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Thursday, December 3, 2009

Weed Patch

The last one went well so let's do it again. The party crashers, Algore canceling an appearance in Copenhagen and the jobs summit are a few possible topics. This also may be a good place for our liberal friends to gain some credibility by showing some outrage over climategate. None have so far. Any topic (within reason) is fair game. Have at it.

87 comments:

guy faulkes said...

Do not expect most liberals to ever show any outrage over Climategate. Global warming is a religious conviction to them. To them this is analogues to someone claiming to have found the tomb of Jesus with His body in it. They are not going to believe any proof out of religious conviction just as I can conceive of no proof that would convince me of the truth of the Jesus analogy.

Fortunately those that were not in the cult of global warming, but were somewhat convinced by the preaching of the charlatans that their science was valid, will change their minds due to these disclosures.

Sarkazein said...

Houston is expecting a winter storm today. Snow... a rare thing in Houston. Part of global warming now.
In the early eighties, we had 3 days in a row below freezing. This didn't count, because the term SUV was not used then. Everyone had at least one pick-up truck or a Suburban, but they were not called SUVs, so they could not cause climate change.

Honest Debate said...

Yea, I wouldn't expect anyone to eat crow. I don't expect any renunciations of global warming. I am, however, a bit surprised at the lack of outrage. Algore is no better than the libs here, he hides. He should be more outraged than anybody. Shouldn't he?

Just think of the courage, credibility and intellectual honesty he could show by getting in front of this issue and demanding that heads roll. He should give back the Nobel Peace Prize. It's a no-brainer. He won't because unfortunately he's one of the charlatans Guy Faulkes speaks of.

Well guys, we've done it now. The weed patch will have no libs.

guy faulkes said...

Maybe this will stir up our liberal friends. As it is about the war in Afghanistan and the split in the Obama-nation it caused, maybe they can defend their faith and the man child Messiah in regard to this video clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2C8TyrRi6Y&feature=mpt%3Atop_stories

guy faulkes said...

Climategate video. I wonder if the libs think Jon Stewart is funny now. Of curse he does use some of the flawed data he is making fun of to defend Global Warming in the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgPUpIBWGp8&videos=V_BH04rTyFc&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1

Liberal POV said...

Flat Earthers

I don't get your opposition to reducing energy waste or having cleaner energy?

The United States with 5% of the world's population consumes 25% of the world's energy.

Has anyone driven through Atlanta lately? We can't build enough roads and parking lots to meet the demand of every family owning and driving 2 to 4 cars
How many wars do we need to fight for our addiction to oil and what does that cost?

The answers to our jobs problem, our energy problem and maybe our society disfunction is a massive mass transit project similar the interstate highway project.

What do you folks think happens to the billions of BTU from generating power for both heating and air conditioning?

Why is the ocean rising? Why are both polar ice caps melting? Why are glaciers melting around the world? I've seen the ones in Alaska with my own eyes.
What happens when we remove most of the worlds forest?
Shouldn't conservatives want to conserve?
What do any of you think of the concept of stewardship or leaving the world a better place than you found it?

Wolf's Head said...

LPOV, you must be joking.

No one here has stated that they want "dirty" energy or to waste money for any commodity, including energy, that they use.

Your tying these topics to the man-made-global-climate-change fraud shows that the real issue with you is not the truth, or facts, but a political agenda by rich leftists to use your lemming like loyalty to enrich themselves.

I want LOW energy bills. I want CLEAN energy and yet the left has a consistent record of denying any free market solution to them because it interferes with their personal agenda.

Please continue to be a well used tool of the fat cat lefties who are using you to help enrich themselves. After all, everyone has a purpose in life.

Honest Debate said...

"I don't get your opposition to reducing energy waste or having cleaner energy?" -LiberalPOV

Does anyone think this is a logical conclusion to draw if one condemns the mockery of science we've seen?

Is anyone in favor of removing the world's forest? BTW lib there are more trees in America now than there were 150 years ago.

Does anyone want to leave the world in worse shape than we found it? It seems to me the best way to achieve that is to surrender to the terrorist.

Lib blew his chance at credibility with flying colors.

How 'bout it BB, Bridle, Nonny, RV or any other libs, is it that hard to condemn fraudulent science?

guy faulkes said...

POV

"Why is the ocean rising?" It's not.

"Why are both polar ice caps melting?" They're not.

