you) will ever come close to touching me. You represent the typical stupidity from the left. Tell you what, why not go back to your troll blog and think about some other ways to use my hard earned taxpayer money to support yourself. LOL!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Opoib said...

Guy, you can call me LPOV if you like, but if you knew what name i previously posted under here as you would change your tune. I had many many debates with LPOV here. Yet I would still not censor him for any reason so that only one POV was allowed to post.

NewGuy said...

Opie...I am going to try to answer your posts in the order you posted them, then - perhaps - we can move on?

Your 10:25 PM...You were never "censored" for the political views of your posts. Fox news or not. You were, after I attempted many times to get you to understand that we weren't going to debate LPOV's access to the site with you, nor were we going to tolerate your numerous, repetitive posts in which you never once advocated a postion but instead posted nothing but attacks on other posters. When you continued, we simply deleted your later posts without consideration of their content.

If you want to contribute to the blog with your opinions on the topics being discussed, you are welcome. If your intent is to harass, disrupt, insult other posters and continue trollish behavior, then all your posts will be deleted regardless of content. This includes the "anonymous" troll posts you made on the Watauga GOP Opening thread.....

Personally, I hope you will stay and contribute, but if you want to act like a troll, we'll tread you like one. You decide.

NewGuy said...

Your 10:29 PM post.... Somehow, somewwhere you seem to have gotten the impression that, since we suggested you start your own blog, that gave you license to spam us.
You didn't post "about 2 times", you posted under your Opie ID 5, 6 or 7 times AND you posted several other times under "anonymous" suggesting that you had "found" a new blog that we might be interested in.

In addition, you even made a post on your blog asking your readers to come here and spam for you! Of course, since you don't have any readers, it had no impact - but we aren't going to let you use this site to advertise yours.

Hopefully, you are aware that spamming us - or other websites - is a violation of the terms of service with your host.

Now, let me make this clear....suggesting that you start your own blog where you can flame each other to your hearts content does NOT mean that we will advertise your blog for you. We have, and will, remove spam posts as we see fit.



NewGuy said...

Your 10:37 pm post. I don't believe I have ever mentioned the number of comments on any thread? Where did you come up with that?



What I DID say, was that THIS blog, "A Watauga Conservative" is rated higher than 98.5% of all blogs in the US.

No brag, just fact.

NewGuy said...

Your post of 10:41PM, (which you claim to be from "anonymous")

I didn't start my post with any quote and I doubt that anyone other than yourself had any problem understanding my point or knowing what I was talking about.

I believe my post speaks for itself. I didn't "quote" anybody.




NewGuy said...

Your 11:25AM post.

You have made the point several times that you wouldn't "censor" LPOV.

OK, you've made your point. We aren't going to debate it with you.

Move on!



Opoib said...

Newguy, Never once have i advocated for LPOV. His issue with you is between you and him. Your speaking for me and i do not appreciate it and will correct you when you do.

My screen name here is Opoib not "Opie" i do not address you in a disregardful manner by changing your screen name.

Opoib said...

Newguy, my post on the other blog about this site says nothing about spamming this site.

It was an invitation to readers here and at the watch and anywhere on the web to contribute.

I have not amended it or censored it an anyway please "quote" here where it says on that blog to spam this one ? Please i truly ask you to back up your accusation.

"Here i will make it easy on you I copied the entire post word for word no censoring.

If anyone from there happens to read this or wants to post here you are welcomed.

If you would like to post at wataugarepubs a link to this site it is appreciated.

We welcome almost any topic and hope to have a discussion on many topics civily.

I have personaly tried to let the readers at wataugarepubs know of this site, but unfortunately i am one of the censored on wataugarepubs.

I was asked at wataugarepubs to start my own and when i tried to let the readers there know about it again censorship.

So I say welcome to readers of any other blog to this one."

Where in that is "spamming" of wataugarepubs encouraged or asked for ?


I am starting to feel sad for you as it seems your only joy is to see how many posts you can censor here.

Wolf's Head said...

Might I suggest this for you troll hunters out there?

http://www.trollhunterfilm.com/

Good way to brush up on your Norwegian.

Wolf's Head said...

By the way, it's interesting how shining the light on our internet Trolls such as LPOV has much the same effect as in the film.

They crack up from within.

NewGuy said...

Opoib
From your post...
If you would like to post at wataugarepubs a link to this site it is appreciated.


Now, would you care to show us the post where you say I was "bragging"

"You brag about 100 post threads. if you subtract Johnny whats her name this week from those threads the post count will drop by 50% or more. "


(and,,,by the way, her name is Johnny Rico)
Or can you point out the "quote" you allege that I quoted in my opening post?

THEN, can we move on?

guy faulkes said...

Is Opoib admitting he finds it difficult to debate Rico?

That comment is hilarious.

matt said...

Johnny and newguy,

All I did was use Senator Aiken's now famous "rape" comments and sub in the word trolling and blog.

I am not sure what made less sense, my words or his.

NewGuy said...

Ahhhh! Now I get it Matt. It had gone right over my head!

