This blog,originally founded by Blogger, who is listed in Marquis Who's Who and is a recipient of the Albert Nelson Marquis Lifetime Achievement Award. He holds a theological degree and a doctorate in Counseling Psychology. Taught Psychology for 32 years and is now Professor Emeritus. Is a board-certified psychologist and was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award in his profession. Ministered as a chaplain, and pastored Baptist and Episcopal churches. Publications cover the integration of psychology and theology. Served in the Army, the Merchant Marines and the Peace Corps.

Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Letter to Kay Hagan Not to Wreck the Country

I faxed this to Senator Hagan just now:
Dear Senator Hagan,

Lately, I see your name listed among the freshman senators who have not yet become imperious. The August gatherings have revealed a political class in Washington no longer responsive to constituents.

This letter is to beg you to be one of those who will not support using the resolution process to ram the government controlled option for health care down the throats of American people.

You know that using the resolution process will be a bastardization of the system. It is corrupting to the Senate. It is starting the Senate down a slippery slope for future sessions. It will enrage Republicans and even many Independents and likely create the feelings of impotence which lead to militia forming.

And, if the slightest thing goes wrong with healthcare, especially for the senior citizens and those baby boomers on their way, your party will have no cover. Americans do not tolerate cheating, which the resolution process is in these instances.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

You do not understand what you are saying, there are a lot of us here in Watauga County, who can't get health insurance due to pre-existing conditions.

Just what would you like us to do, just go and die somewhere to satisfy your desire not to have some of your fellow Watauga County residents covered so that we can take care of ourselves?

oatz said...

It will be tough for democrats to push their nationalized health care bill through Congress with an unpopular bill, an unpopular Congress and a sinking president. But, they're not backing down. Despite their past failings this year they are determined to ram their bill through Congress this fall. And, to help turn public opinion in their direction they are citing several bogus studies to persuade voters that the United States needs a nationalized health care system now more than ever.

One questionable study that is gaining a lot of traction with the democratic politicians is the medical bankruptcy study. This study, Medical Bankruptcy in the United States, 2007: Results of a National Study, found that 62 percent of all bankruptcies filed in 2007 were linked to medical expenses. Of those who filed for bankruptcy, nearly 80 percent had health insurance.

John C. Goodman, the "Father of Health Savings Accounts", debunked this study in a recent posting on his blog.

President Obama frequently parrots the thoroughly discredited "statistic" that one third of personal bankruptcies are medical bankruptcies. The propagandists of "medical bankruptcy" have now upped the ante with a new study published this week, in which Drs. David Himmelstein, Steffie Woolhandler, and colleagues, report that 62 percent of personal bankruptcies in 2007 were "medical bankruptcies." The authors are leaders of the Physicians for a National Health Program, who have promoted government-monopoly medicine for decades.

As with previous studies of medical bankruptcy, this study puts forward a number of definitions of "medical bankruptcy" and defines any bankruptcy with any one of these conditions as suffering medical bankruptcy. The one that immediately stands out is "medical bills over $5,000 or 10 percent of household income on medical care." (So, if Donald Trump had gone bankrupt in 2007 with $5001 of medical bills, he would be "medically bankrupt.")

Gregg said...

So now we want people with pre-existing conditions to die!? (Nonny)

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"It will enrage Republicans and even many Independents and likely create the feelings of impotence which lead to militia forming."

Militias forming? Like the KKK ? What the hell are you suggesting or advocating?

Talk about silliness!

Is this the new Republican position? Is this where hate radio and has taken you damn fools?
Blogger,you have medicare, it's the same type program that will cover most all Americans.

Why should that make you mad enough to take up arms?

aDaughterOfYaHWeH said...

