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Monday, August 24, 2009

Reader Matt Contributes to Health Care Debate

matt has left a new comment on your post "Health Care Reform--Camel's Nose in Tent":
I read this on another blog today and thought it was pretty funny:
The United States is going to pass a health care plan:
written by a committee, whose head says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it,
signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes,
overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and
financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?

To which Sarkazein responded: That would be funny if it were not so true.

15 comments:

guy faulkes said...

One could add to this "passed by a House who's leadership had to send in political arm twisters and leg breakers to bring to heel those members of that party that were against the bill in a bipartisan manner."

I wonder if it has ever occurred to the Blue Dogs that they could always switch parties as did Senator Specter? It would certainly be to their advantage politically in the 2010 election.

Blogger said...

Guy, I have also wondered why the Blue Dogs do not go where their beliefs would logically take them.

As a Democrat once myself before that party went over the edge and before I awakened from trance. I have never understand how they stay

Liberal POV said...

Insurance Lobby Groupies

Is it the conservative position we have no problems with current US health Care?

Is it the Conservative position that the insured won't be affected by the uninsured neither be cost increases or disease transmission?

Matt is a fool who needs the Obama Health Care plan. Matt has little coverage and could be wiped out by even a minor illiness or become depend on medicaid.

Blogger you never answered the question as if Government run Medicare had ever told you what doctor to see or if they had failed to pay any medical bills? I assume the answer was no.
What would it take for the government to buy your rights to Medicare back?

Lets face it you're happy with the government run program and have never had a problem..

R T Sender said...

It's obvious that "Forced on people that don't want it" should be added to Matt's list.

guy faulkes said...

POV, if you would listen for once, you would know that we all have said there are things that need to be fixed with health care. We are smart enough to know that socialized medicine will not fix them, but would make them worse. If we can get rid of these ridiculous bill that have been proposed by the far left, then maybe we could work on things that would lower the cost of health care such as limiting the ability to file a frivolous law suit (maybe making the loser pay for all attorney fees, court costs and monetary losses incurred by the winner), let health insurance be sold on a nation wide basis to promote competition to bring down the costs instead of there being essentially state by state imposed monopolies as there are now, and letting antibiotics and maintenance medicine such as insulin and blood pressure medication be sold over the counter.

What kills your soul is that Matt refuses to let you stick your nose in his business and make his decisions for him. Blogger expects a return on the monies he has given the government in good faith to supply a service that they are now starting to welsh on. Of course he does not trust them.

You are mentally incapable of logic. You are so far on the intuitive side of the spectrum, you belong in a room covered in rubber for your own protection. Will your proposed bills pay for this treatment for you or will the dementia clause lead to your demise? We will miss you.

Blogger said...

Liberal, The vast majority are satisfied with their health care.
You do realize you want to risk destroying the best health care system in the world? For what? Best estimates there are actually only 10 million uninsured. There are many good ideas for taking care of them without destroying jobs and the economy and the health care system.

* There were 45.7 million uninsured people in the U.S. in 2007.
* Of that amount, 6.4 million are the Medicaid undercount. These are people who are on one of two government health insurance programs, Medicaid or S-CHIP, but mistakenly (intentionally or not) tell the Census taker that they are uninsured.
* Another 4.3 million are eligible for free or heavily subsidized government health insurance (again, either Medcaid or SCHIP), but have not yet signed up
* Another 9.3 million are non-citizens. I cannot break that down into documented vs. undocumented citizens.
* Another 10.1 million do not fit into any of the above categories, and they have incomes more than 3X the poverty level.
* Of the remaining 15.6 million uninsured, 5 million are adults between ages 18 and 34 and without kids.
* The remaining 10.6 million do not fit into any of the above categories.

Keith Hennesy

Sarkazein said...

POV states "Matt is a fool who needs the Obama Health Care plan. Matt has little coverage and could be wiped out by even a minor illiness or become depend on medicaid. "

Oh how did America survive? How did anyone live before the Obama.
Read the first sentence of POV's comment. He believes anyone is a fool if they need Obama-care.

BikerBard said...

Faux:
It must really burn your ass that we have a Democratic President who CAN read, and something more difficult than, "My Pet Goat." (Doesn't look like a deer caught in a headlight, either.)

guy faulkes said...

BB, I must concede your point. Obama can read very well. He cannot communicate without his teleprompter. I must also admit he does not look like a deer in the headlights. After all, a deer is a handsome creature. Mr. Obama, I am sorry to say, looks more like a piece of clay pottery that was not made very well or symmetrical. This in no way detracts from his ability to read that spin off the teleprompter. You are also correct in the fact I do not like the fact Mr. Obama is President. I would not have liked McCain as President either. Palin would have been another story.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

Deer usually have muscle in their necks also. One would hardly ever look at a deer and think of a pencil neck as I do when I see Obama.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

BB wrote: "...Democratic President who CAN read...?

Obama has been severely chastised by both sides for his exaggerated use of the TelePrompTer, yet BB uses it as an attempt to insult President Bush.
Your pick-up on that and come-back to BB was brilliant as it ties the TelePrompTer reading to BB's insult.
This is yet another example of BB being hung by his own petard. How much can one petard take?

Blogger said...

BB wrote: “It must really burn your ass that we have a Democratic President who CAN read...”
No, but I tell you who is really upset and that is Democrats at these town hall meetings who are discovering that their constituents CAN read.

They thought everyone was illiterate and that is why we needed them to make decisions for us.

There is shock and awe.

Blogger said...

Lib "Is it the conservative position we have no problems with current US health Care?"

I know no one who holds that position. Republicans, Independents and Democrats asked Congress to fix a few things such as: denial for previous conditions, portability, cost containment, and no cancellations after becoming ill.

If you had just a tiny ability to hear, you would know that the vast majority of people now say they did not sign on for a total overhaul with all the danger of unintended consequences and even breaking the whole system.

This whole debate is how the socialistic minded are using a simple request as an excuse to make the power grab they have always been waiting for.

You better hope and pray (if you do pray) that this whole thing crumbles and we can start over and do it right.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Why are you not using this space to promote the things that you think should be fixed instead of fictitious death panels silliness and anti Obama dogma?

guy faulkes said...

Why are you not using this space to promote the things that you think should be fixed instead of fictitious death panels silliness and anti Obama dogma? - POV

We have to defeat the atrocity of socialized medicine as promoted by the Obama administration before we can get on with the serious business of improving health care. We all know from information contained in the bills that the death panels are a reality. We also know that Obama is using this as issue as a means to grab power for big government socialism. He could care less about health care.