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Saturday, August 8, 2009

Only 25% Agree With Pelosi That Health Insurers are 'Villains'


In their desperation to find someone to demonize, the Democrats latest demonization was the insurance companies. A current Rasmussen Poll reveals they are wasting their time because only 25% Agree With Pelosi That Health Insurers are 'Villains'.

55 comments:

USS Rodger Young said...

The main villians are the politicians. After getting hammered at town hall meeting, it seems as if they would realize that. I was perusing You Tube, and noticed one guy who asked a Congressmen if his health care would be affected by Hussein Obama's plan. The Congressman, obviously caught off guard, sure had a stupid look on his face. Almost as stupid as Biker Lard after the bashing I gave him!!! LOL.

If any of you are wondering why I am pounding away at Watauga Watch and Biker Lard, it is because I am banned from that site for asking too many tough questions. Sure, I might be a little abrasive, but that is the only thing liberal socialist sheep understand. At any rate, i enjoy pounding anyone who is stupid enough to buy into the liberal mindset, including health care. Anyone- Republican, Democrat,Independent, Liberal, stupid (Biker Lard) or anyone else, wanna take a shot at the title?

How about on the 2nd Amendment? Like health care, the liberals want to tear away our right to choose. I should be able to choose whether or not I want to buy healthcare or a gun through the mail. None of anyone's business. If you believe it is your business, then you are a Nazi. Please send this to the Hussein Obama citizen-spy website so he can pound sand. Idiots.

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

Let's go to Klandathu

USS Rodger Young said...

Biker Lard,

You out there? Wanna come out and plaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!!

Sarkazein said...

My Saturday evening just became exciting!

Gregg said...

The libs around here are laying low lately, can't say I blame them. They are being asked to defend wacky stuff. Most people realize that big insurance, big oil, big pharmaceutical and every other profit making endeavor are essential to our way of freedom. Pelosi and Obama are playing the politics of fear by making big business evil and profit an ignoble motive. The rich should be thanked instead of demonized. Not only that, the poor that choose to stay that way generation after generation need a boot in their ass. I don't care what their color is, don't want to know.

Just imagine the dynamics of a society that didn't resent it's fellow man for achieving. Politicians that didn't fan the flames of class envy of which nothing good can possibly come. Big business that could be proud of it's legal, ethical and extreme profits of which much good comes. Poor liberals that didn't expect a handout. Conservatives that weren't afraid to tell it.

USS Rodger Young said...

Any liberals or socialists want to argue about Pelosi's remarks? Funny how she mentions swastikas, however when a conservative says the same thing about her, or or party, she/they cry foul!!!!

Liberal POV said...

Roger Young

Tell us about your insurance. Do you like Blogger have a taxpayer funded health care plan or is your plan to not be covered by insurance?
I notice a lot of folks at these phony protest are old enoung to recieve medicare.

Anonymous said...

If Congress was serious about reducing healthcare costs, we would be hearing about interstate insurance sales and tort reform, not government takeover.

Blogger said...

Liberal. Those older people know what is going on. Obama has asked for a ½ Trillion dollars to take from Medicare. Also, older people know there are not enough doctors now who will see them on Medicare and there will never be enough doctors to go around for all the people to be added on Obamacare. Older people are no fools. They know of the end of life rationing problem in Europe and Canada. They know that someone will soon be making a decision as to who is worth keeping alive and who is worth letting die. OF COURSE THEY ARE AT THOSE MEETINGS. THEIR VERY LIVES ARE AT STAKE!

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

I don't usually do this but you're so outrageous with this.

Bull shit! What lies!

Where are you hearing such nonsense?

What about young families are they not important?

What is not allowed in Canada? You're Republicans special interest are lying. FOLLOW THE MONEY!

Blogger get off the industry sites and go to some sites that don't have a self interest to sell you.

guy faulkes said...

While at dinner with several friends the other evening, the conversation turned to health care. One of my friends made some interesting comments.

He said that he wondered if the liberals that were proposing a health care system that would result in the rationing of care to the old, the very young, or those that have little chance of being cured had thought about the possible consequences to their actions. His point was if a person needs a procedure to be preformed immediately or he will die and he has to wait six moths, the government has put him under a death sentence (leaving him in a position with little to lose). If a person is told he is so old it would be better for him to take a pain pill than receive a pacemaker, he is under a death sentence. What if this person is your husband, wife, mother, or father? What if your baby or grand baby is denied health care that could save his life because the odds of recovery are not very good? Again, your baby is under a death sentence.