"Why are glaciers melting around
the world?" They are not. Many are getting larger.

"I've seen the ones in Alaska with my own eyes." How can you see anything through the wool that has been pulled over your eyes by listening to charlatans preaching worse than bad science? This process was manipulated to give a skewed result. It is a lie.

"What happens when we remove most of the worlds forest?" Forests are a renewable resource, The amount of forest in this country has remained stable for the last 100 years. ( http://www.nationalatlas.gov/articles/biology/a_forest.html ) We cannot control what other countries do with their forests unless you are a fan of global domination through force.

"Shouldn't conservatives want to conserve?" We do. The environment, our life style of being more than a third world country, and our civil rights are examples of things we wish to conserve.

"What do any of you think of the concept of stewardship or leaving the world a better place than you found it?" This is what we are doing if we could get the liberals out of our way.

As the private jets, limousines, and SUV's of those such as Al Gore prove, we have no need to be ashamed of having a successful life style. You do make a point about dependence on foreign oil. Thank you for the endorsement of energy independence for this country. To free ourselves, I assume you are now a "Drill here, Drill now" proponent.

By the way, you poor fool, the energy companies are working on ways to produce cleaner energy all the time because they will make money by doing so.

Simon Jester said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4mljwchq5E&feature=ytn%3Amptnews

Honest Debate said...

SJ,

"Who the hell does he think he is?"

The king of the world.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Gou I know you would never let facts change your misconceptions but here's a opportunity.

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/rising-seas.html

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

What is the proper and perfect sea level? Has it ever changed in billions of years or just since Bush was elected?

You're so funny!

Honest Debate said...

And another thing, ALL "science" involving AGW is now in question. It's become big business. Do you agree?

guy fauleks said...

POV, what are these figures that were produced through fraudulent science supposed to prove? Do you not understand that you have nothing to stand on? Your entire premise of man made global warming was built on a lie, proven by the facts that the models do not work. Nothing you post can prove anything until the studies have been redone by your side using valid scientific methods. Thirty one thousand scientists did use these valid methods and said man made global warming did not exist.

Liberal POV said...

Wolf

Explain how these are different issues?

"No one here has stated that they want "dirty" energy or to waste money for any commodity, including energy, that they use. "

"I want LOW energy bills. I want CLEAN energy "

What are you and I saying different?
Do you want to see Highways and parking lots to continue getting larger and larger making it impossible to walk from one place to another?

You've been to Europe and see the contrast between moving about in a village there and a small town here.

What's wrong with building a massive transportation system that includes High speed rail as well as rail to most towns and cities making it possible for families to own only one car, reducing the size of highways and parking lots?
This would create millions of jobs and drastically reduce energy consumption.
Bike trails would be a healther options to travel short distances.
The US is not the only industrial nation but we comsume 25% of the world's natural resources. Do you believe we can and should do better?

Sarkazein said...

Do you know why there are more trees now then there were 150 years ago? NO? Because man became better at fighting forest fires. Man used to not fight forest fires. He does now.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

Your gibberish is amusing.

However, I would like to address one of your points.

"...we comsume 25% of the world's natural resources."

Accepting your numbers, one must consider that with that 25% we provide 60% of humanitarian relief throughout the world. Never in the history of civilization has a society so selflessly done more good than America. If we did not, the world would suffer greatly and that's what you are advocating.

Sarkazein said...

Bill Ayers fights back from under the bus. The RATS turn on each other.

Honest Debate said...

Once again it's Sarah Palin who is in front of the issue with her call for Obama to boycott Copenhagen.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, another reason for the increase in forest is the policies of the timber industry to replant after they cut trees in an area. Weyerhaeuser, for instance, plants two to three trees for every tree it cuts. This is what an "evil' cooperation does to insure economic longevity using a renewable resource. Trees are a crop. It just takes them a long time to grow.

Honest Debate said...

Sark,

I've always believed Republicans needed to have a positive platform in 2010/12 as opposed to simply running against Obama. I now think the anti-Obama platform is enough.

Honest Debate said...

Guy and Sark,

Air pollution is also much better since the 70's despite increased industrialization.

guy faulkes said...

Those that do not think Palin is a serious contender for the office of President in 2012 are deluding themselves.

Sarkazein said...

