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Wednesday, November 18, 2009

From Watauga Democrat Letter to Editor ll/16/09

Zoning - By Any Other Name
Editor:
At the final meeting for the Citizens' Comprehensive Plan, Brian Chatham, Soil and Water Conservation Technician, said we were not truthful in our letters to the editor. Chatham claimed the Farmland Protection Plan (FPP) was separate and had nothing to do with the Citizens' Comprehensive Plan. He emphasized the FPP had nothing to do with zoning. Calling us liars has long been the defense when we strike the truth. Our response to Mr. Chatham and the Planning Oversight Group can be confirmed by reading the grant application made for the FPP, which they call "Watauga Farming for the Future".
1. Project Title: Agricultural and Farmland Protection Plan
2. Applicant: Watauga County
3. Contact: Brian Chatham, Soil Conservation Technician
4) Grantor: NCDA&CS, AD & Farmland Preservation Trust
5. Page 4 of 10 - describing ways success will be measured - "consistency with other plans in Watauga County (Comprehensive Plan...)"
6. Page 5 of 10 - describing similar projects - "Voluntary Farmland Preservation Program"
7. Page 6 of 10 - among community needs the project will serve: "preservation of priority farmland" "affordability of farmland"
8. Page 7 of 10 - "Watauga County is developing a Comprehensive Land Use Plan which includes the goal of preserving farmland. The project will coordinate with and support the Comprehensive Plan." (Zoning by any other name) Watauga County will have an opportunity to incorporate recommendations for land use guidelines to promote farmland preservation even as development occurs." (Zoning by any other name)
9. Project Partners: High Country Conservancy, New River Growers' Association, Watauga County Christmas Tree Growers' Association, Watauga County Cattleman's Association, Maverick Farms, ASU, USDA-NRCS and FSA
Mr. Chatham said he and David Harper, a land conservation consultant, Unique Places, wrote the $30,000 grant. David Harper was awarded $20,000 to write the plan, $1,000 to manage the project, and $2,000 to facilitate advisory committee meetings. There are 2 "community visioning meetings" costing $1,000/meeting; $2,500 for 100 copies of the report; $700 for "windshield surveys" and $1,000 for "food system and market research."
This is reminiscent of the $50,000 organic broccoli grant for the County where we got (1) a half-page report (2) the County had to retrieve 2 greenhouses used to grow ornamental flowers instead of broccoli plants; (3) the county had to retrieve a laptop computer used by an ASU student to produce anti-Afghanistan war flyers instead of tracking the broccoli project; and (3) where the consultant received most of the grant money from the tobacco foundation - all in the name of the farmer.

45 comments:

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

What's your position here blogger and that of the Republican patrty?

Will your side not be content until we has the whole county looking like the area just before the devide of US321 and US 421 in Valis NC? Is the acres of junk and trash of this business the future you and Republicans want for our beautiful mountains? Would you want some type of regulation to prevent this type mess?

guy faulkes said...

I have no problem with zoning if the county pays the landowner for what it takes, including the opportunity to use his property in the manner he wishes. If you want to keep him from developing it, then you need to pay him for his development rights. If you are going to limit his use, pay him for all other uses he could have had. Also, he should get to set the price for what is taken from him.

POV, do you advocate taking peoples property and rights with no compensation?

Also, how do you feel about the undocumented workers (illegal aliens) that hid the body of their four year old daughter after possibly murdering her (by burying her in their yard in an unmarked grave) being deported?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Lets stay on subject of what we want our mountains to look like.

Are you aware of the property I'm referring to? Junk everyting right to the edge of the road. Huge eye sore.

Nonny said...

I'm not at all concerned with or interested in the view of any political party on this issue. I'm wondering what the letter writer's point is.

Also, is the FPP not a voluntary program as it is in most other counties in the state? If not, I'd really appreciate someone pointing me to reliable source material that shows it to be involuntary.

Unless I'm totally misreading this letter (and I seriously DO invite anyone to correct me), it just seems like misplaced and/or unwarranted bluster.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Do you want to clear up your position on how you want our Mountain community to look in 20 years?

Like the eye sore on US421N?

guy faulkes said...