My friend's point is that in this country many people still feel it is not only permissible to respond to a deadly threat with deadly force, but that it is a moral duty to do so. In other words those that try to kill someone or their family can expect to suffer a retaliation in kind. Those that have caused health care to be withheld may be at risk.

This is a disturbing proposition. I have never thought of the possibility of what amounts to a civil war over health care. Any thoughts?

Sarkazein said...

POV-

You don't usually do what? You say informed people are quoting erroneous sites, yet you will not respond to your disproved repeated comment about the USA being ranked 38th from a previous post.

http://wataugarepubs.blogspot.com/2009/08/guy-faulkes-discovers-uncovered-obama.html

Liberal POV said...

Guy and GOP

"He said that he wondered if the liberals that were proposing a health care system that would result in the rationing of care to the old, the very young, or those that have little chance of being cured had thought about the possible consequences to their actions. His point was if a person needs a procedure to be preformed immediately or he will die and he has to wait six moths, the government has put him under a death sentence (leaving him in a position with little to lose). If a person is told he is so old it would be better for him to take a pain pill than receive a pacemaker, he is under a death sentence. What if this person is your husband, wife, mother, or father? What if your baby or grand baby is denied health care that could save his life because the odds of recovery are not very good? Again, your baby is under a death sentence.

My friend's point is that in this country many people still feel it is not only permissible to respond to a deadly threat with deadly force, but that it is a moral duty to do so. In other words those that try to kill someone or their family can expect to suffer a retaliation in kind. Those that have caused health care to be withheld may be at risk."

There's a movie staring Densil Washington with a plot similar, but it's the for profit system we have today that will and does ration health care to increase profit and CEO income.

The things you fear are now happening with our current system and you damn fools are buying the propaganda of those doing the rationing for profit and greed. What fools!

Guy and GOP get off the industry sites and learn something. The information is out there.

For the hell of it watch Michael Moore's movie "Sicko" Then disprove what he's points out in the movie.

guy faulkes said...

POV, Michael Moore shares some attributes with you and BB. He skews the facts, ignores facts that do not agree with his mind set, and refuses to look at other points of view. If the three of you did not do that, maybe you could make some sort of reasonable point to support your views. As it is, no thinking person trusts you. As the old saying goes, you could not be trusted in an outhouse with a muzzle on.

A case in point is the manner in which you try to ignore Sark's questions. Prove what you say abut rationing for"profit and greed" In order for any one to make any money on a medical procedure, then the procedure has to be preformed. How do explain anything different?

Most of the court cases of which I am aware involving critical health care issues seem to be where someone wants to take someone off of the life support that is keeping them alive. Not even the mass murdering serial killer that preform abortions are deterred by the courts.

oatz said...

Ah the aforementioned "expert" Michael Moore, is this the same Mike Moore who expounds on the poor little oppressed union guys in Rodger & Me? The same Mike Moore who used Canadian non union production staff to edit his pro union movie. Or better yet the same Mike Moore who moved his production studios out of unionized Michigan and Hollywood to avoid the higher costs like Health Insurance. Is this the same Mike Moore who destroyed the marsh front at his Gross Point home to install a beach. A typical Liberal Michael Moore do as I say not as I do. Next.

Blogger said...

Liberal, My guess is that you read mostly the government controlled media. However, if you can get off them for a minute, you can google the rest of the country's take.

Seniors alarmed

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Once again FOLLOW THE MONEY. Who has paid for your misinformation?

There will be real medicare savings as Madicare now subsidizes much of the uninsured. That dosen't mean you won't still get better coverage than most people with private for profit insurance.

I take it you like having the security of government run medicare.

You are being lied to and you're silly enough to believe the nonsence. Get off the industry sites. See what the rest of the world is doing.

We (The United States ) spend 16% of our GNP on health care to be 35th in life expectance and 38th in infant mortality. Not a good deal!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MedicareFactSheetFinal/

Liberal POV said...

Oatz and Guy

Lets not debate whether Michael Moore is or is not an asshole but lets debate the issues he brings to the public.