Opoib said...

Newguy i wouold point out where you qouted the line in your opening to this thread but you have already censored that post.

Johnny Rico can go by what ever name she chooses. The name does not change my opinion of her.If i like her or not i still would not censor her unless she posted a public nae of someone who did not want it posted or used profanity.

You are correct you did not make the 100 post thread it was a different member of the Mag 7.

That you personally did not say it doesn't change the fact that Johnny Rico on most days amounts to a very significant amount of the total posts here. Some days more then 50%

NewGuy said...



Nope. No "censoring", no editing, no changes. Just the original opening post exactly as I first posted it.

guy faulkes said...

Opoib has outed himself. He previously said that seven posters were in control of this blog when posting as LPOV.

I still wonder who he thinks these posters are given that we all frequently disagree with each other, sometimes with great passion. Blogger and New Guy are in control of the blog.

I think Opoib/LPOV is afraid of Rico. Rico has little patience with trolls and frequently b!@#h slaps them while using logic they cannot oppose effectively. If O/LPOV is not afraid, he certainly is jealous.

Anonymous said...

Rico must have said something to hurt his feelings.

Opoib said...

Guy Faulkes, sadly again your wrong. I said that seven posters make up the vast majority of posts here not that they are in control of the blog.

The controlling censors are NewGuy and Blogger to be best of my knowledge.

I have never posted as LPOV I have posted under a different sceen name here, one that was somewhat respected at one time.

If Newguy or Bloogger want to check the IP records that Newguy brags about being able to use to censor, then they could reveal what name i have used in the past.

As far as being afraid of Rico? I do not give her enough credibility to take anything she says as anything but ranting. I rarely read her posts.

If and when i did read a rant of hers and would ask a question or make a point the result to myself or anyone who engages her was always more name calling, or slandering of dead relatives of the replying poster is about all i see from her.

If you consider name calling telling people their parents were crack addicts and whores is winning a debate, or making a point, or even bitch slapping someone intellectually please go ahead.

On that we will never agree.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal socialist sheep said:

"That you personally did not say it doesn't change the fact that Johnny Rico on most days amounts to a very significant amount of the total posts here. Some days more then 50%"

And here we have the quintessential liberal - worrying about what others are doing and not about himself. How about exercise some personal responsibility and take responsibility for being a true and total dolt. LOL!!

I don't worry about how many times you post, or how stupid your elementary posts are, or even if you chewed lead paint chips as a child (that would explain a lot though), so how about no worrying about others and taking care of yourself for once.

Typical liberal.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Here's a good one by Oploplop,

"I have posted under a different sceen name here, one that was somewhat respected at one time."

Liar. Like a plopping sound we hear in commodes across the country, you have not clue about what or when you posted. Too much acid perhaps? LOL!!

Tell you what. Let's have a debate on something. You name the topic. It really doesn't matter to me as I will give it to you either way. LOL!!

Your ole pal

Sarah Brady

Johnny Rico

PS Have you seen the video entitled "No Guns for Negros"? LOL!!!

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico, As much as I know better i will reply to this staement,

""I have posted under a different sceen name here, one that was somewhat respected at one time.
Liar. Like a plopping sound we hear in commodes across the country, you have not clue about what or when you posted. Too much acid perhaps?""

Please prove to us all how you know what i have or have not done, with out the IP records that only administrators of this blog have access to ?

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"If you consider name calling telling people their parents were crack addicts and whores is winning a debate"

So you do indeed read my posts. Can't keep your eyes off the can you! LOL!! What a lying dolt.

I didn't call your mom an addict or a whore. I simply asked if you were left alone to chew paint lead paint chips at the Super 8 Motel while your mom was helping Deshun score smack by turning tricks. (Well, this MIGHT fit the definition of a whore). I only asked this in deference to your typical ranting posts not grounded in reality whatsoever. Although I could probably be a mind reader, I refrained from that, only guessing at what your personal nightmare was leading you to be the current mess you are.

After processing several real world scenarios, the above one was the one I felt had the highest percentage chance of occuring. Not that it did, but something must've caused the aberration we see in you today. LOL!!

So tell us ObloPLOP!, what was the nightmare scenario that caused you to become a non productive member of society who looks to productive members (me/conservatives) to take care of you cradle to grave? Well, we're waiting.......


LOL. This ought to be interesting by the idiot who does, but doesn't, read my entrancing posts. Dolt.

Your dearest ole pal ever,

Johnny Rico

ObloPLOP!, are we getting a bit peeved yet?

Opoib said...

Before the grammar police get their sirens out. I made i typo in my reply to Johnny Rico the word "staement" should be statement.

Johnny Rico said...

Blogger and New Guy,

I believe OploPLOP!'s problem is me. He seems to have a problem with my prolific truth posts. Perhpaps you should direct him to talk over his problems with me. I am an excellant listener and will do my best to help the idiot...er....good man though his obviously numerous problems.

Just a thought. As a good conservative, I seek solutions, and ObloPLOP! may be able to benefit from my unique inquisitional skills. Have cure, will travel.