POV, I am aware of the area of which you are speaking. Why do you not purchase it from the owner if it offends you enough to try to take it or the use of his property from him?

Please do not doge the issue of the illegal aliens. It is a legitimate area of concern, unlike your many attempts to change the subject on almost every thread.

Nobody, I believe that the FPP is voluntary PRESENTLY. It most likely will be combined with future zoning plans for the county. It is apparently evolving from a manes that encourage property owners to voluntarily restrict their proeprty to farming use by what are essentially restrictive covenants to a use that is the only approved venue for that property through zoning regulations. This will probably include limits on how you can farm, the amount and type of livestock you can have on the farm, how big a lot has to be in order for you to build a home, etc. These zoning regulations can tell you what kind of fencing you can use, etc. I would suggest you research the Residential / Agricultural zoning district that was proposed for the ETJ in Blowing Rock. Farm use as a zoning district is nothing new. As POV has just shown, the major criteria most people use for the establishment of this type zoning is aesthetic concern, not concern over public safety. These safety concerns are already covered under other existing laws. I believe this was the point the person that wrote the letter is trying to make. I would invite you contact the Institute of Government at UNC Chapel Hill to research farm use zoning. Those that oppose zoning, regardless of political party, have just as much right to organize in opposition as their opponents do in support.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Lets be clear here the blight along 421N is of no concern of the Republican Party or conservatives and could blanket the entire county as for as you're concerned? Have I stated that correctly?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

If a case can be made that the child was murders by the mother's boy friend Kevin Videa he should stand trail for murder, not sent to Mexico to possibly kill another child.
The court system should not sweep this away because it's an immigrant couple.
Does anyone know their story or that of other family members? Were other family members afraid to go to the police? Was the mother afraid to go to the police afraid she would meet someone like you in uniform?

Nonny said...

No question that zoning opponents have every right to organize, guy, but wouldn't their cause be better served by incorporating linear logic, credible evidence and germane references?

Operating solely off the letter presented atop this thread, we're presented nothing to indicate any degree of liklihood that the voluntary FPP is or ever will be involuntary.

The County's current development of a wholly seperate and unique Comprehensive Land Use Plan is a moot point in debates for or against the FPP. Think about it....if the County were about to force landowners to do exactly what the FPP is going to try to get done voluntarily, why would the County give a hoot about the success or failure of the FPP in the first place?

guy faulkes said...

if the County were about to force landowners to do exactly what the FPP is going to try to get done voluntarily, why would the County give a hoot about the success or failure of the FPP in the first place? - Nonny

Several reasons. If the FPP does not accomplish the goal of restricting the properties that certain people want to be restricted, then it becomes a hotly contested political issue. Politicians like to avoid those if possible.

The opposition to this zoning would be across party lines. This is not desired by either party. It wold consolidate political action by the probably more conservative factions of both parties. This would mean that the politicians on both sides that oppose it suffer as do the parties. Both parties want yellow dogs, not people that think for themselves.

Zoning laws reflect some people's opinion of what is good for those people. They ignore the fact these same laws hurt other people. When you have damaged someone, then you are going to have an enemy for a very long time. A politician always wants all of the credit for something and none of the blame.

Do you not think that if the FPP was not opposed, there would have been no one speak in opposition to it? As there was, then it is not going to accomplish its stated goals voluntarily. This means those goals would have to be met legislatively by forcing those in disagreement to comply. The probability of this being a political issue approaches certainty.

This is why the county gives a hoot and why the letter brings the probability of this being a zoning issue to people's attention. The problem with the letter is that the author believes others are as well educated about zoning as is she.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

You're being quiet. Did someone get you to post someting you know little about?

Liberal POV said...

GOP

Lets be clear here the blight along 421N near where US 321 and US 412 divide is of no concern of the Republican Party or conservatives and could blanket the entire county as for as you're concerned? Have I stated that correctly?

guy faulkes said...

