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Wednesday, September 21, 2016

Open Letter to Chair of the Local Party

    Anne-Marie Yates, Chair of the Watauga Republican party wrote:

"Blogger. For all of us actually fighting the good fight, it might be nice if you got the facts before shooting us in the back like the State Board of Elections does every Time!"

 
    Ms .Yates as you are aware, one of the great issues in this upcoming election is the total cowardliness of Republicans. Republicans folded like wet paper towels in front of this president nearly every time. That is why we went outside the party for our presidential candidate. Or, we just left the party.

So, excuse me if this voting site decision just looked like more Republican wimpiness. We keep screaming at our representatives in Washington because even though they have the power of the purse, they have no courage to use it.

So, why is this local situation not the same? Why did we not say, for example: "O.K. you can have your other site, but we just won’t ask our taxpayers to pay for it?" Or, what if we had defiantly said, "No, we just won’t do a second site, period. Now what will you guys in Raleigh do?" "A pedestal of our party is local control and we intend to defend it."

I have been on a number of state and local commissions. Each time, one of them began to betray the peoples' trust or went outside their mandate, I resigned, making my protest public. We just don’t have many profiles in courage anymore in our party.

(By the way, I am fighting the good fight. Hundreds of readers read this blog daily.)

53 comments:

Blogger said...

Anne-Maria have you had time to read this post yet?
http://wataugarepubs.blogspot.com/2016/09/when-democrats-cheat.html

guy faulkes said...

I left the Republican party years ago for the reasons Blogger stated. If it ever decides to stop being concerned with continuing the status quo to the point it is no longer liberal lite, it might make a comeback. However, I doubt it. It is to little to late. Its base no longer trusts it and nothing can stand without a foundation (base).

Trump's success is an indication of this. The man regularly washes his feet in his mouth, but people prefer him over the liberals and the establishment (if there is any difference in the two).

Anonymous said...

Lets face it. Local DemocRATS are not wimps. They keep taking on the fight and don't back off. I don't understand why we can't do the same. We are wimps.

Foscoe Phoenix said...

Anonymous, exactly. The liberals tell you what they plan to do and then do it.

Ms. Yates, how about telling us how it is we voted in a Republican State Legislature to undo a century of damage done by Democrats, and then those Republicans refused to increase freedoms and roll back government oppressions? And you say you're fighting the "good fight."? What fight is that? I've seen no fighting from Republicans except against freedom loving conservatives.

It's pretty clear you feel intimidated by conservatives. We are holding Republicans feet to the fire in regards to a host of issues. You don't like it, and remain silent on the issues that allowed Republicans to take back the state legislature. For instance, Thom Tillis, Phil Berger, and "Skip" Stam all sided with the NC Sheriff's Association over the common woman and man regarding abolishing the anti-Constitutional pistol permit process. Not a peep from you liberals on that one. Why not?

You're party is weak and full of liberals. I re-registered as an Independent like Guy Fawkes so as not to be associated with traitors. Where was the Watauga County Republican Party when a few lone conservatives tried to battle Blowing Rock's bill that banned weapons on public property? Fighting you say? I sure didn't see the Republican Party fighting that night. What I did see was a well organized, very effective mass of liberal socialist Democrats who came out and took away Constitutional Rights. Unlike your team, the Democrats came loaded for bear. They fought.

Don't give me this malarkey that the Rethuglican Party is doing anything more than giving away the rights that conservatives and Patriots fought hard to preserve. Republicans are no different than Democrats - people are starting to wake up though.

Oh, and where are the Johnny-come-lately wanna be Republican Politicians who came to this site asking for support, only to disappear without a trace? Two of them were asked tough questions which they never would answer, yet I'm supposed to support them because they are Republicans? No thanks. I support Conservatives, not political parties.

Cyclops said...

You critics of the Watauga GOP apparently know virtually nothing about state law. and election rules. The Watauga Board of Elections did not approve an on campus voting site. In fact, they did just the opposite by a 2 to 1 vote. But state law allow an appeal to the NC Board of Elections when there is not a unanimous vote by local election boards. It was the State Board of Elections that allowed the Chancellor of ASU to decide that there will be a poll at the Student Union right on campus.

The Watauga County GOP has no power or authority to decide where polling stations are located. The local Board of Elections did decide that there should be no on campus voting site, but that decision was overruled by the state Board which in effect gave the decision to Sheri Evarts.