Well no we wouldn't be like the KKK, that was started by democrats, not Republicans haha contrary to popular belief, but a good history study will tell you the truth ... but we definitely would NEVER be like the KKK (Republicans were one of the groups targeted by the Klan because they started as an abolitionist party)... I think the Militia that AWC is referring to would be more like the Founding Fathers, "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Read the Declaration of Independence ... the accusations against King George and the reasons for declaring independence have a chilling resemblance to the things currently happening in the US Government right now ... I’m not promoting a war, but look at what happened the last time a government tried to oppress the people in such a way – the result was a group of militia that won a revolutionary war fighting under the banner of freedom and liberty!

aDaughterOfYaHWeH said...

BTW - Great letter Watauga Conservative!!! Way to go!! More people need to stand up and let Washington know how they feel!

Sarkazein said...

POV has no idea how important liberty is and how easy it is to loose it. Neither does he know what at least 33% of the people will do to keep it.

Liberal POV said...

aDaughterOfYaHWeH

Well no we wouldn't be like the KKK, that was started by democrats

After Democrate President Johnson passed the civil rights act the Republican Party recruited that racist branch of the Democrate party and have maintained political power 28 of the last 40 years. Jesse Helms, Strom Thurman just to name two from the Carolinas that switched to the Republican Party.

"..But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.""

This is called an election and your side lost big time.

Gregg said...

No Lib, America lost big time.

Thanks Daughter, excellent post.

Sarkazein said...

aDaughterOfYaHWeH-

You can see by POV's last comment, he has an exclusive set of history books, in fact one of a kinds.
In his history book, The Declaration of Independence was an election campaign asking people to vote against King George in the up-coming '76 election.
Our history books say it was telling King George what the Founders were going to do, a declaration of sorts. And when King George tried to anything about it, he lost. We won.

Sarkazein said...

This really is in the top 1000 inaccurate things any liberal has ever written. This is one of the quotes that make people think liberalism is a mental disorder:

"..But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.""

"This is called an election and your side lost big time."-POV

Sarkazein said...

POV- Iknow you've been gangster slapped with this too many times, but the ONLY KKK GRAND POOBA is DEMOCRAT SENATOR ROBERT BYRD.

Blogger said...

Lib, as long as you and I have been together, I really resent the implication of: "What the hell are you suggesting or advocating?"

Keep that up and I can easily believe you are doing some paranoid psychological projections.

Shame on you. It should be apparent to you that the whole letter was just pointing out the obvious and what Sen. Hagan and everyone knows. Militias in this country always arise when the government becomes unresponsive.

Blogger said...

Lib, following up on my previous comment, I am still p..sed off at you. When I saw a protester in the photo with what appeared to be an assault rifle, I freaked out probably even more than you did. I thought “My God, this administration is going to provoke the militias into action!”

By the way, it was your side that immediately began to voice concern over the militias when they saw that picture. It is also your side that keeps saying that certain actions, such as in the Middle East, recruit more enemies.

Back years ago, when I was protesting the Viet Nam War, members of the Symbionese Liberation Army blew up offices on the University of Wisconsin campus and killed a graduate student they apparently did not know was there. It was that incident that caused a lot of us to quit protesting. There were people in the movement, who in their feeling of impotence, would go over the edge.

To use the Resolution Process in a dishonest way is to cheat. When a government cheats as we saw in Iran, the people react. Some go too far. I don’t even come close to being one of them. What have I ever said that would justify your making the charge you did on this blog?

Gregg said...

"What have I ever said that would justify your making the charge you did on this blog?" -Blogger to LiberalPOV

What has anyone ever said on this blog to justify the hideous name-calling that regularly comes from Lib? He has no answers just hate.

guy faulkes said...

Excellent letter, Blogger. I, also, contacted Ms. Hagan. In my communication, I brought up the fact that we appreciated her wiliness to work in a truly bipartisan manner. I also referred her to specific posts on Watauga Watch that let her know the local far left has abandoned her. I urged her to vote against socialized medicine and to start over with a plan that kept the good in our system and worked on the bad one issue at a time.