POV, the couple could not be charged with murder because the deterioration of the body was such that the cause of death could not be conclusively determined. The state of the decomposition of the body is the result of the manner in which it was buried. These criminals may well have gotten away with murder by the mistreatment of the remains of their own child. We have no proof with which to convict them of this crime. As we can prove they are illegal aliens and therefore criminals, we can deport them. This would certainly remove criminals , possibly very dangerous criminals, from this country. Their country of origin will be responsible for keeping them under surveillance and preventing any other crimes as it would have been all along if these criminals had not been illegally in this country.

guy faulkes said...

Have I stated that correctly? - POV

No. I asked you to buy the property an clean it up. If you cannot buy it, form a group that can. If you want the government to do it, then make the government pay for the property. I said zoning was permissible if the property owner was reimbursed for what was taken from him. POV has never answered if the question of whether he thinks it permissible for the government to take from an individual with out compensating him for his loss. Where does POV think the funds for these reimbursements should come?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

You and the Republicans want to create an incentive program for trashing property?
The blight along 421N near where US 321 and US 412 divide is of no concern of the Republican Party or conservatives and could blanket the entire county as for as you're concerned? Have I stated that correctly?

Sarkazein said...

Who are the most viscous against their own citizens? Not the insurance companies, not the mortgage lenders, not the oil companies, it is the government, both local and Federal. As their income falls due to the recession, their meanness rises as they refill their empty treasuries on the backs of the citizenry. They do this to assure their own paychecks. Selfishness enforced at the point of a gun while the citizenry struggles with record unemployment, foreclosures, and bankruptcy.
The Left wants to give them more power to inflict more pain.

By BILL DIPAOLO
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 4:28 p.m. Monday, Nov. 16, 2009
JUPITER — An overgrown lawn could cost a homeowner $1,000 a day.

A plan to quadruple the penalty from the current maximum of $250 per day for a first violation is scheduled for consideration at Tuesday night's town council meeting.

A repeat violation by the same person would be boosted to $5,000 a day maximum from $500 per day.

If the code enforcement board finds that the violation is irreversible — the unapproved removal of an historic tree, for example — the violator would face a maximum fine of $15,000. The current maximum penalty is $5,000.

guy faulkes said...

I want you to take responsibility for the actions you want to preform, POV. You cannot do that as you are a liberal and are emotionally unable to do so.. If you cause the government to take something from the individual, the the individual has to be reimbursed. If not it is theft at best and the communism you desire at worst.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

You and the Republicans want to create an incentive program for trashing property?
The blight along 421N near where US 321 and US 412 divide is of no concern of the Republican Party or conservatives and could blanket the entire county as for as you're concerned?

You and the Republican party see no problem with the mess along 421 N?

Some could buy the property next door to you and build a strip joint, asphalt plant, junk yard, mobile home park for undocumented workers, dog kennel, 24 hour saw mill and all of that would be fine with you?

guy faulkes said...

Some could buy the property next door to you and build a strip joint, asphalt plant, junk yard, mobile home park for undocumented workers, dog kennel, 24 hour saw mill and all of that would be fine with you? - POV

Not the mobile home park for illegal aliens. The mobile home park is fine. The criminals should be deported. I have no problem with the others and have actually lived near several of them. I owned a dog kennel and lived on the property. I will admit the obscene Obama political signs in the yard of my neighbor last year were disgusting, but it was his property. :-)

Answer the question about reimbursing private property owners for what the government takes from them. I have repeatably said you could buy the property and do with it what you wished or the county could morally put controls on the proeprty you keep referring to as long as they reimbursed the property owner for the loss of the use of his land in the manner he desired to use it. If you do not want to reimburse the property owner for his loss, are you a thief or a communist?

By the way, many Republicans are on your side of this fence. Many Democrats are on mine. This issue goes across party lines. As a matter of fact, the owner of the proeprty in question is a not affiliated with either party.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"By the way, many Republicans are on your side of this fence. Many Democrats are on mine. "

You maybe right. Why would Blogger try to further divide the Republican party?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Shouldn't the property owner along US421N be responsible to his neighbors for devaluing their property?
Adjoining property owners to this mega mess have lost tens of thousands of dollars in property values, plus the mess they have tolive near.

Is it your position that you don't care if our entire area become a similar mess?

guy faulkes said...

POV

First of all, it is my understanding that Honest Debate is now posting the threads on this blog, not Blogger.