What a ridiculous and ignorant diatribe against the local Republicans. Get a life and work for conservative causes rather than carping about local conservatives when you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Blogger said...

OK Cyclops,but before I eat crow can you or anyone else tell me where the money comes from for two voting sites? Who is paying for them, the state when it ordered them, or local tax payers from Republcan-run county funds?

guy faulkes said...

Friend Cyclops, take a deep breath and focus. The issues you post about were settled in the thread BILL ACETO YOU LET ME DOWN TODAY. This thread concerns Ms. Yates post stating that those of us that feel the Republican party has went in the wrong direction and are working as hard as we can to either fix it or start a viable alternation party, are no longer fighting the good fight.

This would depend on what you think the good fight is. If you are an establishment Republican who wants to maintain the status quo or a party first Republican that feels Trump is not really a part of the party, then Ms. Yates statement as she wrote it is probably correct from that point of view.

However, if you are someone like me that feels the establishment Republicans are killing the party in the same manner that the liberal Democrats are killing the country,we are not just fighting the good fight, we are winning it. Over the years, we have educated enough people that the party can no longer remain liberal lite. If it does not return to its conservative base, it is dead as a viable party.

I realize that the current situation upsets a lot of people. Many of them are good conservatives on the local level. They believe the party will return to its base on its own. It will not unless it is forced to do so. It is a shame we have reached this point, but if the Republicans do not represent conservatives,then the conservatives have no choice but to get representation elsewhere.

Johnny Rico said...

Another excellent post by Guy Faulks. Sums it up perfectly. Hat tip sir

Johnny Rico said...

The Watauga County Commission went pure Republican 8 years ago. With an 8 year record to judge these idiots by, we must ask the question "Did they increase freedom and liberty for the proletariat?" The obvious answer is "no." Exactly what fighting have they done to roll back the oppressive regulations enacted by the former Democratic County Commission? None. We voted in this cast of characters to do just that. They were swept into office by Tea Party Patriots with an expectation they would decrease government roll back regulation, and increase freedom. Instead the proletariat was treated to status quo governance that differed little from the former commission. This "hold the course" type of governance is just as bad as a more insidious one.

I've pretty much quit calling out the RINO County Commission. When Vince Gable, a true conservative, didn't make re-election, it was evident this body of politic was over as a hedge against tyranny. They're barely worth mentioning when it comes to effective governance. They've done NOTHING over the past 8 years. Not a thing. And the Republican Party wonders why they are questioned by conservatives? The fact they still don't get it this late in the game is real evidence of the true stupidity of establishment RINOs.

Again, we'll contrast this against liberals and liberal governing bodies. They are abject failures, no doubt, however they DO SOMETHING. Their results are quantitative. For the low information sheep, that means it's measurable and evident. From local zoning regulations, signage regulations, building codes, federal money infusions into state and local governments, etc., they DO SOMETHING.

Republicans are failures. We trusted you to DO SOMETHING, and you let us down....again. Vote them all out and replace with something else.

Johnny Rico said...

So the Republicans are fighting for us eh? You mean like George Bush this past weekend when he sat with the obummers at the opening of the needless Black History Museum in Washington, DC. This is like Chris Christie hugging obummer just prior to the 2012 election. What are these "fighters" thinking? I truly believe most establishment Rethuglicans are even more liberal than conservatives realize. 50 days prior to the election is not the time for RINO Rush to make pretty with Hussein obummer - especially when Bush decided it would be best if he stayed out of the media spotlight over the past 8 years. Yet he thinks now is the time to get back in the spotlight? RINOs are insidious and not your friend.

Cyclops said...

Blogger, I would assume all polling sites are funded out of the budget of the Watauga County Elections Board. I don't know if they receive funds from the state or if it is locally funded, but I suspect the latter is the case.

Guy, you can rail all you want about establishment vs Conservative republicans. I would probably agree with you on some issues. But the issue of the ASU voting site is a red herring. The local GOP fought against it, but the state Board of Elections had the final say. And apparently there is a RINO on the state board on who cast the deciding vote.

guy faulkes said...

Cyclops, you continue to miss the point. I am not concerned with the board of elections, state or local nor is this thread about them. I am concerned with the premise that if I do not go in lock step with the Republican party, I am somehow not "fighting the good fight".

I am not a Republican. I left the party when I realized that many if not most of its leaders were much more concerned with continuing or increasing their personal power and influence than they were with supporting the conservative desires of the party's base. They talk the talk but fail to even crawl the walk.