As to the militia comment, I am sure that POV would be interested to know that as citizens of the United States, we are all part of the militia. Originally the militia was any male between the ages of 16 and 45, but due to the elimination of age and gender discrimination, we are all militia members. If POV takes his grandson or granddaughter out to plink at Coke cans with a .22, he is training the militia. If he does not do his civic duty by doing this, not to worry, I am doing mine.

Unfortunately Ms Hagan may be a little soft on second amendment issues. We probably need to contact her on this in the future.

The KKK was started by Nathan Bedford Forrest, among others. Forrest was a Confederate Calvary General and a Democrat. While his racism left much to be desired, he was and is considered to be one of the better military tacticians in calvary matters (extending to the mechanized calvary) of all time.

Blogger said...

guy faulkes said...

POV, this video from the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms will explain the militia concept to you. However, I must warn you that it is longer than your usual Saturday morning cartoon and contains words of over three syllables.

2nd ammendment

Blogger said...

Guy wrote :I, also, contacted Ms. Hagan." Great!

I read little hints that she might not end up being one of the bad guys even if she doesn't become one of the good guys.

Blogger said...

Anonymous said...
"You do not understand what you are saying, there are a lot of us here in Watauga County,"
Anonymous, you must not have been reading regularly this blog. The intelligent contributors to this blog have made it clear. Healthcare reform is possible. The vast majority of people in this country want what you wrote you want as well as affordability, portability and not being canceled after an illness. There are other ways of getting reform than a socialist government takeover of our lives. From the news today, there is a slight glimmer of hope that at last Obama is beginning to consider something reasonable. All he has to do now is to unhook himself from his loony left and hook up with the vast majority of the American people. If he can do that, you will get what you want.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"It should be apparent to you that the whole letter was just pointing out the obvious and what Sen. Hagan and everyone knows. Militias in this country always arise when the government becomes unresponsive."

Anger has become a cottage industry Rush and the rest of hate radio, Fox programing( Glen Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly) and now hundreds if not thousands of right wing Blogs.

It would make absolutely no difference what Obama did at this point the mission of these groups is to generate hate and anger.

You blogger should have the courage, intelligence and integrity not to buy such bullshit. Death panels, are you that foolish? I don't think so but you push the lie and contribute to the mob.

On numerous occasions here I have tried to find common ground for our common problems only to be insulted by this irrational angry mob called Republicans.

That's exactly what the current Republican Party is at this time in history is an angry mob.

Gregg said...

Lib,

You have no clue. We have the public option now for Native Americans. It's the "Indian Health Services", an utter failure. Watch this and tell me "death panels" don't exist.

BTW Rush is a harmless lovable fuzzball.

Gregg said...

More "death panels"

Sarkazein said...

Blogger posts articles, videos, audio, his opinions and experiences yet a liberal writes it is all Rush generated hate. People start to learn about the bills, complain about the death panels, the Left swears they don't exist, pressure increases form the public and they take out what they previously say didn't exist and it is denied by the liberal.

This statement: "On numerous occasions here I have tried to find common ground for our common problems only to be insulted by this irrational angry mob called Republicans."-POV

This statement shows a complete disconnect from reality. Yet he is allowed to vote.

aDaughterOfYaHWeH said...

Haha! So true.... in reading comments on this blog I have not found Lib to try to find "common ground" at all ... all I have seen is finger pointing, name calling and accusations that we have no original thoughts! Although we use a wide range of sources, all of our information is inaccurate and hate driven from Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc, yet all of his sources are the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth... a high school student could see the ignorance in such a claim!!

aDaughterOfYaHWeH said...

P.S. Gregg ... i love the "lovable fuzzball" comment ;) haha

Gregg said...

"It would make absolutely no difference what Obama did at this point the mission of these groups is to generate hate and anger." -LiberalPOV

A hallmark of liberal speak is falsely accusing the opposition of using the tactics they themselves are guilty of. Case in point above. If Obama saves the economy and kills some terrorist the right would give him is due. Commenters on this blog often criticize Republicans. When has Lib ever criticized Obama? Look at what Lib is willing to defend in the name of ideology. Look at the scorn heaped upon those that have made America safe. Note the hideous arrogance of the premise that says we will "hate" if we are told to do so.

