This blog originally founded by Blogger who holds a theological degree and a doctorate in Counseling Psychology. Taught Psychology for 32 years and is now Professor Emeritus. Is a board-certified psychologist and was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award in his profession. Ministered as a chaplain, and pastored Baptist and Episcopal churches. Publications cover the integration of psychology and theology. Served in the Army, the Merchant Marines and the Peace Corps.

Sunday, September 9, 2012

Why is AARP Schilling for Obama?

   AARP FOLLOW THE MONEY schilled for Obamacare.  FOLLOW THE MONEY. Did AARP, a giant health insurance company, have dollar marks in their eyes when they saw everyone being required to buy health insurance?

Here in North Carolina, an ad is now being run carrying every proven lie against the Romney-Ryan plan to save Medicare.  The AARP logo appears in it.  What this deal is for AARP, I have not totally figured out.  However, if AARP gets its way, with the onslaught of baby boomers as well as fewer people putting into it, Medicare will be going under.  Because nearly a half trillion dollars have already been stolen from Medicare to shore up Obamacare, could AARP possibly be expecting Medicare will eventually have to be folded into Obamacare

One of the AARP/Obama ads is called The Facts.  In the ad, interestingly it’s now even called “Obamacare.”  Listening carefully you hear the embedded lies.  First of all it quotes AARP on the “Ryan” plan not a Romney plan.  Then it slips in the word “voucher” for “future” retirees, leaving the impression that “future” means “from now on,” not ten years from now.  And although the AARP used the phrase “undermine the market value of Medicare” the voice-over only says “undermine Medicare.”  Then it blatantly throws in the liberal think tank’s study saying it  “raises costs by $6400 dollars” which everyone knows now has been discredited.

   

29 comments:

guy faulkes said...

From what I have read, the AARP is in favor of Obamacare because it benefits their organization financially, especailly on the supplimental insurance sales side.

NewGuy said...

“AARP is also in a position to benefit financially if the health care legislation passes, because seniors losing benefits as a result of cuts to Medicare Advantage will be forced to buy Medigap policies, which is the main source of AARP revenue.” And I have heard from different sources that there is a half-trillion dollar cut in Medicare funds contained within the fine print in the bill, which will devastate senior citizens who Obama is intent on rushing to an early grave to cut back more for the program.

Imagine; starting an non-profit organization with the sole purpose of aiding and helping senior citizens who need guidance and assistance getting along in the world after they have lost family members who had helped them in the past, and then after getting a lot of their money, turning into a corrupt, political money-making machine for every one but the ones who paid to get it started.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17046

Blogger said...

Have you seen the Obama/AARP political ad? Everyone in my family is rabid. If I had not cancelled my subscription back during Obamacare, I could have the satisfaction of cancelling again. I hope all of you have. AARP is a disgrace and an amen to the last sentence of the article NewGuy posted "Let’s hope that some MUCH higher authority takes them to task."

Blogger said...

The President’s $8 Billion Coincidence

Opoib said...

Blogger I am interested what is your stance on healthcare. I find it needs reform maybe not as Obama wants it but needs reform none the less.

Here is a quote I just ran for my self. Now if I was working a 12 to 15 dollar an hour job even a 2500 dollar deductible to have on hand in cash would be very hard to pay.

Especially in Watauga county pay here is very low vs cost of living. And not many jobs besides the university or local government offer benefits.

Do you think this is an acceptable amount for a single male in his 40 to pay for these amounts of coverage?

Plan A
Office Visits Prescription Drugs
Primary: $15 Generic: $10
Specialist: $30 Preferred Brand: $45
Deductible Coinsurance
(% You pay after deductible) Est. Monthly premium Select to compare
$2,500 20% up to $2,000/yr $361.25
1 of 2 options with the selected deductible range. Show all plans
Plan B
Office Visits Prescription Drugs
Primary: $25 Generic: $10
Specialist: $50 Preferred Brand: $45
*(after you've met a $200 Rx deductible)
Deductible Coinsurance
(% You pay after deductible) Est. Monthly premium Select to compare
$3,500 30% up to $3,000/yr $236.18
$2,500 30% up to $3,000/yr $286.76
2 of 4 options with the selected deductible range. Show all plans
Plan C
Office Visits Prescription Drugs
Primary: $30 Generic: $10
Specialist: $60 Preferred Brand: $45
*(after you've met a $500 Rx deductible)
Deductible Coinsurance
(% You pay after deductible) Est. Monthly premium Select to compare
$3,500 50% up to $3,000/yr $221.38
1 of 2 options with the selected deductible range. Show all plans

Blogger said...