This does not matter. Your accusation that by posting a thread on a matter that cuts across party lines is somehow dividing one party more than the other carries no logic. But then few things that you post do make any sense.

This blog allows for debate on many topics that cut across party lines. Most of the people that regularly post here, with the exception of the liberals, have disagreed with policies of both major parties and have endorsed policies of others such as the Libertarians. Maybe you could understand why if you ever become able to think for yourself rather than blindly following your liberal masters.

Are you ever going to answer the compensation question?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Are you ever going to answer the compensation question?'

I did the owner should compensate his neighbors for destroying their property values.

Many have lost tens of thousands in property value because of this man.


Notice Bloggers name is on this post.

Another example of what you think you know just ain't so.

guy faulkes said...

POV, congratulations. Blogger's name was on the post. I did not notice and was wrong. However, I did say it did not matter and it does not.

Also, you seem to finally admit or at least start to recognize that if the use a person makes of his property adversely effects that of another, then a civil suite between the property owners is the answer. The government need not get involved. The relative benefits of the use of the land of two adjoining property owners is not your concern unless you are one of the owners nor does your opinion of the aesthetics of the proeprty matter. Not everyone agrees with you. A friend of mine commented today that she enjoyed driving by the property you mention to see what is there and to see if there is anything she could use in her artwork.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

That confirms my earlier post the blight along 421N is of no concern of the Republican Party, you or conservatives and could blanket the entire county as for as you're concerned?

Thanks for clearing that up. we now have your position.

guy faulkes said...

POV, what are you talking about? That last post makes even less sense than usual.

Were your parents Republicans that spanked you, causing some kind of resentment fetish, or is it the spanking that conservatives give you in debate that makes you so irrational? If it is the latter, you need to realize that there are many liberal Republicans that are on your side.

Focus......Focus..... You can do it.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

I've seen no post where this trashing of an entire community by one property owner concerned you and no Republican has come forward over the last two days to express concern for such destruction of neighboring property values as the property owner along US421N ( 36°15'4.05"N) ( 81°46'12.51"W)has done. The Republicans that have taken control of the local party are extremist and have one goal explosive development with no restrictions and the hell with the community, environment and people.

guy faulkes said...

POV, No Democrat has done any of the things you mention. other than you. What is your point? The issue crosses party lines.

What caused your fetish against Republicans? Your fear is irrational. You are indeed psychotic.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Are you aware of the property I'm referring to? Junk everyting right to the edge of the road. Huge eye sore."

In who's eyes? Apparently the property owner is fine with it. With that being the case, who are you to tell a property owner what is an eyesore? Even more importantly who are you to tell someone what they can and cannot do on their own property? If you do advocate controlling the lives of Americans down to the most base element, then I am sure you would be ok with the government mounting cameras in your home to ensure you don't do something that others might not agree with. You know, you

Clotheslines are a supposed eyesore to the fringe liberal left has attacked in the past. And what do you, O Great Knower OF All Things, think of clotheslines?

Your ole pal
Johnny Rico

johnny rico said...

Liberal POV said:

"Lets be clear here the blight along 421N near where US 321 and US 412 divide is of no concern of the Republican Party or conservatives and could blanket the entire county as for as you're concerned? Have I stated that correctly?"

How long have you lived in these mountians? It is easy to tell you are an outsider. My family has lived here since before the Revolutionary War and we have seen various changes taking place over the past 200+ years. We have never seen change like we are seeing now. Outsiders, like you, came in, Shylocked some poor farmer out of his land, and now think you are privledged enough to tell others that they shouldn't do the same. If you and your liberal socialist sheep ilk are really serious about protecting the mountians then why not put your money where your mouth is? Donate your homes and property to the Nature Conservance for destruction, move into town, and encourage others to do the same.

Why should you have yours and others shouldn't? Isn't that called HYPOCRISY? You people are the ones who ruined the mountains so live with it. It sure wasn't the local farmers who invited folks in to build everywhere. Yet the few remaining local farmers smart enough to hold onto their farm land are the ones you want to pay for your own greed. Simply amazing.