Johnny Rico

Samantha Steigher

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico, please do not flatter your self on my account. I do not take anything you write more seriously then that of a angry child who did not get their way.

You are not even close to being an important enough member of the oxygen using public on the planet for you to be able to peeve me.

Please tell me how you have access to the IP records of posters on this site ?

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"Before the grammar police get their sirens out. I made i typo in my reply to Johnny Rico the word "staement" should be statement"

Quit wasting words on a meaningless subject you idiot. We already know you're a moron. We expect stupid typos like this from you. No big deal. We don't care about your typos.

Now that I have your attention for the next 2 seconds, can I help you work through your problems. Lets have a good heart to heart discussion and I will try and coax out all those demons that torture you daily. How about it sir? I'm here to help you. All you have to do is open yourself to me.

A much caring friend

Johnny Rico

PS Your posting at least 50% of the posts on this thread. LOL!

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!,

Please don't take the "PS" in my last post to be an isult. It was just an observation. I don't want to chill our talking session in any way. You need to be comfortable in talking with me. Tell you what, I'm going to fix myself a good ole glass of chocolate milk and why don't you do the same.

With some nutritious milk inside of you, perhaps you'll feel like opening a bit to me. I really like to listen and am here to help you. Although I cannot prescribe any drugs, I feel life is a drug and if I can impart that type of drug to you, we will get somewhere. Only, here is somewhere if you know what I mean. Open up OploPLOP!.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS You're getting sleeeeeepppyyyy

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"please do not flatter your self on my account"

I didn't, I'm here to help.

"Please tell me how you have access to the IP records of posters on this site ?"

I told you I can read minds. I can reach into your mind and read it sir - if I wanted to. I don't really care who people are. We are all citizens of the universe, so an IP address is meaningless to me. I see only beauty in the world (which is full of liberals) and an IP address is small fry.

You are responding to my request to help you. What do you want to talk about first my friend.......

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!,

I feel you getting a bit distant. Come back to me sir. In a surreal way, imagine laying you head on my spacious breast and just talking about anything that comes to your mind. You need to feel comfortable in relesing your innermost thoughts, fears and pleasure.

Let's start with your thoughts. What is the happiest thought you've had today?

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!,

Have you fixed that glass of comfy chocolate milk yet. Mine's right here on the floating carpet beside me.

Anonymous said...


OP You are getting as boring and predictable as lpov!

Anonymous said...

Rico, you are wasting your time. He doesn't read your posts, remember?

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!,

I have almost finished my glass of Chocolate Milk. What is your favorite kind of chocolate for use in a product of this kind? Neslte Quick or Hershey Chocolate in the tin can perhaps? I like the Hershey product, however I would like to melt real milk Chocolate and add it to the milk sometime. At any rate, do you have one of those milk moustaches right now? I want to hear from you. Let's talk about some things.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Anonymous,

He says he doesn't read them, but he can't keep his beady little bifocal eyes from them.

Johnny Rico said...

Blogger and New Guy,

I tried my best to help ObloPLOP!, but he has turned inwards to himself once again. Funny how even a mental case doesn't want to engage Johnny Rico. Such a waste...such a waste......

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! was quite prolific until a few moments ago. Wonder what happened.

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico, thatnks for the offer but there is not enough beer in Boone to make me want to spend any personal time with you.

I am sure some of the foot fetish readers here will be happy to take you up on your offer.

In the future you might have a better chance of finding companionship on one of the fetish sites online that better fits your needs and desires, then here at this blog.

I admit that today i have read your posts that were directed at me as a lark .

It reminded me that was a foolish endeavor at best.

If i do not sit here with baited foot fetish breath like some of your admirers, do not take it as a personal slight even if it is.

It is just me making a living and doing what ever i please now go ahead and rant away. Opoib.

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico, how did you gain access to the IP address of posters here ?

Blogger said...

Opoib, You wrote: “the IP records that only administrators of this blog have access to ?” First, if I have access to the IP records, I don’t know that. Second, and even if I found out I did, I would not look them up. Everyone’s anonymity is important to me and vital to the success of this blog. Finally, and even if I found out I had access to the IP records, I am not nerdy enough to know how to look them up.

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"Johnny Rico, thatnks for the offer but there is not enough beer in Boone to make me want to spend any personal time with you"

Why OploPLOP!, that hurts. I only want to spend professional time, not personal, with you to help you through a few issues. It was simply an offer; no need to get defensive (always the first sign of a problem) or personal about it. My offer stands permanently to listen to your needs, wants, desires and comments anytime you want to. If you decide not to use me, then seek help from someone qualified. And thank you for reading my posts.

Then you said:

"In the future you might have a better chance of finding companionship on one of the fetish sites"

Your so enmeshed in your own world that you see someone trying to help you as a fetish of some sort. Mmmmmmm....the psychosis is much deeper than I originally imagined. Not to worry though ole chap, I'll still be able to help you if you'd like. Help comes to those who help themselves you know.