The early voting polling venues is only one example of this and it is a poor one. Better ones are easy to find. As Blogger has said, the Republicans caved on every thing Obama wanted. Take your pick.

This is the reason Trump is the Republican candidate. People are tired of Republicans being liberal lite. As I said before, if the Republicans do not represent conservatives, conservatives will either change the party or go elsewhere, The party as it now exists is not viable.

Anonymous said...

Trump is toast, your party is in shambles, your gov is a wimp, the NCGOP has destroyed our reputation globally and cost our state hundreds of millions in revenue, higher courts keep smacking down unconstitutional NC legislation (thx "party of the people"!), the SBOE recognizes how dimwitted you people are, and now you're attacking one another. Oh, and your blog traffic has trickled to, what, 5 people who come in here and randomly spout off the junk that Breitbart and Fox pound into your empty heads.

Don't you people ever get tired of being angry and wrong? What does it take for you to see that your party was sold out decades ago and you've been lied to, race-baited, and used? For decades. Used for decades by scumbag pols who get your vote by leveraging the worst part of humanity (racism, sexism, or some other form of hate towards your fellow humans). Those pols act like they share the same misanthropic outlook that you do and then steal your vote under false pretenses.

I visited this forum 3 years ago and told you that you dinosaurs are soon to go extinct. If you guys don't evolve, and soon, your vote is going to be worthless for a loooong time.

Stop trying to legislate how others live their lives and maybe your platform becomes relevant again. As it stands, no one cares about your outrage nearly as much as you do.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous September 27, 2016 at 3:03 PM

Excellent Comment

guy faulkes said...

Anonymous 303, you are certainly entitled to your mistaken opinion.

The Republican party will never be relevant until; it grows a backbone and ceases to be liberal lite. Trump is a step in the right direction.

By the way, it is not my party.

Johnny Rico said...

Nor mine

Johnny Rico said...

Looks like the local RINO party doesn't want to engage with conservatives. Probably a good thing as they would be exposed for the liberals they are. The part of Mitch McConnel, John Boehner and Richard Burr are little different than their Democratic counterparts. Establishment Republicans have sold ma and pa America down the river. From increased regulation, increased taxes (they now tax plumbers and house painters!), and ignoring conservative values (i.e. the Constitution), they are the party of despots. I'll not be voting for a Republican again unless I know beyond a doubt she/he is a true conservative. Johnathan Jordan and Dan Souchek fit the bill, but not many others.

Johnny Rico said...

Where's the local Rethuglican Party? They've dodged conservatives for years now. Republicans favor liberal Democrats over conservatives and have for some time now. Watching that twit Bush make pretty with the Clintons at the unneeded Black monument in DC, 30 days before the election, says it all.

Anonymous said...

Anne Marie, just how are you fighting the good fight? All you Repubs are looking for is the means to use public monies to help yourselves and usually with the aid of some of your big Democrat pals. Plus, you want people to join the party and work within for changes, etc,: that is, a controlled and corrupt party that benefits only a very few. Ha!

Also, any real issue that develops, you and your cowardly GOPers, especially officials, are silent and just stay on the sidelines, while a few others do all the work and fighting, lady. And then, you have the gall to sneak in and try to take credit for any good results someone else has worked hard for. You and your GOP disgust me.

Johnny Rico said...

Where was the local Republican Party when beleaguered gun owners were fighting a corrupt town council and their liberal supporters over gun rights. I don't seem to remember the local party doing much of anything that night.

Johnny Rico said...

Still waiting on the local Republican Party to comment on this thread.

Anonymous said...

Jonny, with vitriolic, thug-sounding malcontents dominating this thread, the local Republican Party would be well-advised to withhold any comment on this thread and most of the other invective being posted here. The GOP doesn't need your input or want your support. Get a life or crawl back in to your hole.

Anonymous said...

My guess is that not many active Repubs bother to read this blog anymore. Maybe they do when Watauga Watch point out something particularly ignorant - like blogger not knowing how the early voting poll sites were determined.s

Johnny Rico said...

Nonymouse Coward,

Your self-induced vitriol results from the truths that conservatives banter about on this blog. Furthermore, is it vitriolic to ask difficult questions? Typical liberal socialist sheep - resort to emotion and name calling when confronted with tough facts and common sense. I'll crawl back into the hole if you'll go back to Mom's basement and mainline some Fentanyl laced Heroin.