Gregg said...

Well Lib? You posted on another thread hours ago so I know you've been back. Are you still going to claim "Death Panels" are fiction after reading the links I provided for you? Why aren't you denouncing what the "public option" has done to Native Americans?

I would also recommend Sarah Palin's Facebook page for more information. After she kicked the debate up a notch with her first post she followed up with another that explained her reasoning. She made an intelligent and logical argument. It was extremely well sourced and footnoted.

USS Rodger Young said...

Nony mouse said:

"You do not understand what you are saying, there are a lot of us here in Watauga County, who can't get health insurance due to pre-existing conditions."

Well, what I would have you do is look towards yourself as the cause of your own misfortune. You obviously don't care whether or not illegal aliens recieve free health care which you are not entitled to. Are you an outspoken critic of illegal aliens who are robbing YOU, YES YOU, of health care?

Why is it that illegal aliens in Watauga County recieve free health care for existing conditions while you supposedly cannot?

Your insinuations hold no water with those in tune with what is really going on around us. Illegal aliens take Americans jobs, take Americans health care resources, take Americans money and send it home in the form of remittances, and take Americans to school in terms of degrading our society.

Yet folks like you only whine and sputter about not having access to health care while letting the wolves in the back door. Hell, you deserve not to be covered since it are folks like you who allowed it to happen. So if you expire due to absence of health care then you have no one to blame but yourself. Only in this country do criminals (illegal aliens) recieve free health care over Americans.

One other option is for you to travel to Canada and enjoy their socialized medicine you so fawn over.

LOL!!!!!

Your old pal

Katharine

USS Rodger Young

Liberal POV said...

GOP ( Anger Junkies)

Check out what can happen to you if you continue to go to hate radio, Fox news or your favorite internet fix for anger.

The below is Roger a heavy user of anger, an notice all logic and compassion is gone.

"Well, what I would have you do is look towards yourself as the cause of your own misfortune. You obviously don't care whether or not illegal aliens recieve free health care which you are not entitled to. Are you an outspoken critic of illegal aliens who are robbing YOU, YES YOU, of health care?"

USS Rodger Young

How is Roger different from a crack head? I'm not sure which is worst?

USS Rodger Young said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV,

Ah hah, I have drawn you in once again to the questions which you are unable to answer. Isn't this why I was banned from W. Watch? Not being able to handle the truth is a sour, sour thing isn't it?

And what do you disagree with? You have a whiner (similar to you) whining about lack of health coverage when hundreds of criminals (illegal aliens) are able to exploit that very same type of coverage.

And you equate this exposition as being a crack head? Come again parder? How is that? If you are dim witted enough to advocate for criminals (illegal aliens), then you deserve not to be covered. Plain and simple.

The illegal aliens who shot Agent Rosas - they could be living next to you this very minute, yet that doesn't seem to bother you. And someone speaking out against illegal aliens does?

Talk about someone on crack, you take the cake. When you wake up on the steam grate in the morning, please remember it was yourself who put you there - not the rest of us hard working tax payers who don't want our extremely hard earned money paying for criminals (illegal aliens) having anchor babies in our weakened nation (made weak by liberal spawn). LOL!!!

Both you and I know you will be unable to answer to this. I accept it, and by your emotional laced tirades, you too accept it. What is funny in all this is the rest of Watauga County knows who you are and how bad you are beaten on a daily basis!!!!! LOL!!

There actually is a little justice in the world!!!!! LOL!!!!!!

Have a good un

Your ole pal

USS Rodger Young

Thalheimer

USS Rodger Young said...

I only posted once - I swear. Web Site messed that up. I wouldn't post something like this more than once as a weak constitution (like POV's) might not be able to take such a mass infusion of truth and goodness.

USS Rodger Young said...

Silenced!!!!!! Once again the left cannot answer. Looks like they just quit and went home.

LOL