Then:

"I admit that today i have read your posts that were directed at me as a lark".

No, nothing was directed as a lark. I genuinely want to help you. Take your cue from the chocolate milk episode. We start talking in a neutral atmosphere on a subject completely benign. Then we work from there. So do you like Hershey chocolate or Nestle Quick for your chocolate milk. Let's just start there, ok. I think online help will be thereauputic for you and will show a bonding of the human spirit. ObloPLOP!, open up just a bit, and I will give of myself to help you. All it takes is stepping off the cliff (not the same cliff that lemmings use). You need to start trusting in the fellow man (or woman).

Again, you say:

"Johnny Rico, how did you gain access to the IP address of posters here ?"

OploPLOP!, I already IP addressed this with you (pun intended). For the second time, I have the ability to bend the space/time continum in certain situations. Tell you what, have a good cold glass of chocolate milk and think of a good topic for us to discuss.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Anonymous said...

opobi Maybe the internet isn't for you?

Johnny Rico said...

Johnny Rico to OploPLOP!, Johnny Rico to OploPLOLP!, come in OploPLOP!

Nobody said...

OPOIB,
I think I might have a pretty good idea about your previous screenname here, but will not publicize my guess. If I am correct, I will say it is a little sad that you've "gone away" and seem to now be at odds with the other posters here.

Johnny Rico said...

Everyone lay off OploPLOP!, he is trying to reach for help. I'm trying to reach him, and you folks are making him feel bad. All you bad, bad conservatives pipe down and let me help OploPLOP!

OploPLOP, I'm here to help. I'll keep the boogeymen away for awhile whilst we talk. I want to hear from you, and quite frankly you have me a bit worried now. What I would like to do is start a discourse between us that gets to the root of the problem. Similar to group sessions like AA or Narcotics Anonymous, we need to be open and share our ideas, opinions and small talk. The only difference will be the group which will be limited to you and I. After awhile, the others on this blog may be invited to join in, but only if they can be civil.

In the meantime, let's talk OploPLOP!. How about starting it off with something like what kind of Pizza you like or your favorite exercise. Or perhaps a favorite book.

Opoib said...

Blogger if you are not capable of checking the IP records or posters here, then how can Johnny Rico say who has posted under what pseudonym ?

P.S. NewGuy claims to be able to use them for censorship purposes.

G.I.G said...

Nobody if you want to say who you think i posted as before feel free. you can post that here or at the blog that clicking on my name links to.

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!, don't worry about Blogger, New Guy or IP addresses. I want to use my skills to help you. Let it go and come with me. We may float on the soft clouds of friendship. Tell you what, I'll start this off.

I recently read a book entitled "The Hunger Games" by Suzanne Collins. I originally bought this book because I think we need more strong female role models, and I ended up enjoying it very much. Have you read it?

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico you called me a liar for saying I posted under a different name here in the past.

If you can not substantiate your claim then the liar is you not I.

Please explain how you have proof that I only have posted on this blog as Opoib.

Reader said...

Good gracious what a thread!

GIG, I wondered if it was you. Those small i's in your sentences, I noticed when you used to post with GIG. You seem to be more of a libertarian than republican. There are not a lot of differences between the two parties, except libertarians seem to lean toward not interferrng with anything in their lives or others. Did I happen to hit the nail on the head? I figured with the screen name GIG, you must be into computers too. I sometimes agreed with your comments but you became angry when Amendment One came about...and I don't understand why people get so angry when they don't agree. We all know that saying, "opinions are like ********, we all have one". I was attacked by JR a long time ago...of course, Sark and Honest Debate came to my defense and I appreciated it. I know what I believe in and that's all that matters. I sure do miss Honest Debate's comments and wish he'd start posting again. He said he might before the election...HD, I'm waiting.

Johnny Rico said...

Reader said:

"I was attacked by JR a long time ago...of course, Sark and Honest Debate came to my defense and I appreciated it"

So now it's an "attack". Lions, and tigers and bears...OH MY!!! Reader, just what exactly did I "attack" you on? Whatever it was, the outcome must have stuck in your subconscious which means I more than likely beat the daylights out of you on the subject at hand. Care to debate me on something?

Immigration, gun control, economics? Tell you what, why did hussein obama call Bank of America Stadium, "Panther Stadium". Can you think of a reason for that? LOL!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

guy faulkes said...

I think Opoib might be Gig (which stands for Greed is good), but the fact remains LPOV made comments about seven major posters controlling this site, and Opoib called them the Mag Seven. Could it be a coincidence? Maybe, but I think not. Also, GIG used to make a point and back it up, unlike Opoib or LPOV.

On the other hand, both Gig and Opoib are more articulate than any of the LPOV's except for occasionally LPOV3.

One also has to wonder why the change from his original posting name. Did he say or do something under that name of which he is ashamed? Was it just that he promised not to com back to the site?

If he would make legitimate posts of his opinions and back them up, he would be welcome.