Opoib “Blogger I am interested what is your stance on healthcare.” As a conservative, I am still back there wondering how health care ever became a central government responsibility. But now the left has bullied us into it, even though government involvement in health care goes against every fiber of our Constitutional beliefs, we obviously will propose something other than just dismantling Obamacare. Romney has already hinted at keeping preexistent conditions and policies that keep kids on the policy longer. Hopefully the devil won’t be in the details, but what he proposes will be what I support.

Opoib said...

Blogger, my question to you is non partisan left or right regarless.

Do you think since government regulates healthcare and prevents it from being a free market commodity, hence making it as expensive as the qoutes I gave you that it need no changes?

Are you ok with 20%, one in five of the county you live in being uninsured. This county also has a 25% poverty rate making it harder for that percentage to drop due the pay vs cost of living here.

I do not think that the one in four people here that are living at the poverty rate can afford a $2500 dollar deductible before their coverage starts and then still be responsible for 30% of the bill.

Thats my problem with the present state of insurance do you find that acceptable ?

Blogger said...

Opiob For the time being, I will have to go with my prior statement. Remember the old "Have you stopped beating your wife?" conundrum. One can't say they don't think the cental government has any business in health care (other than for the disabled and the elderly) then turn around and have a plan.

Opoib said...

Blogger, how about this question. Would you be in favor of the government pulling out of healthcare all together and letting the free market determine pricing and availability ?

guy faulkes said...

Opoib/Lpov, does your question about government pulling out of healthcare altogether include regulations that prevent you from buying antibiotics and maintenance medicines over the counter?

Blogger said...

Opoib Government out of health care. I heard someone say the other day that the government can even screw up a one car funeral. I would say yes, get the government out of anything we possibly can. However, I have not had time to really think about the possibility of some unthought of unintended consequences. Being a true Libertarian is somewhat like being against killing animals. One day, you realize you really do need the leather of a cow for your shoes. No extreme position is without its contradictions.

Opoib said...

Guy Liar Faulkes, what one of these words do you not understand and I will help you with them in a sentence.

" letting the free market determine pricing and availability ?"


Opoib

Opoib said...

Blogger you have done a masterful job avoiding my question. I will ask it in its most simple term. Do you think 400 plus dollars a month is a fair price to pay for a single person in their forties working for wages that are the average in Watauga County NC ?

guy faulkes said...

Free market price and availability controls both medicines purchased with a prescription and those without, Opoib/Lpov/Troll. Have you ever heard of generic drugs?

Do you favor over the counter purchase of antibiotics and maintenance drugs or not? It is a simple question and should not be to difficult for you to answer.

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Opoib said...

Guy Liar Faulkes, until you admit your lies about me posting about climate change, I will no longer enable you to lie about me by engaging with you.

guy faulkes said...

So you are leaving the blog, Opoib/Lpov/Troll?

I would still like to know your opinion on over the counter antibiotics and maintenance drugs. The funny thing is that we may very well agree, but you are emotionally unable to be on the same side of any issue as am I. This is a large reason that you are a troll.

Anonymous said...

Opibo don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out!

Opoib said...

I am not leaving anywhere Guy liar Faulkes. I am just not going to engage you in anything, until you admit lying about me making any claim about climate change on this blog.

Opoib said...

Anon 8:35 still the same internet tough guy. I see that you got called out here in the past.

I am easy to find here or on my blog if you have an issue with me address me here or there.

Maybe having a screen name would help also.

Anonymous said...

"I am just not going to engage you in anything, until you admit lying about me making any claim about climate change on this blog. " Says our nut job poster while engaging guy again!

Anonymous said...

I DID address you, fool! That's why you responded.

Predictable!

Opoib said...

Look Momma anon 1:28 JR Anon learned how to shout on line. I bet you are so proud of him.

He still can not post an honest thought that makes a point but he did learn how to shout.

guy faulkes said...

Opoib said...

I am not leaving anywhere Guy liar Faulkes. I am just not going to engage you in anything, until you admit lying about me making any claim about climate change on this blog.

Uhhh...You just did Opoib/Lpov?Troll. Does that not make you a liar?

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, he is too stupid to see the contradictions he makes!

Anonymous said...

When he used to post as GIG, he made his point and didn't get involved in calling names. Guess he must have changed meds?

Anonymous said...

And it's cute how he keep "engaging" me.

Anonymous said...

Guy, I was going to ask you how you got him to agree NOT to engage you! I wanted that deal too! But, then I see that he is the same kind of liar as the other troll used to be. Can't be trusted to keep his word.

guy faulkes said...

Anonymous, I am just lucky, I guess, if he keeps his word.

It may be because the troll gets mad when you answer him with something he cannot rebut.