Show me where he has it wrong?

Have you seen Sicko?

Why would a for profit Insurance program that rations health care to increase CEO income be better than one that is focused on preventive health care?
Is it not in all our interest to have a healthy society?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

" Most of the court cases of which I am aware involving critical health care issues seem to be where someone wants to take someone off of the life support that is keeping them alive. Not even the mass murdering serial killer that preform abortions are deterred by the courts."

Guy I can only think of one case where this happened and most of American citizens believe a spouse has the right to stop life support without fighting the government.

The woman had been brain dead for two years or more years and the bills were a waste of health care resources.

How many cancer treatments and liver transplants are denied by insurance?

Go see how he rest of the world is dealing with this issue. We don't have to reinvent this. It's working for the rest of the world and citizens are not forced into bankruptcy by medical bills and live longer.

Get informed.

Sarkazein said...

POV- At least you don't mention Terri Schiavo's name in your statement of ignorance anymore, as everyone but you seems to know she was not brain-dead until after the State ordered her starved to death.
Your intellectual cowardice in not commenting regarding the WHO ranking is a dangerous combination... ignorance and intellectual cowardice.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Terri Schiavo's case is a perfect example of political whores and GOP wanting to control our lives and how we die.

Terri Schiavo should have been allow to die much sooner and if you will open your mind you will learn removing a feeding tube to allow someone like Terri Schiavo to pass is compassionate and peaceful. Use your google research engine to learn the details and become informed.

What sort of people want to keep a loved one around after all quality of life is long gone.

Do you support using taxpayer to fund life support as long as technically possible?

I think you will lose a lot of conservatives here.

oatz said...

President Obama said Monday that efforts to change the immigration system would be a major focus for his administration only next year, after other major priorities were accomplished, including passage of a new health care system.

"It's very important for us to sequence these big initiatives in a way where they don't all just crash at the same time," he said, according to The Associated Press.

Sarkazein said...

One would have to be close to brain-dead to believe starving someone to death is a peaceful and compassionate death. I am amazed by your eagerness to showcase your ignorance. Most people who are not brain-dead would want to be less obvious.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/46740/death_by_starvation.html?cat=5

Even Kavorkien didn't starve people to death.

Sarkazein said...

Here's a thought POV, starve the terrorists to death once they are captured, starve the death-row inmates to death and save the carbon footprint.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Do you support using taxpayer to fund life support as long as technically possible?


If so why? Would you want it for yourself?

I saw my own grandmother on a feeding tube for two years during which time she had zero quality of life and knew no one or anything. She was totally unconscious during the entire time. We had to keep her tongue the roof of her mouth from drying and cracking. Why would you want to put anyone through that?

What right does the government have to put families and dying people through such an ordeal?

Is this the conservative position on death?

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal POV said:

"Tell us about your insurance. Do you like Blogger have a taxpayer funded health care plan or is your plan to not be covered by insurance?
I notice a lot of folks at these phony protest are old enoung to recieve medicare."

Liberal socialist POV,

Why is it you ask questions when you aren't willing to answer any? Oh wait, that's right, you operate in the liberal world of hypocrisy. Since my convictions are easily defended, I will answer your rather pedantic questions.

I pay for health insurance. I have a rather healthy deductable to meet, however my insurance has helped pay for one major surgery and the usual bumps, bruises, and ailments. I see no problem with my insurance as is, and it is my choice whether or not to have it. Now I could start ranting and raving about paying high decuctables, co-pays, and out of pocket expenses like a liberal such as yourself, however I realize that the world owes me nothing and I shouldn't be entitled to anything I cannot pay for. I work hard and pay for my health insurance like it is supposed to be. Perhaps you should try doing for yourself for once and quit blaming others for your shortcomings. Cease being your brother's keeper and worry about yourself. LOL!!!

And please enlighten us with why you think you are entitled to have the rest of us hard working souls pay for your visits to the doctor.

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

Dan

And

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal POV said:

"subsidizes much of the uninsured"

This line is very amusing coming from the liberal socialist sheep of an amoeboid POV. You are worried about subsidizing the uninsured? What? If you are worried about that, then why is it you will never answer to the fact that American citizens subsidize 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS each year? Hard to answer to that isn't it? LOL!!!