In any case, a troll is a troll is a troll. Trolls should stay under their brides and let the adults have a discussion.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal socialist sheep pov (notice lower case) said:

"you should be ashamed of your own comments"

Ummm, which comments are we supposed to be ashamed of. Speaking of being ashamed, when you tried to call Jared Laughtner (Gifford's shooter) a Tea Party Republican, only to find out he as a fellow fringe left trogyldyte, before the gun even cooled, did you feel pretty ashamed? You must have because when I called you out on it, you quit posting (thankfully) for a good month.

Stings don't it

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS And what again are we to be ashamed of?

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"Please explain how you have proof that I only have posted on this blog as Opoib."

Sir, you wanted to know how I know everyone's IP address and now you want me to provide proof that I know them. It is not important how I know every soul's IP address.

What is important is your status. I want to care for you as a friend, as an opponet, and as a citizen of this country. So, lets talk in a kind and casual manner. I have prevented the terrible monsters from attacking you on this thread, and I will continue to do so if you want to talk a little.

Again, your personal information will be keept confidential, and everything you say will be treated under the third party rule meaning I cannot, and will, not divulge information to a third party without your express written consent.

How about the Hunger Games! Katniss Everdeen is an excellant role model for young women, don't you think? When I was a young girl, I could've used such a role model. Let's talk a bit.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Nobody said...

"So now it's an "attack". Lions, and tigers and bears...OH MY!!! Reader, just what exactly did I "attack" you on? Whatever it was, the outcome must have stuck in your subconscious which means I more than likely beat the daylights out of you on the subject at hand. Care to debate me on something?"

JR - you do realize that Reader is a conservative, gun owning woman who rarely, but insightfully and maturely contributes to this blog, don't you? You're a lot of fun, but honestly, I think you enjoy the fight more than the discussion to the point of not thoroughly reading a post before firing off. I hope you don't handle guns the way you do a keyboard ;) You also "attacked" a friend of mine who is a conservative that other posters here probably remember - Cincinatus - over a simple misunderstanding over what he was saying (you misread it and jumped to the conclusion he was a liberal). I spoke with him in person and he asked me what the deal was with Johnny Rico and I said to him what I am saying to you now -- you tend to fire off too quickly and the result if friendly fire. You'll probably take a shot at me now. Anywho, those Starship Trooper movies are fun, huh? Which is your favorite? I like the first, and Marauder, but the second was a dud (yeah, I knew where your screen name came from!).

Nobody said...

GIG,
I thought it was you, and yes, you were a respected contributor on this blog for a long time. I read here just about every day, though I rarely post, and wondered about you. You were (and still are, I hope) a SOLID fiscal conservative. During the whole Amendment One discussion, which became WAY too overheated, I kept thinking that this one issue was changing your thinking about a lot of other things - I hope that is not the case. People can agree to disagree. A while back, I was looking through the blog archives to find one particular discussion regarding LPOV and kept coming across your posts and kept thinking, "This is the GIG I know - not the one comparing me to racists, etc." (no hard feelings:))

Johnny Rico said...

Nobody,

You are the one who fired off too quickly here. When Cincinnatus revealed he was a conservative, I backtracked and told him I was sorry. Why did you leave that important little fact out? I won't pound away at you for trying to make me look bad, because I've had too much fun today pounding away at stupid liberals.

I never "attack" anyone. I simply make a reasoned, calculated comment. Because my comments are uncomfortable for many, they call them attacks.

As for Starship Troopers, I did like the first movie. Fairly well done. But the impetus for the movie was the book by Robert A. Heinlen. What a work of art. The book was, and still is, quite controversial.

Whatever happened to Cincinnatus? He should come on back to this blog and pound a liberal or two (that's all they're good for anyhow).

It's a dirty planet, it's a bug planet. I think I need to watch it again here in a few minutes now that you reminded me of the priceless contributions made by Starship Troopers.

See a bug hole - nuuuke it! Good stuff.

Johnny Rico

PS Nobody, you've not posted in a long time either.

PSS I've been into it with just about every person on this site. It's my personal responsibility as a citizen of the federation to help people see the light. I even set Blogger and New Guy straight recently on their misguided, pro zoning stances. By the way, we need to repeal all zoning laws in this liberal county.

Nobody said...

JR,
Not trying to make you look bad. Point was he had to reveal to you what you misunderstood which kind of proves my point. You just bragged about "beating the daylights" out of Reader, a fellow conservative. I'm not sure Blogger and New Guy would agree with your asessment that you "set them straight." The most important issue over the next ten weeks is making sure we defeat Obama and prevent him from having a second term in which to be more "flexible." Targeting each other and ostracizing moderate voters will guarantee another Obama term and I care a little too much for my children to stand by and let that particular future unfold.

Reader said...

Nobody, you are too kind. I miss Cincy's comments too. I would post more, but sometimes feel I should keep it to myself. I'm too sensitive; been told that anyway. Maybe that's why people shy away from speaking up. There's always someone who doesn't like you, not just your opinion...and it should be like Nobody says, we should agree to disagree and move on. It's easier that way. You can't make people love you...but you can continue to be kind.