No wonder this country is going down the tubes!! Next thing you illegal alien loving morons will be trying to do is force local farmers to give land to illegal aliens so they can have yet another handout.

LOL!!!

Your ole pal
Johnny Rico

PS I know you won't answer to any of the essential truths contained here, but it does us all good to watch you and the other trolls skip and fairy prance their way through this blog without ever doing much more than looking stupid. LOL!!!!

Lad Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV,

Well? Brace up and have at it if you have any fire about you. LOL!!


Johnny Rico

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

Explain the point system of citizenship?

Your family was here before the Revolutionary War.
How many points do you get for that compare to someone who moved here and volunteers at the local school?

How many years do you need to live here, pay taxes , volunteer for Fire Dept., Ruritan, and churches to have full citizenship?

Please explain those rules.

What give one full rights as a citizen of the United States?

Like wise please explain what gives a person full benefits of the human race getting full human rights benefits?

Liberal POV said...

JR

Clotheslines are a supposed eyesore to the fringe liberal left has attacked in the past. And what do you, O Great Knower OF All Things, think of clotheslines?"

I think clotheslines are great they reduce the need for fossiel fuel and add color to the lanscape.

Where did you get misinformed that liberals opposed clothes lines? That's what too much Fox News will do.

Johnny Rico - purveryor of truth said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"How many years do you need to live here, pay taxes , volunteer for Fire Dept., Ruritan, and churches to have full citizenship?

Please explain those rules.

What give one full rights as a citizen of the United States?"


So you go to church? Which church do you attend? Faulks asked you that one several times and you didn't answer it.

You need to live here long enough to realize you are an outsider who is trying to punish the very people who kept the land "beautiful" as you say for over 200 years. You see, Philanthropist Socialist Sheep POV, the locals who lived here before the scourge arrived (you and your ilk) were very low impact users on the land. Homes built on ridges didn't exist. Most were built in swales and hollows based on water availability and protection from the elements. Then you idiots arrived, carved the mountains up, and are now trying to make those very same farmers pay the price for you OWN OVERINDULGENCE. So you tell me, how long should you live in this once beautiful (asethetically and politically) country before deciding that you know what is best for others. Remember, you outsiders came in for a reason. What many of us true old time locals never understand, it you dolting idiots try and change Watauga County to the screwed up cesspool from which you orginated!!!!!! Not only is it hypocritical, it is downright stupid. YOU, YOU, YOU are the reason for destruction in this county, not the locals living here long before you arrived.

So why don't you tear down your home and return it to nature, move into the city, and encourage others to do the same? After all, if you are going to have my farmland zoned to prevent building then you should practice what you preach!!! LOL! You sheep never seem to get it do you?

"What gives on full rights to be a citizen of the United States"?

This is a good one you never should have asked. Abiding by the Constitution and contributing to the overall health of the nation would be a good place to start. Outsiders like you and Craig Dudley should be deported to Mexico for not doing this.

You deserve neither the beauty of Watauga County or all the good things that has made it a wonderful place to live. Remember, the quality of life in Watauga County started to decline when folks like you came in and started changing things!!!!

LOL!!!

This ought to be interesting to hear. The outsider who thinks he/she is entitled to the very thing he/she has played a part in destroying!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!

Your dearest ole pal
Johnny Rico

PS Were you born stupid or did you just get that way?

ed

BikerBard said...

REEK-O

Where's that inner peace you had in the other thread? You are just a raving lunitic! ROTFLMAO!

Liberal POV said...

JR

Am I required to attend church to have full citizenship rights? Do I need to attend a fundamentalist church?

Suppose I agree with you on ridge development do I get more points to pass your citizenship requirements?

I think I'm starting to understand you and your anger just a little.

You believe anything you dislike or disagree with is liberal regardless of the facts otherwise.

Boone is a college town and the entire High country area is a tourist and retirement community.

How many of these people deserve full citizenship rights?

JR very few of your views will be supported by the constitution.

Craig Dudley is a man that gets high marks for posting on these blogs with his real name and is a native of Appalachia if not Watauga Cty.

I do like Mexico and the Mexican people but my home is here and I plan to stay another 35 years.