I heard in the news that a van crashed in Deep Gap today, killing a couple of criminals (illegal aliens)inside. The rest were transported to local hospitals. Repeat this hundreds of times a day across the United States and, yep, you guessed it, we are being bled dry by a socialist controlled government who not only wants to pay for these criminals (illegal aliens), they want you and I to pay even more to do it!!!!

Amazing. You will never hear a liberal socialist sheep like POV say a word about the illegal alien situation though. Too hard to come up with a patented lie when confronted with so absolute a truth!! LOL!!!!

Now you know why the Williamsons blocked me from Watauga Watch. I pounded the liberals daily for about 3 weeks. They ran out of things to say and tried ignoring me, but that didn't work either. In the end they did what most fascists do - eliminated the problem by force. LOL!!!!!

Your ole pal

USS Rodge Young

Liberal POV said...

USS Roger

Are you really supporting the campaign for universal health care by arguing from the most absurd logic?

What kind of sick mind would let fellow human beings injured in an accident go untreated?
You maybe an American citizen but I will take one of those undocumented workers as a neighbor over you any day.

Is this the conservative position to have prove of citizenship before receiving medical treatment?

How about the children in the accident that are American citizens?

When did you become so bitter?

Sarkazein said...

POV-

The bitterness will grow as ignorant people such as yourself, armed with a vote, empower the government to take at gunpoint, more and more of other peoples earnings and liberties and give them to people who didn't earn it.
Charities and families will suffer and are even now. Eventually, as more and more people become nourished only by the government teet, a civil war will happen. Any Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, will be a thing of the past. Liberalism will have been the cause of the fall of the USA.
The weight of the government will sink the ship.
The more the government is given the power to mandate by ignorant voters, the less chance it has of surviving. Since the Civil War, this country has never been so divided. The Left wants to make everyone slaves to the State. It will not happen without a 2nd civil war. And your ignorance along with your sisterhood of weaklings will be the final losers after all have lost the greatest country on Earth.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Few Americans are going to side with the mind set of you, Roger or Oatz.

You folks represent a bitter fringe of angry old white men. The demographics are not on your side.

guy faulkes said...

No, POV, we represent the majority of people in this country that want the government to stay out of health care and the rest of our personal lives.

guy faulkes said...

No, POV, we represent the majority of people in this country that want the government to stay out of health care and the rest of our personal lives.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

No, your wrong as usual. Do you think the American people want to give up Medicare?

guy faulkes said...

They will not have a choice. It is a government run program that is going broke and we do not have the money to further subsidize it. If it does not fail now, it will later when we have to pay for the money the government has borrowed.

Blogger said...

POV, You need to get out more often. For example, go sit on the bench at Walmart and engage real Americans in conversation.

Your party was elected by special interest fringe groups. A lot of them will never even bother to vote again. This past election was a fluke with a lot of people thinking they were voting in American Idol.

Blogger said...

USS Rodger. Now see what you have done. Guy just posted the same thing twice.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent to keep you and the walmart crowd as misinformed as possible.

I ask you do you really believe the American people want to do away with medicare?

The current GOP is the party of small minds, best represented by the likes of Rush, Dick Cheney, and Ann Coulter all angry white men with very small mindedness. Sark, Guy and Roger represent that small mindedness here. Small mindednesss will be your label and may win in Ky, South Carolina, and TN but not the nation.

At best they will get you 30% in a national election.

Sure the men and women in your peer group at Walmart may be in agreement, but how many of them will be voting in 2012? Do they want to give up Medicare?

vuy faulkes said...

POV, you will never understand that we are informed. It is your blind belief in propaganda put forth by those such as Michael Moore that make your opinions trivial. You see, we do listen to Moore and you. We then compare this information with that we gather from other sources. Weighting the facts that back up this different information let us conclude consistently that you and Mr. Moore tend to be full of male bovine fecal matter.

guy faulkes said...

My apologies for double clicking and posting twice. I also typed guy vuy. This is not my day for manual dexterity.

oatz said...

In another sign of the urgency gripping the pro-health care reform camp, billionaire George Soros has pledged to sink $5 million into the fight, the group getting the money confirmed.

Soros - whose operation carefully guards the privacy of such donations - made the pledge to Health Care For America Now, the leading coalition of pro-reform groups, unions and providers, HCAN chief Richard Kirsch confirmed in an email that was forwarded to me. ...