I appreciate being able to post here and give my opinion sometimes. I'm just a dummy, here to learn. Thanks!

Opoib said...

Wrong answer I am not G.I.G. I am a personal friend of his. Those trying to misquote him by saying he said he would not post here again are "liars" as JR would say. He said he was tired of fighting with the hate mongers here not his words but mine.

He called a couple of posters here bigots which i agree with by the way.

The small "I" is a choice it can be used either way according to my English classes many years ago. The first I in a conversation, sentence, or paragraph should be capitalized the rest can remain in lower case to not seem to be accentuation of ones self.

As far as a previous post by me showing G.I.G as the user name I did not put that name there, I believe it was added by a censor here.

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico , I will ask again prove i am a liar by showing how you have logs of who posts to this blog by what name via their IP address.

If not that accusation does not make me look like a liar but you. I am asking you to protect your "good" name here and show you are not a liar.

Opoib said...

Guy, please cite an example of a point i failed to back up?

Opoib said...

Reader, please explain this to me

" I figured with the screen name GIG, you must be into computers too"

I do not get the correlation? between the line from the movie wall street and computers.

Not meaning to be offensive I just do not get it ?

Sarkazein said...

GIG wrote- "As far as a previous post by me showing G.I.G as the user name I did not put that name there, I believe it was added by a censor here."


Now that is funny.

Opoib said...

Nobody , GIG read your post he asked me to send this to you.

"I am still fiscally conservative but I vote a straight democratic ticket now. When people ask me why I point them to this site and tell them to read the posts of Johnny Rico and Rodger Young. The I ask them would they want to be governed by anyone she would support?

Anonymous said...

opoib please get help!

Sarkazein said...

Now that's just sad.

guy faulkes said...

G.I.G., I can understand your decision from the other side of the coin. It was your fanaticism in calling me a racist (?) and a bigot over Amendment One after I said it did not matter to me that caused me to vote for it.

Maybe the Democrat party will fit you better. Personally I am an Independent.

Johnny Rico said...

Nobody said:

"I'm not sure Blogger and New Guy would agree with your asessment that you "set them straight." "

I don't care what you think. I did set them straight.

"ostracizing moderate voters will guarantee another Obama term"

If they are stupid enough to vote for the racist bigot we have in office, then we have far greater problems sir.

Telling the truth is important here. We must promulgate freedom and personal responsibility here, even if it makes some mad. Not calling people to task is what put our country in the mess it's in. Quit riding the fence and start hammering away Nobody!

J.R.

Johnny Rico said...

OgloPLOP! said:

"He called a couple of posters here bigots which i agree with by the way."

Who are bigots here and what did they say to make you two liberal socialist sheep think this. Examples please.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

OgloPLOP! said:

"Johnny Rico , I will ask again prove i am a liar by showing how you have logs of who posts to this blog by what name via their IP address."

Again, OgloPLOP!, I must infer that I know all IP addresses through exploiting creases in the space/time continum.

Let's get to basics. How does posting on this site make you feel. Good or bad? Do you relate to your father or your mother when posting?

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

OgloPLOP! said:

""I am still fiscally conservative but I vote a straight democratic ticket now. When people ask me why I point them to this site and tell them to read the posts of Johnny Rico and Rodger Young. The I ask them would they want to be governed by anyone she would support?"

Isn't it funny that a liberal sheep has to have another sheep post something. LOL!!!

Can your imaginary little friend point to any one thing or things I've posted that would back up their insinuations? You see, liberals absolutly hate me. I represent freedom and advocate personal responsibility - two things liberals can't stand.

Guilty as charged

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Nobody said...

JR - while you're entertaining and knowledgeable, I prefer education to insult. I would rather debate logically and try to win people to our side than insult and demean everyone, even those that agree with us on a great many issues. Our side has the superior arguments and can win any debate without unnecessarily ostracizing people. I'm not riding the fence - a second Obama term and the financial disaster that it will ultimately lead to is too great a threat to my children. A second Obama term will threaten every issue we hold dear, including gun ownership and property rights. A second Obama term is worse than any other alternative, including Romney, who I'm not a big fan of, but is at least campaigning on repealing Obamacare and attempting to carry out meaningful reform on entitlements. You seem to think the Russian anarchist path of total destruction in order to rebuild is acceptable, but I think that most people with children would prefer not to tread that path.

Nobody said...

"I am still fiscally conservative but I vote a straight democratic ticket now. When people ask me why I point them to this site and tell them to read the posts of Johnny Rico and Rodger Young. The I ask them would they want to be governed by anyone she would support?"

How is this even possible? This seems to be the ultimate example of cutting one's nose off to spite their face! I don't see how anyone who declares themselves to be a fiscal conservative can vote straight democratic ticket with all of the debt and spending that goes with voting democratic. I understand the difference of opinion over Amendment One, but to sacrifice ones entire belief system over one issue seems so extreme, and to me, the issue of this election will be financial and fiscal -- the economy, the proper size and scope of government, taxes, entitlements and Obamacare. As for Johnny Rico, you can ask her, but I think she has made it perfectly clear that she will not vote for Romney as he is a liberal RINO, so not voting for Romney because of Rico makes no sense.