Lets see you don't like undocumented residents, You don't like liberals, You don't like people that were not born in Watauga County, You don't like non church goer, You don't like developers or realtors and you don't like college students or professors.

Now do you think you will ever get a majority to vote with you on issues?

It does seem you have Simon Jester, Guy, HD and who knows you sound a lot like Ms Foxx and make as much sense.

You may want to try to get that anger under control I think you have OD on the anger.

guy faulkes said...

I must confess that I share Rico's bewilderment about the phenomena that the first thing that people that move here after running from somewhere else do is to try to make conditions here the same as where they came from.

Thank you for the company in which you place me. Look what you have on your side. BikerBard. Enough said.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

BikerBard views are reality based and has logic, humanity, while he pulls your chain I don't see hate or misrepresentation.
I need to let BB speak for himself.

We now have it from Guy and HD that Johnny's views are really main stream Republican and not seen as extreme or out of touch with reality.

I was just think how Johnny's post confirmed my view of the Republican party was racing toward the cliff.
2012 will be fun.

Johnny Rico - the Professor said...

Uh oh, we have Liberal Socialist Sheep POV doing another one of his dodges. Notice how he brings the arguement towards citizenship which was never the crux of the issue. LOL!! When a liberal starts skipping, dodging, talking in half-circles you can bet he/she is on the run. Liberal Socialist POV, you, as usual, did not answer any of my questions. Here it is again so you can read and weep!!!!!

Please explain those rules.

What give one full rights as a citizen of the United States?"


So you go to church? Which church do you attend? Faulks asked you that one several times and you didn't answer it.

You need to live here long enough to realize you are an outsider who is trying to punish the very people who kept the land "beautiful" as you say for over 200 years. You see, Philanthropist Socialist Sheep POV, the locals who lived here before the scourge arrived (you and your ilk) were very low impact users on the land. Homes built on ridges didn't exist. Most were built in swales and hollows based on water availability and protection from the elements. Then you idiots arrived, carved the mountains up, and are now trying to make those very same farmers pay the price for you OWN OVERINDULGENCE. So you tell me, how long should you live in this once beautiful (asethetically and politically) country before deciding that you know what is best for others. Remember, you outsiders came in for a reason. What many of us true old time locals never understand, it you dolting idiots try and change Watauga County to the screwed up cesspool from which you orginated!!!!!! Not only is it hypocritical, it is downright stupid. YOU, YOU, YOU are the reason for destruction in this county, not the locals living here long before you arrived.

So why don't you tear down your home and return it to nature, move into the city, and encourage others to do the same? After all, if you are going to have my farmland zoned to prevent building then you should practice what you preach!!! LOL! You sheep never seem to get it do you?

"What gives on full rights to be a citizen of the United States"?

This is a good one you never should have asked. Abiding by the Constitution and contributing to the overall health of the nation would be a good place to start. Outsiders like you and Craig Dudley should be deported to Mexico for not doing this.

You deserve neither the beauty of Watauga County or all the good things that has made it a wonderful place to live. Remember, the quality of life in Watauga County started to decline when folks like you came in and started changing things!!!!

LOL!!!


PS As far as not liking college students, wasn't it Watauga Watch who skewered the Republican student at Appalachian a year or so ago? Uh huh.

Johnny Rico - taken em to school said...

Looks like my last shut the Liberal Socialist Sheep element down for good. That was easy!!!!!!!

Johnny Rico

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I'll take it a step further and say Ms. Rico's views represent not just Republicans but a majority of Americans. Some may not even realize it.

Johnny Rico 2012! Sounds good, doesn't it?

Liberal POV said...

HD

"Johnny Rico 2012! Sounds good, doesn't it?"

Would that be for Ms Foxx's seat?

Honest Debate said...

No, Obama's.

Johnny Rico - taken em to school said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV,

You did not answer to any of the tough questions posed by my incalculably well written post. What do you have to say for yourself? Are you stupid? Attention Deficit disorder, retarded? Which is it?

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Anonymous said...

Our patience has worn thin.....when are americans going to ask for impeachment of O BOMB?
He is uneducated,ignorant,and afraid!

Times awastin'!