The Soros pledge is noteworthy, because both sides will seize on it. The right will say it shows the real astroturfing is coming from the pro-reform side - billionaire bogeyman Soros is bankrolling this fight!

The left will cite the donation to demand that HCAN show real results. Some on the left, such as blogger Jane Hamsher, have been asking why heavily-bankrolled HCAN hasn't been able to secure more commitments from Dem members of Congress to stand firm behind a public option.

However, that group may run afoul of Rahm Emanuel and the White House. Emanuel has demanded that HCAN and other advocacy groups focus their sights on Republicans and stop attacking vulnerable Democrats - which, in this case, would be those who have shown great reluctance to get on board with ObamaCare.

Liberal POV said...

Oatz

How about the fact rather the who is for and against?

What are you afraid of?
What lies do you believe?

Why do other countries seem to do so well with what you fear?

USS Rodger Young said...

Blogger said:

"USS Rodger. Now see what you have done. Guy just posted the same thing twice."

Blogger,

Yeah, I know. Well, Guy seems to be a good guy so we ought to let him slide. Besides, Lib. POV and the others wouldn' know how to answer to a superior post like Guy's anyway!!!

Now, let's have a little fun.........

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal POV said:

"Are you really supporting the campaign for universal health care by arguing from the most absurd logic?"

This statement is indicative of the liberal socialist sheep mindset. You are confusing facts with logic. Logic is the quantitative analysis of a given data set (ideas, facts, opinions, etc.) that results in a prefered or expected philosopical conclusion. In other words, liberal socialist sheep logic, such as yours, often uses flawed, biased or inconclusive data sets to determine equally inconclusive illogical outcomes. Since you obviously aren't following me, I will give you an example.

Gun control. Liberal socialists will typically say that guns are dangerous, lethal, and result in dead people. Their obvious logical outcome then, is to outlaw weapons. The philosophy of their logic highlights the lack of reasoning and prudence associated with such an outcome. Trampling of civil rights, good uses of guns, and overall safety statistics are ignored.

Now that we have seperated how and why your logic is in fact illogical, it is very easy to see my post is not grounded in philosophy or logic at all. My post is grounded in verifiable fact which is always superior to logic (illogic in your case) and philosophy. Illegal aliens are an unecessary burden on our society. This is fact. Illegal aliens were hurt in a van wreck in Deep Gap. This is fact. Said criminals (illegal aliens) were taken to the hospital. This is a fact. Said illegal aliens will recieve top rate medical care that you and I pay for. This is fact.

Your LOGIC says this should be so because you THINK it should occur. Again, you philosophy is flawed when measured against considerable fact. LOL!! That was easy!!!

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

Grady

PSS I have some more special posts for you!! LOL!!!

USS Rodger YOUNG said...

Liberal POV said:

"What kind of sick mind would let fellow human beings injured in an accident go untreated?
You maybe an American citizen but I will take one of those undocumented workers as a neighbor over you any day."

Liberal socialist sheep POV,

Again, you are relying on marred logic and corrupted philosophy to come to a conclusion. My "sick" mind as you say, may in fact be fully functioning and in the here and now. Using some of your own logic, how do we know you aren't the sick one by placing criminals (illegal aliens) ahead of American citizens in terms of recieving quality health care? An American citizen owning assets will be hounded to the ends of the earth to pay up. Illegal aliens walk away without so much as a howdy doody. Next time and American Citizen is in a serious auto accident, why don't you ask them about hospital compensation.

Why is what you think the "right" way to think? Are you morally superior to anyone else in this world? Some of your fellow liberals regularly do some pretty sick things you know. Allowing genocide to occur in Sudan is pretty sick, isn't it? So why is Hussein Obama not labeled as sick for allowing thousands of people to be killed or maimed in that cesspool of a country? Or what of the victims in our larger cities who are made victims by a power happy government who dares not give them the ability to defend themselves against common criminals? Isn't this type of government sick also? You support that ideal don't you? This automatically makes you sick, right?

Now that you are starting to see your many grievous errors, you might want to reconsider who is sick. As for not allowing the illegal aliens medical care, I want to remove the illegal alien from the equation entirely so we are not saddled with unecessary and ultimately unproductive health care costs. This is, again, fact. Remove ALL the illegal aliens from our country so we aren't faced with "automatic" entitlement programs for criminals (illegal aliens). How is this sick?