Opoib said...

Nobody, I agree with Gig on this one.

This site makes it a simple case to not vote for the side espousing the most hate or vote for the other.

I am a moderate in all senses of the word I like to look at both sides. But I can not vote for a side that wants to tell people who they can love legally as well as who wants to control what a woman can do with her body.

I think both the republican and democratic party's financial plans stink and both will lead to more pain and suffering for the middle class.

So I am basing my vote on who is the least intrusive in to my life.

I am also with Gig in the fact I can not wait to move out of NC.
It broke my heart to see hate legislated in to the state constitution.

I will give public thanks to you for posting on the moderate blog by breaking ranks here and doing that you took the risk of encoring the wrath of the Mag7 and that was courageous.

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico, i have asked you numerous times to show the logs of my ip address while posting here.

You have refused this leave no other outcome then you prove you are the one lying when you say I am a liar for saying I have posted here under a different screen name.

You sullied your own self given "good" name here .

Nobody said...

OPOIB,
Before you get too far into your thanks, I will say that, while I absolutely prefer mature dialogue in the political arena, I am a pro-life, Amendment One supporting conservative. I regretably waded into the Amendment One discussion here with GIG and was promply compared to a racist and bigot, as Guy has alluded to in his earlier post. Even on such emotional issues as this, name-calling and demeaning attitudes seem less effective than calm, rational debate. This is evidenced by GIG abandonment of conservative principles or Guy resolve to vote for the Amendment in response to fanatical name calling. We drive potential supporters away with divisive tactics.

Opoib said...

Nobody, I have no issue with what ever political position you have. Maybe that's why I thanked you for posting.

I did not say if your post was complementary or negative. I just found it admirable you took the time to make a post, when so many here seem to think it is verboten to post anywhere else, read anywhere else, or think anything else than what is approved by the censors and Mag 7.

Opoib said...

Nobody, do not take this as an insult it is not.

Do you think that the primary seven posters on this site are helping the republican party gain votes or hurting it? I

I would like to hear the answer from anyone else also.

Sarkazein said...

Opoib Liberal Anonymous GIG wrote-
"I am still fiscally conservative but I vote a straight democratic ticket now. When people ask me why I point them to this site and tell them to read the posts of Johnny Rico and Rodger Young. The I ask them would they want to be governed by anyone she would support?" ///

That doesn't even make sense. If there is someone that weak in their core values, they wouldn't even vote anyway. They wouldn't care or take the time to read a political blog.

Straight Democrat ticket

guy faulkes said...

Opoib/GIG/LPOV

For the upteenth time, which seven posters is it to which you are referring?

If I am one of them, I suspect that I do not favorably influence many of the establishment side of the Republican party, but I may have some agreement among the conservative base that the party tends to abandon.

Even more importantly, I hope some of my comments make the liberals of both parties think. I realize thinking and liberalism is seldom compatible, but one can always hope.

I do not care if you are Democrat or Republican. I want you to be conservative. A conservatives and most moderates can be reasoned with. In my experience, liberals are a lost cause.

Another answer to your question is that one of the posters on here probably appeals to anyone that visits because, unlike the mental masturbation on the Watch, we have differing opinions. By the same token, any person may probably be offended by a comment someone makes.

This is why you need to put on your big boy or girl britches and join the debate.

Opoib said...

Guy Faulkes, your continued disrespect by refusing to just address me by my screen name Opoib aside, I will reply and yes I include you as one of the Mag 7.

And to say the mental masturbation is limited to the watch is inaccurate in the nicest was I can put it.

It is made clear there that posts are censored on the watch. Here censorship is selective not just to LPOV I am not condemning or condoning LPOV just that he is the only one the censors will out and out admit to censoring. But also to many who post dissenting opinions.

Here it is more of a blatant pack mentality of us vs them. If you do not agree with us your the enemy and must be ridiculed till you no longer post here. That is the motto I see on this site any longer.

Now that the pack and censors here have run off most all who would post or challenge the status quo of were right and your wrong I see internal bickering starting. I do admit that that does amuse me :)

I will say it was not always that way but in the last several months it gets aggressively nastier day by day "imho".

I see it has been relaxed a bit in this thread. But i fully expect it to revert back to if I don't like your tone then censored your opinion is any min now.

guy faulkes said...

Opoib, It does not matter what you call yourself. You are a troll.

You spout the same drivel on every thread. Unlike Rico, you attack those that do not agree with you and never try to argue for your point of view On THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD. Rico may call you names, but at the same time, she makes a point on topic rather than crying about how unfairly she is treated. If she decides to post a purely intellectual post, not many can stay with her. I wish she would do that more often, but I can understand how she uses the entire blog as a vent page.

She does this deliberately and stays on topic, making the post legitimate. On the other hand, you seldom stay on topic.