Watauga County Republicans seem scared to engage conservatives on this blog. We've exposed their status quo governance and inability to increase freedom, liberty, while decreasing the grip local government has on subjects, I mean citizens. And now they have a liberal socialist sheep fighting for them!!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:24 PM - On the contrary, the GOP DOES need our input, like money, and support, votes, ONLY when there is an upcoming election. And if the GOP is successful, they do as other elected officials. They ignore and insult their traditional base, act like tyrants, develop amnesia re: any promises they made, and with their 'bipartisan' pals, raise taxes and spend money like drunken sailors that benefits only a few.

It is and has been evident that the GOP values Party over Principles, just like the Dems.

Blogger said...

Anon 8:56 pm Sorry to disappoint you but hundreds read the blog every day and there has been no drop off.

guy faulkes said...

Anon 8:56, both the Wolf and I have been predicting what has happened to the Republican party for years (in the Wolf's case, about 20 years). If the Republican party survives, it is going to have to move to the right. It might remain as a inconsequential entity, but not as a viable force if it does not.

This change has happened sooner than I expected. Trump being the candidate proves this.

The establishment Republicans may no want our input, but they damn sure need it and should have been paying attention to it. If they do not start to do so, there is going to be a long and difficult period coming.

In my opinion, this blog remains at the leading edge of political reality. It talks about issues long before the talk shows and media even think about them. I do not post as much as I used to, but I visit the site every day to keep up with current issues.

Sarkazein said...

Trump is a move to the Right?

guy faulks said...

Sarkazein said...

Trump is a move to the Right?

If he walks the walk like he talks the talk, he certainly would be. One does not have to go very far to be t the right of Romney or McCain. In any vase, he is proof the establishment Republicans are losing their grip on the party.

Sarkazein said...

GuyFaulkes- It is true if the term "Conservative" now means- a former Democrat who turned populist. The new Right-wingers? This is a turn to populism, but not a turn to the Right. It is a turn away from the "establishment", for now, but not a turn to the Right. If anything, it is a nose dive. Both McCain and especially Romney are way to the Right of Mr Trump. Mr Trump is just benefiting from the anti "establishment" phase and he, Trump, won a lower percentage of the primary vote than anyone since Reagan in '68. More Republicans voted against him than for him in the primary. I would venture to guess without looking it up, McCain and Romney both won a higher percentage of Republicans including Conservatives than did Mr Trump. People are mad at McCain and Romney because they lost and you can include Dole in there too, which gave us scum like Clinton and Obama. The same will be true for Mr Trump if he should loose and give us the mother of all scum Hillary Clinton.

Sarkazein said...

I still say it is the sea change of the American voter. It started with President Bush 41. There were more voters who preferred a life long politician with a history of affairs and sleaze and a nose like a vacuum cleaner- enough to be called Slick Willy by those who knew him over a WW2 Naval pilot, Congressman, businessman, Diplomat to China, CIA Director, Vice President/President, great family man. The same can be said about Bob Dole and John McCain. They were head and shoulder above their competition but a majority of the American voters, Democrats, preferred the lesser of men. W was beaten in the popular vote (more Democrats than Republicans) by a guy known as a prick to those who knew him well.
This election will be a closer choice, but the Democrats will have to prefer a psycho woman who has covered up the actions of her sexual predator husband, become a millionaire selling political access, lied on a regular basis, failed at world affairs... on and on... over Mr Trump who carts some pretty heavy baggage but none as heavy as Hillary.
It is the Democrats who are your enemy, not "establishment" Republicans.

Cyclops said...

Trump won't move the party an inch to the right. If he loses, which seems very likely, the "establishment" will take back over and Trump and his minions will be relegated to the ash heap of history. If he should by some miracle win, he will have to seek support from the GOP regulars in Congress or his Presidency will be a total wash out. He certainly won't get any support from liberal Democrats or the liberal media.

Anonymous said...

Why have none of the "I'm not a Republican," anti-establishment, Trump supporting "true conservatives" here mentioned Trump's parental leave policy? Sounds like just another big government spending initiative. Trump's just a big spending RINO. He's a pro-abortion, anti-gun, anti private property rights charlatan, and you guys fall for it because he says he'll "build a wall." Never gonna happen. You'll see how wrong you were if he gets elected, but chances are, you'll never get proven wrong because he's gonna get killed in November. Get ready for a 30 year liberal super majority on the Supreme Court because this clown wound up as the nominee. Kiss your guns goodbye. As the guy above said, the dems are the real enemy and you guys hate repubs more. Great job!

Johnny Rico said...