LOL!!

Your probably about ready to burst with frustration at being called out yet again. Tell Pammy and Dr Williamson that I said hello. It were these same questions that lead to their fascist prohibition of essential truths!!!! LOL!!!!!

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

USS Rodge said...

Liberal POV said:

"I will take one of those undocumented workers as a neighbor over you any day."

Liberal POV,

Really? Border Patrol Agent Rosas killers have not been identified have they. How do you know they aren't your neighbors? Or the hundreds of thousands of criminal aliens and gang elements who live and roam our communities at will. Take a look at North Carolina's most wanted and see how many are illegal aliens. Most Americans would not like illegal aliens living next to them. The cultural differences are usually too much for even the most tolerant of Americans. This is why cultures tend to retain homogeny amongst themselves. Try living in inner city Chicago or DC if you don't believe that statement.

Of course, most liberals advocate living next to illegal aliens or inner city blacks, but would never do it themselves. This is what is known as HYPOCRISY. Wanting others to do what you aren't willing to do.

Remember the draft dodging, dope smoking, dull eyed slug of a womanizing President Bill Clinton? Remember how he supported busing and the "merging" of blacks and whites in the south? Fast forward to the White House years and tell me if Chelsea was "merged" into the DC school system? Uh huh. Hypocrisy at its ugly best wasn't it? But then again, Chelsea was made to atone for her transgressions by writing the infamous essay entitled "Why I am ashamed to be white". I can think of a thousand ways she could have answered that concocted, liberal love-crush topic. A good answer might have been, "Because my parents are a bunch of crooked, hypocritical, thieves who stepped all over the black man on their way to tearing down America". LOL!!!

At any rate, why not live what you preach POV. It is evident you have no such intentions as you are content to sit in your quaint mountain home and dictate how others should do what you are unwilling to. LOL!!!!!!!!!

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

PSS Just keeping it real for you and the other summer of love muffins

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal Socialist POV said:

"Is this the conservative position to have prove of citizenship before receiving medical treatment?

How about the children in the accident that are American citizens?

When did you become so bitter?"


Liberal POV,

Aht aht aaaahhhhh. Now, now, don't go getting illogical on us again. Since when has medical treatment vs citizenship been a conservative position? This is your contrived illusion of what a conservative position is. If your child were at the emergency room with a serious injury, and the doctor was treating a criminal (illegal alien) who should't be here in the first place (for free nontheless), wouldn't you think your child should recieve treatment before the person who shouldn't be here does? Uh huh. Not such a conservative position is it? LOL!!! Your such an idiot, you know?

The children in the accident who are American citizens. Do you mean the "anchor babies" who are being born by the thousands every month in America? You know, the babies you and I pay for to be born. Why do these babies recieve free medical treatment for being born of illegal alien criminals and yet you and I have to pay for ours? Mmmmmmmm, and who has a sick mind if you think this practice is ok? Go to the Watauga County Health Department and see this practice in full effect. Ask the doctors over there (like I did recently) if the criminals (illegal aliens) pay for their medical care. When they tell you no and that said illegal aliens are on a "program" what will you think then (while you are paying for yours). LOL!! Hard questions. Hard questions.

Maybe call Pammy and Dr Williamson and see if Watauga Watch can answer them for you. LOL!!!!!!!

As for being bitter - there you go again with illogical conclusions. I am concerned that folks like you are finally going to ruin our once great nation. If I was bitter about something, it would be that folks like you may have figured out how to procreate. Then again that might be a good thing though - my kids will have someone to boss around. LOL!!!!!

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

Samantha

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal POV,

Finally, I was wondering why you didn't answer my post. You know, the questions I asked you about illegal aliens and such. Or the below sentence:

"And please enlighten us with why you think you are entitled to have the rest of us hard working souls pay for your visits to the doctor."


As usual, liberals such as yourself are full of what we should do, but you don't think YOU should have to do anything. LOL!!!!

Hard questions, hard questions.........


Gary

USS R. Y. said...

You've got some answering to do Liberal POV. LOL!!!!!!

Liberal POV said...

ole Pal Roger


I want to hear how the Conservatives are going to remove 12 to 20 million undocumented residents of the United States? How long do you think that will take?


Remember it will not just be liberals like me fighting you. Many families are now intergrated with mixed marriages with those here without documents. Churches have members who have no legal statis. Employers have many highly skilled employees who need legal clarity.

The anchor babies are American citizens with as much and as many rights as you have. That is a fact not opinion check it out. What about all the Conservative family values? Do conservatives want to split up families?

By the way your opinions don't become fact when you blog.

We do need immigration reform, but fools like you decrease the chance of that happening.

If you like what's happening keep doing the same thing. This is a forty year old problem.

Liberal POV said...

Roger

"And please enlighten us with why you think you are entitled to have the rest of us hard working souls pay for your visits to the doctor."

As usual you don't know what your bloging about.

I have always had health insurance but believe health care should be like Public Schools, police or fire protection available to all as needed paid for by all American Citizens just like the military.

guy faulkes said...

POV, having talked with some agents of the Border Patrol, I can answer your question about how long it would take to deport the majority of illegal aliens. About two years. This requires several things to happen.

They would have to have the backing of the administration to do their jobs and enforce laws already on the books.

They would use the fact that it is unlikely for large amounts of people to congregate at malls and shopping centers with no or very bad English skills as probable cause to investigate to see if these people are citizens. They would also use this factor to investigate the parents of children that are attending public schools that cannot speak English.

They would investigate tips that people are illegal aliens in the work places.

They would check for illegals at such places a public health offices and welfare offices.

There are other means to numerous to mention.

The positive effect would occur well before the majority of these people are caught and deported. Once the word gets out that the laws are being enforced, the criminals using public services would cease to do so because they would eventually get caught. Without these services many of the illegals would either voluntarily go back to their country of origin or continue their life of crime in this country. Eventually they would be caught and imprisoned or deported (depending on the severity of their crimes).

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

Sounds like a plan. Just showing the US is enforcing it's laws would stop many from spending the $hundreds it costs to be smuggled across the border.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

We have the new Conservative position. Guy and Sark want a police state similar in the former Soviet Block.

So much for freedom loving conservative.

Do you folks want to dress in brown shirts and maybe an arm band. What would be a good logo for that arm band?

Conservative now against freedom, justice, and family values.

Blogger are you onboard with this silliness?

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal POV said:

"Guy and Sark want a police state similar in the former Soviet Block."

Liberal POV (lemming),

And how are Guy and Sarkazian wanting a police state by deporting criminals who shouldn't be here in the first place? Border Patrol Agent Rosas' killer is still at large. How do you know he is not living next to you? How about telling that to Agent Rosas young widow and two young children.

Then again, you were probably one of those who spit on returning servicemen during Vietnam weren't you? You talk of going back to Woodstock - I bet you would love to watch spit running down the face of our nation's brave warriors!! You make me physically sick. Anyone who would advocate such a thing is pure filth. Then again, being a fringe left liberal automatically puts you in that company.

Your ole pal - keeping it real

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal POV,

And please enlighten us with why you think you are entitled to have the rest of us hard working souls pay for your visits to the doctor.

Another very hard question of the kind that confuses folks like Dr and Mrs Williamson!!!

screamin meme said...

Liberal The following is unbelievable from one of my renters. One day, I went by one of our apartments, and he was crying, and I asked what was wrong and he said he was out of hormone pills. Dumb me, I said, I thought hormone pills were for women, to which he responded, I am having a sex change operation from man to woman and when I had a heart attack in the middle of the operation, Medicaid said, that was it, no more.

Can you believe that? The tax payers were expected to pay for things like that!

One of my renters was having her 113th operation on medicaid, plus she got loads of pain pills for free. Then when the doctor made a mistake by leaving a piece of cloth under her skin, she sued for damages. One of my renters was really ticked off when they started selling Tagamet over the counter and was no longer a prescription, so he had to pay for it himself.

Yes, these were those low income people the blogger was talking about. No, I don't have sympathy any more Many obviously afford cigarettes, and beer, big time. Most of the less fortunate are on Medicaid and are now clogging it for others in the emergency room. The last time I went, there were approximately a dozen illegals. They say they come here because they can't get free health care at home. I am losing my sympathy. So there liberal blogger.