For instance, you say the censorship has been eased on this thread. If you will try to focus for a moment, you might remember the subject of the threads is trolls. For once you are on topic., although by saying the nonexistent censorship of off topic posts has eased, it is evident you do not know it.

I too have no doubt you will continue to be removed on threads where you are trolling instead of staying on topic.

Opoib said...

guy falkes, thanks for referring to me by name. I have a question on Rico for you since you brought her up in your post to me.

If she continual posts about 40 million criminal aliens that equates to 1 in 8 people in the country, is that not trolling.

Is staring every reply to a poster who disagrees with her by slandering their name and that of their family not trolling ?

Johnny Rico said...

ObloPLOP!,

I asked you a question. If you can't answer the question, then I will take that as you have rejected my oft repeated offer to help you. The question was:


"He called a couple of posters here bigots which i agree with by the way."

Who are bigots here and what did they say to make you two liberal socialist sheep think this? Examples please.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"This site makes it a simple case to not vote for the side espousing the most hate or vote for the other."

Boy I sure agree with that. That's why you shouldn't vote Democrat in this election. As an Independant, I understand that Demoturds (you) engage in racism and class warfare on a scale never seen before. Did anyone hear Bidens comment about putting blacks back in chains? ObloPLOP!, did you hear him say that in the utterly stupid rendition of a southern accent?

So yes, ObloPLOP!, you're right, the left espouses a lot of hate and venom. Don't vote for them. LOL!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Samantha Young

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said:

"Do you think that the primary seven posters on this site are helping the republican party gain votes or hurting it? I

I would like to hear the answer from anyone else also."

Since you can't identify the Magnificent Seven, that must mean that I'm ok to address this question.

I think the posters on this site help the Republitards gain votes. Idiots like Liberal socialist sheep pov (notice lower case), ObloPLOP, and Happily Dumb do a great job garnering votes for republicans. Good job guys! Way to go!!!

Brought to you by your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS Stings don't it

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP! said (again):

"Johnny Rico, i have asked you numerous times to show the logs of my ip address while posting here"

And, I've told you those addresses are in my head and I choose not to show them to you right now. I may show yours to someone at a later date if I so choose.

LOL!!! Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS Stings don't it

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!,

How you feeling these days? Still a bit depressed? Since you're so intelligent and write so masterfully on this fine site, explain to us how you've posted 50% of the posts on this site and said absolutely nothing?

How did your psyche become damaged? Did your parents do something to you as a child or just ignore your rants? Did you have a bad experience trying to tell other school children how to live and pay the price for it? Have you been misunderstood during your pitiful life and now that you're on the backstretch, it's sinking in that other could care less about your insane views? Your despair is audible.

I invite you to invite the only person who can truly help you. Jesue Christ. Invite Jesus Christ into your heart as your personal Saviour and cast away the pain and suffering you endure on a daily basis. You've rejected my pleas to help you, but don't make the eternal mistake of eschewing Jesus Christ.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Craig Paxton

Johnny Rico said...

ObloPLOP! said:

"Is staring every reply to a poster who disagrees with her by slandering their name and that of their family not trolling"

First off your sentence structure makes no sense. How do I "stare" at a reply? What? I reply to replies. I respond to posts. I engage others on this site. I sure don't "stare" at them. About the only staring I do is at the idiots staring at me at the Wellness Center when I'm on the Eliptical Machine.

At any rate, I don't disparage your name. I describe you through the use of a moniker. In the case of your current moniker, I say it pretty much sums up what and who you represent on this site. OploPLOP! alludes to the plopping sound common to commodes across the country. What makes this sound, I'll leave to your drug damaged imagination! LOL!!! Do you realize that everytime you post, everyone on this site automatically thinks about what I just said. Sure you don't want to change your name now?

Good ole OploPLOP! Have an OploPLOP! kind of a day!! LOL!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS In other words, act like a troll, get treated like a troll.

Stings don't it

Johnny Rico said...

Any other trolls wanna take a shot at the title?

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Opoib said...

Johnny Rico, your continual ranting only goes to make you look more like a petulant little child you act like.

I did have a typo in my post. The word should have been "start" not "stare".

I would expect any moderately educated person would be able to see that by the context of the post itself, Rather then launch in to a long winded diatribe trying to justify their own actions all from a one letter typo.

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!,

And your continual refusal to answer questions, make meaningful commentary, or engage others on this site reminds me of liberal povs (notice lower case). One and the same perhaps? LOL!!! Then again, with my IP Address locater, it's not all that difficult.

At any rate, you have many posts to answer here my liberal socialist sheep of a friend. Then again, we can start our conseling therapy if you'd like. What's it you want to talk about? Maybe your fascination with Marxism? Or your commonality with Nazi Fascism? You name it. I just want to help. LOL!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

OploPLOP!

I've seen your posts degenerate from mediocre-written posts to typical one line quips, complete with misspellings and poor sentence structure, normally associated with liberal socialist sheep pov (notice lower case).

Do you get dumber as a thread continues or do the posters get tired of being hammered on and hand off to the very lowest of the village idiots. Just curious. LOL!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico