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Monday, April 24, 2017

Watauga County Threatened With Lawsuit Over Voter Rolls

 
Judicial Watch has sent notice of violation threatening to sue counties in 11 states where the number of registered voters exceeds the number of voting-age citizens. They asked the states to "conduct or implement a systematic, uniform, nondiscriminatory program to remove from the list of eligible voters the names of persons who have become ineligible to vote by reason of a change of residence, death or a disqualifying criminal conviction." The states are also asked to remove from voter registration lists "noncitizens who have registered to vote unlawfully."

Watauga County is one of the counties named.  Newsmax

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

What is the priority of conservatives assuring all citizens have the opportunity to vote or purging voter rolls of citizens who recently moved? The poor move more than wealthier citizens.
Republicans don't believe in representative government but prefer an authoritarian, Christian Theocracy of Oligarchs to a free society.
Republicans consistently lose on issues of voter suppression and constitutionality of their voter suppression laws.

guy faulkes said...

One can only have one place of residence. N.C. voter laws indicate that a voter can be removed from the list if there is evidence that he does not intend to live district permanently. As N.C. laws also require one to update their address on their driver's license within 30 days (I believe) , would this constitute circumstantial evidence that the move was not intended to be permanent?

How about some means of checking to see if people that have recently moved are still registered to vote at their old address?

Anonymous said...

Republican voter suppression is targeted at University Students, Minorities, the poor and seniors.

Republicans have NO evidence students who have moved back to their home communities or taken a job in a different community after graduation vote in Watauga County. It simply doesn't happen. It's hard enough to get young people to vote once. Democrats in cheating in an election, we want free and fair elections and we want ALL Republican, ALL Democrats and Independents to have easy access to the polls.
The same mentality wanting to suppress the voting rights of Students, minorities and Democratic Precincts are the same bigots who believed in a poll tax and test for minorities during the Jim Crow Era.
The Republican base has regressed to the Jim Crow mentality of racism and bigotry.

Anonymous said...

What evidence proves intention?

Anonymous said...

Courts have consistently ruled against the unconstitutional attempts by NC Republican legislature to suppress the voting rights of the minority's access to the the polls.
The courts have ruled against Republican voter suppression.

guy faulkes said...

"The courts have ruled against Republican voter suppression."

If so, that is good news; as it would be if they ruled against voter fraud (mostly Democratic) as per state law.

guy faulkes said...

The law says change your address to the current location. If you do not do that, it is only logical to assume you still regard the old location on your driver's license as your residence. After all, your driver's license is your primary form of identification.

Anonymous said...

Logical?

Anonymous said...

Guy

This is not opinion but NC Requirements to register to vote in NC.

"What information do I need to register to vote?

To verify your identity, you must provide your birth date and your NC driver’s license (or DMV non-operator’s ID card) number, if you have one. If not, provide the last four digits of your Social Security number. If you do not have a SSN or NC license, you will need to present another form of identification, either when you mail in the form or when you first vote. Acceptable forms of ID include (1) a photo ID from any business, government, or nonprofit (including a student ID), or (2) any one of the following documents, with your name and current residential address:

A utility bill from an electric, water, gas, phone, or cable company.
A bank statement or bank-card statement.
A paycheck or pay stub.
Any license, registration, permit, invoice, check, letter, or any other document from a local, state, or federal government agency.
NOTE: Intentionally lying on a voter registration form is a felony – do not give incorrect information."

Anonymous said...

Guy

More factual knowledge for you.

"Who can register to vote?

To register to vote, you must be:

A U.S. citizen
At least 18 years old by Election Day*
A resident of the county for at least 30 days before the day of the next general election
A person who is not serving a felony sentence, including probation or parole **
* A 17 year old may register and vote in the Primary if he or she will be 18 on the day of the General Election. Pre-registration is also available for 16 and 17 year-olds. Complete the regular voter registration form and submit it to your county Board of Elections. The registration will be held in a queue and automatically processed when the voter turns of age.

** If you have been convicted of a felony (in NC or anywhere else), you are eligible to register in North Carolina after you complete all parts of your sentence, including probation and parole. Students or members of the military living away from home and people in jail on misdemeanor charges are all eligible to register to vote. For more details, please see our Who Can Vote section."

Anonymous said...

Guy

More factual voting information for you.

"Can I register if I’m in jail?

If you are serving a felony sentence, you cannot register or vote until you have completed the terms of your sentence, including probation and parole. After that, you can register like any other citizen.

If you are in jail awaiting charges or trial, or if you are serving a sentence on misdemeanor charges, you have the right to register and to vote. (You have not lost your citizenship rights.) You should follow the same instructions on registering to vote as anyone else, keeping these special address considerations in mind since you will have to select a mail-in registration option:

It is important to provide an address where your mail will be accepted and received. If you give an address and your voter card is returned to the Board of Elections as undeliverable, you may not be able to vote.
If you have a home address where you still receive mail, even if it is in a different county, use that as your residential and mailing address when you fill out the registration form. You will need to mail your registration form to the Board of Elections in that county; this is the same Board where you will send your Absentee Ballot request form when the time comes to vote.
As an alternative, you can use the jail’s address where you receive mail and mail your completed registration form to the Board of Elections in the same county as the jail; this is the same Board where you will send your Absentee Ballot request form when the time comes to vote.
Your voter card will be mailed to the address that you put down as your mailing address. If you have not received a voting card within three weeks, you can search your registration status online or contact the Board of Elections. You will vote using an Absentee Ballot in the county you mailed your registration form to."

Reader said...

Lib, you just don't understand do you? If you own numerous homes and pay your electric bill/water bill in different states...you could get away with voting in different states. Maybe I'm missing the point here or maybe not...I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

Reader

That's theoretically possible but not a problem effecting election outcomes . Suppressing the voting rights, civil rights and constitutional rights of qualified voters is an actual problem which the courts have recognized. Voter fraud is a conservative lie, it's not been a problem as there were only 30 documented cases in twelve years of voting nationally and no evidence any election out come was ever effected.
The above is the law in NC.
I also remind you the above applies to ALL voters.

guy faulkes said...

Reader, you have to understand that Goofus and liberals like him have no comprehension of the concept of logic. They do not understand it. Unfortunately, trying to explain it to them is as impossible as it is to explain color to someone that has been blind since birth. It is only to be expected that Goofus does not consider that the laws governing driver's licenses also reflect on a person's contention of his place of residence. If the claim is not consistent, then there is or should be a fatal flaw in the voter registration process because the registration process uses the driver's license as the highest form of proof in order to register.

Your point about using a bill for identification is 100% correct. As a matter of fact, years ago when Blowing Rock was having an election about allowing the sale of beer in restaurants, proponents of the idea packed rental houses with ten or so students for a month an a half before the election in order for them to qualify to vote in a very closely contested issue. It worked.

guy faulkes said...

Maybe I should add that these students went back to their dorm rooms after the election. It is doubtful any driver's licenses were updated. This is why a valid Voter I.D. should be required.

Anonymous said...

Guy

What year was that Blowing Rock Elections story?

You have no factual evidence vote are voting twice because it's not happening.

Reader said...

The Charlotte Observer had an article stating 508 ineligible to vote, did in "fact" vote. Mostly felons. You have way too many questions to know any facts.

Anonymous said...

Readers

What is that percentage of total voters, how many were republicans and how would a voter ID law change that?

Sarkazein said...

This August, Moschella's name came up in a sweep of voter registration records by the New York Daily News, which found that he and 46,000 other New Yorkers were registered to vote in both Florida and New York. Moschella also had the bad luck to answer the phone when the News reporter, Russ Buettner, called. So, his name appeared in the paper's Aug. 21 story revealing that in the 2000 election between 400 and 1,000 of these double-registrants voted in both states.
Other investigations revealed similar results elsewhere. The Orlando Sentinel found that 68,000 Florida voters are also registered in Georgia or North Carolina (the only two states it checked), 1,650 of whom voted twice in 2000 or 2002. The Kansas City Star discovered 300 "potential" cases of individual voter fraud, including Kansans voting in Missouri and St. Louisans voting in both the city and the surrounding suburbs. "I probably shouldn't have voted in Kansas," a Kansas City businesswoman named Lorraine Goodrich told the paper, owning up to the offense. "That was a mistake. Whoops! Oh my God, I'm going to get in so much trouble, aren't I?"
-SLATE.COM

guy faulkes said...

Goofus, I do not remember the exact year. I did not say anyone voted twice. They were illegally registered because they had two addresses listed as their place of residence, one with the DMV and the other with the Board of Elections. Pay attention.