Noneymouse coward,

Before you go patting yourself on the back for the revelation you just presented us, remember that conservatives on this site already outed Trump on all these points several months back. Pay attention.

Trump is anti-establishment - that's why many of us will vote for him. That's in addition to the Supreme Court selections which are far more important than a Trump presidency. If Clinton wins, yes, as I've said time and again before you reiterated my long held stance, they will indeed come for the guns and many other things. Liberals are the enemy my confused friend, not a political party.

Johnny Rico said...

Cyclops,

Wrong again. The Republican caliphate is gone forever. Too many of us true conservatives to allow liberal RINOs back in a major power position. That's not to say that liberal Democrats wouldn't boost numbers enough to vote a liberal RINO into office. Fat Boy Chris Christie is a prime example of that. He calls himself a Republican, but everything he does is just like a Democrat. Did you happen to hear of the 23 cent a gallon gas tax he has advocated for and passed in New Jersey to pay for a few crumbling bridges and roads?

And you support this type of governance? If so, don't worry is Mrs. Bill Clinton gets elected because you'll be treated to tax and spend like you've never seen. And you like a Chris Christie type who does exactly the same thing? Huh? Come again good buddy? What? You make no sense with your post. You ask for a Republcian little different than a Democrat and think the outcome will be different?

Remember Ken Cuccinnelli in Virginia my friend. He was ignored by the establishment in an election he could've won (and nearly did with 0 support). Many of us won't forget what the establishment did to Ken Cuccinnelli and many of us won't forget Romney, the Bushs, and the rest of the anti-Trump establishment types. How wrong you are.

guy faulkes said...

I do not remember saying Trump was a conservative. I said that he talked the talk but it remained to be seen if he walks the walk. The important fact is that he is the Republican candidate and is not part of the Republican establishment. Hr is an indication that while it may not be dead, the establishment is severely wounded. People were so tired of liberal lite Republican candidates as perpetuated by he establishment that they went outside the status quo to get an alternative.

Whether he wins or loses, I believe the die is cast for the Republican establishment. I do not expect them to go quickly or quietly, but they are going to go.

Am I mistaken, but was not Reagan once a Democrat?

In any event, Trump will not do any worse than the last few liberal lite Republican candidates.

Sarkazein said...

It has always been- take the lesser of two evils. The past couple of decades, the Democrats have preferred the worser of two evils.
If Bill was running against Hillary in a primary, Democrats would prefer the rapist over the enabler, the convicted liar over the un-indicted co-conspirator.

Sarkazein said...

This last primary, the Democrats picked Hillary with all her cankers of illegalities and scandals and failures over Sanders and O'malley(sp). Neither O'malley or Sanders have such a dark history. It is the Democrat voters who have changed. They want the most evil. This is yet another unintended consequence of liberalism.

Anonymous said...

I really want Trump to win just so I can hear you "true conservatives" try to explain to the rest of us how Trump is better than "the establishment" when he fails to build the wall, reform immigration and offers up an amnesty program for illegals that are already here. That, and his support for abortion and gun control. You'll be spinning like tops! If anti-establishment is all that matters to you, you might as well go ahead and vote for hillary -- that will destroy the republican establishment as quickly as anything else you have done. You many not like life very much after that, but at least the Repubs are dead and Democrats will have sole power for 30 years. And you can claim all the credit for the disaster to come!

Sarkazein said...

I want him to win so I can see Hillary lose.

guy faulkes said...

So, Anonymous, as the scenario you just posted indicates you think Trump will join the establishment faction of the Republican party (every issue you brought up belongs to the establishment); I have to wonder why you came to this conclusion. I think you would come closer to hitting the mark if you say that the establishment will join the Democrats in an effort to spite Trump by pushing all these issues.

You continue to fail to grasp the fact that Blogger once more put before the blog. This fact is the indisputable conclusion that the Republican party as it now exists is doomed.People are either going to change the party by replacing the establishment with outsiders or leave the party. The identity of the outsider is irrelevant. One way or the other people will have the representation they approve of. The concept of party first politics is slowly dying. Nothing you, me, or anyone else can do or say will stop this from happening.

Do you really think that the change can be done in 30 years? You are more optimistic than I. I think we will have a rough row to hoe for qt least the next 50 years. We will gain a little, lose a little and then gain some more. As I said, the establishment is not going to go quickly or quietly, but it is going to go.

Cycops said...

Guy and Jonny, You couldn't be more wrong about the future of the Republican Party. Our political system is designed to moderate the extremes. After Trump loses, the yahoos, the malcontents, the dim-witted, the know nothings and the far-right zealots who support Trump will recede into oblivion and the hated establishment will take charge of resurrecting the GOP.

Even if Trump should win (and BTW I hope he does because like Sark, I want Hillary to lose), he will be immediately co-opted by your so-called establishment. Any President, if he is to govern effectively, will have to moderate and seek some level of consensus, at least among his own party. Otherwise he will face certain defeat and perhaps even impeachment.

The good news is that we won't have to wait too long to find out whose predictions are most accurate. I have MA in Political Science and have studied American politics for many years. If I am wrong, I'll happily admit it, but I hope you'll remember next year what I am predicting tonight. Cause if you don't, I'll be sure to remind you.

Blogger said...

Guy, you wrote "You continue to fail to grasp the fact that Blogger once more put before the blog." To clarify matters, what I pointed out was that because of the Republicans behavior of folding like wet paper towels over and over again, we went outside to find someone who would not. I used the local situation as just one more case of it, as their folding so quickly after the state ruling seemed typical. No one fell on their sword.

guy faulkes said...

Cycops, I an curious. What is your explanation for Trump being the candidate? What makes you think this is not something that will be repeated on a continuing basis?

As I said that getting rid of he establishment is going to probably take 50 years, i do not believe I will be around for you o proclaim that you told me so. As I said before, we will gain , then lose, then gain more. Eventually the gains will prevail. People are tired of the status quo.

In my opinion, it took the liberals over 100 years to reach their current position. I have to admit they used a form of political science to get there. The movie "The Flim Flam Man" described it as the art of backstabbing, corkscrewing, and double dealing.

Sarkazein said...

There should be runoffs in any elections, primaries included, where no one reaches 51%.

Sarkazein said...

We will see if spite carries the day.

guy faulkes said...

I do not know if spite will carry the day, but when the liberals, including the big government establishment Republicans, run out of other people's money to spend buying votes, the day is carried.

Anonymous said...

Republicans never spend other peoples money.

Cyclops said...

Guy, I know what will happen because it has happened before and will always happen under our political system. Whenever an extremist or militant wing of a political party takes control, that party losses. Then the urge to survive prevails and cooler heads take back over. It happened in '64 after the Goldwater debacle and it happened to the Democrats after McGovern in '72 and Dukukis in '88. In all cases, more moderate elements took back control and the parties not only survived, they won---Nixon in '68, Carter in'76 and Clinton in '92.

The problem for the far right--and I am supportive of many but not all of their positions--is that it will never be able to muster much more than a third of the American electorate at any given time. Their priority is not to defeat or even hamper the leftward drift of the country, but to take a militant all or nothing stance. When this happens they will invariably win nothing.

The real tragedy of 2016 is that conditions are ideal to defeat the liberals and correct some of their more audacious initiatives. But when Trump's supporters decided the real enemy was the GOP, not the liberals, they opted for an 'all' strategy that will fail and result in we conservatives getting badly defeated.

And while I won't be around either in 50 years, the passage of time will not constrain the leftward drift of the country. The liberals will be even more solidly in control by then and historians will look back on 2016 as a watershed year for the American left's ascendancy to perpetual power and control.

Anonymous said...

And sanity.

guy faulkes said...


cyclops, you are correct in your statement that this scenario has happened before - several times. You are incorrect in that this means it will always happen. The damage that has been done is cumulative. People have finally come to the realization that making the same response to the same stimulus will give the same result.

When the majority of those that are party firs Republicans finally realize that establishment candidates are more than likely the path to defeat, then the establishment is going to disappear.

I do not know of anyone that considers the"real enemy" to be the GOP. I know of a great many that consider the big government supporting liberal faction within the GOP to be a major part of the problem. These are he people that will either change the party or leave it, making it inconsequential. This number is not only stable, it is growing on a continuing basis.

I would still like to hear our opinion on why Trump became the candidate. I assume you believe that people are to stupid o learn from he mistakes of the past and return to the status quo indefinably. They may for a while, but will leave it again in grater numbers . This has happened before also. The process takes time. In my opinion, Trump getting the nomination is proof of this turn of events.

guy faulkes said...

your opinion,not our opinion.

Johnny Rico said...

And still nothing from the local Watauga County Republican Party. Does the party flee Trump like their overseers Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnel? Or do they stand beside him against tyranny? Doubt we'll get an answer.