What they did would not have been technically wrong if the had changed their address with the DMV and then changed it back. Most liberals are to lazy to take the trouble.

Reader, Goofus is just a troll. His posts mean nothing, but he is fun to play with.

Anonymous said...

Reader

"Prosecutors in Catawba County have already decided not to charge a woman who impersonated her dead mother at the polls.

That woman – whose name has been redacted in the report – told investigators in an email that her 89-year-old mother was a “tremendous Donald Trump fan” who died on Oct. 26 before she could vote for her preferred presidential candidate."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article145971264.html#storylink=cpy

Anonymous said...

Guy

Read the requirements from the State board of elections, is says nothing about your eligibility to vote matching the DMV information. You do not need to show ID to vote unless it's you first time voting or same day registration and voting.

Read the NC SBOE website.

Anonymous said...

Audits and reviews are revealing ineligible voters having cast ballots in recent elections. What is it, over 500 in NC recently? And don't forget the 800 or so in Virginia and whatever the number was in Minnesota....1675 was it?

But, keep in mine, these inproper ballots are the low hanging fruit. These are ballots case by convicted felons (not eligible to vote) and, in some cases, non citizens. These are the easy ones to catch after the fact. But how do you find people that voted under another persons name? Unless the other person shows up to complain - or is later found to have been dead at the time....it's too late to catch them. This type of fraud must be exposed at the time of voting or else it's pretty much too late.

There have been a number of elections where a candidate one by a very few votes....one or two fraudulent votes might have made the difference.

Dems, of course, count on non citizens, dead people, convicted felons, out of jurisdiction voters and fraudulent votes to win the few elections they are able to win.

Anonymous said...

You have to ask how a utility bill can indicate that someone is a resident and, more importantly, a citizen. Allowing a same day registrant to register and vote on the same day is pure stupidity. When you find out that the utility bill holder is a felon, a non citizen, or a citizen of another jurisdiction with a rental property here, he has alread voted and his vote cannot be identified from the pile of others already counted.

I wonder if Dems would win ANY elections that were totally above board!

guy faulkes said...

Goofus, you keep proving my point about logic. Look up the word consistency. If your address is not the same in both places, you have violated a state law concerning one or the other. It is a valid point to challenge the vote of a person doing this.

Reader said...

Lib, article didn't say which party. Doesn't matter to me which party they voted for...what's important, it happens. It's not easy to admit but it is easy to keep making excuses.

All the information the government has on us, you'd think they could have a system to look a person up to see if they qualify to vote. Parolees, child molesters and felons should be on a list in front of each and every worker at the polls. That's public knowledge. Instead of them requesting a utility bill, why not ask for a current rental payment receipt. Landlords could be required to put an address on them.

Wolf's Head said...

This is why voter ID is so important.

Your ID will show your residency, therefore where you can LEGALLY vote.

This is why lefties hate it.

If someone wants to vote here then they can have their ID show that they are legal residents, such as college students or other transients.

Anonymous said...

Wolf,

Do the math, if all 500 Voters voted under someone else's name which only one did, that's 0.012% not at all a big deal. Voter ID does nothing for absentee ballots, which is the more likely to be abused.
The Voter ID laws have factually been proven in court to be an attempt by unethical Conservative groups to suppress the vote of students and minorities.

Johnny Rico said...

The liberal jackal left supports voting rights of illegal aliens over American citizens. Enough said. When there is even a question that illegal aliens are voting or have the right to vote, America should be up in arms. Sadly, like the liberals who spit on returning Vietnam soldiers, they now spit on conservative Americans in general. Is it because liberal jsckals are threatened with enlightened thinking (freedom, personal responsibility, etc) or because they are lazy and afraid of having to do something for a change?

LOL

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

guy faulkes said...

Goofus may e right about the courts ruling in error over voter ID. They are comprised of liberal judges wanting to legislate from the bench.

It is possible Trump will break up the 9th. Circuit Court of Appeals because it is so large and so heavily favors California over the other states in the district. It apparently has a record of being overruled 80% of the time when its judgements are appealed.

The process of checks and balances affect the judicial branch as well as the executive and legislative. This is good because the 4th. Circuit Court needs some adjustment also as peer their disregard of the Second Amendment. They tried to gut the Heller decision.

If the 500 votes Goofus ignores ere the deciding votes in a close race and they went against what he wanted, he would be squealing a different tune. What can you expect from someone that is wrong100% of the time?

Blogger said...

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