A friend of mine is a big time scientist. He builds mice.
Most of his time is spent rounding up grants to fund their research. The global warming hoax scientist found a cash cow in global warming and would do what they had to do to keep the grants coming in. The fact that many are liberals, and beat the anti-capitalism drum when not begging for millions, is a reach at new heights of greed.
Algore of course is the greediest non-scientist alive. He used his government connections to enrich himself at the cost of the truth.

guy faulkes said...

Of course pollution has been lessened and air quality has improved. Pollution is bad for business. Crying into your hands about pollution gets you wet hands. Enlightened self interest results in improvements for every one.

Take for instance the wildlife management programs funded by the Pittman - Robertson Act. This act was a voluntary tax placed on hunting and fishing equipment to be used for wildlife management to improve hunting and fishing. (Voluntary meant that hunters and fishermen were the parties that asked for the tax to be established. In other words, it was a grass roots tax, not a big government one.) Guess what? You cannot create food plots for deer and grouse that do no also benefit song birds, field mice, and chipmunks.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"Accepting your numbers, one must consider that with that 25% we provide 60% of humanitarian relief throughout the world. "
Where did you get such a figure?

Liberal POV said...

HD

" I now think the anti-Obama platform is enough."

Now that's a plan for a better future that will solve the world's problems? Did you forget who got us into his mess?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Take for instance the wildlife management programs funded by the Pittman - Robertson Act. This act was a voluntary tax placed on hunting and fishing equipment to be used for wildlife management to improve hunting and fishing. (Voluntary meant that hunters and fishermen were the parties that asked for the tax to be established. In other words, it was a grass roots tax, not a big government one.) Guess what? You cannot create food plots for deer and grouse that do no also benefit song birds, field mice, and chipmunks."

You make sense for a change environmental interest and hunting and fishing interest are one and the same both sides the left and the right seem to miss this.

guy faulkes said...

POV, I do not know HD's source, but this is interesting.

http://www.heritage.org/research/tradeandforeignaid/wm630.cfm

By the way, before you start whining about the Heritage Foundation, please note the author backs up his information.

guy faulkes said...

POV, you might be surprised to realize that the vast majority of hunters and fishermen are pro-gun, pro business conservatives. Read the editorial comments in any hunting and fishing magazine.

We are the real conservationists / environmentalists instead of political hacks like the Sierra Club, PETA, etc. We put our money where our mouth is. We are able to do this because we work and can afford to, or at least that was the case before Obama destroyed the economy.

"Environmentalists" such as those in Blowing Rock that want to protect their views at the expense of a multi use national forest (where one can create food plots for wildlife that would be unnoticeable) are not on the same side as hunters and fishermen. These "environmentalists" also have the distinction of being the first town in the country to ban clean energy from wind generation because of their "multi-million dollar" view concerns.

Simon Jester said...

Did you forget who got us into his mess?

That would be Obama.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I can't remember if I got my numbers from Fox, Rush or if I made them up. Where'd you get yours?

Sarkazein said...

It looks like Obowma used the UN climate "scientists" to compute the new jobless rating.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

I will focus on what I agree with you on.

I think PETA secretly works for the right to discredit the left. I don't understand the objectives of PETA.

The Sierra Club I do support.

I also support wind generators but their maybe a few places we wouldn't want them installed.

Because they're a good idea doesn't mean we want them to cover the mountains or weshould not have any restrictions.

Sarkazein said...

The TIME is here.

guy faulkes said...

Excellent link, Sark.

The following is a link detailing the fact even the U.N. is going to investigate Cilmategate, but Obama is trying to ignore the issue.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/70653-rep-issa-white-house-refusal-to-investigate-climategate-is-unconscionable-

guy faulkes said...

More links on Climategte. If the press does not inform us of what is going on, we have to inform each other.

http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/article851820.ece

http://mrc.org/press/releases/2009/20091204124643.aspx

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CBVM701&show_article=1

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/researcher-says-nasa-hiding-climate-data/

BikerBard said...

Faux:
Your "Us -vs- Them" mentality is what got Obama elected. Keep maintaining this juvenile attitude.

Honest Debate said...

You stepped in it BB,

If the staunchly conservative Guy Faulkes represents "us" and the press represents "them" then you have just admitted that the press is liberal. Didn't you?

guy faulkes said...

Obama's falling popularity and failing policies will insure his defeat. This is why I think this may be a golden opportunity for a third party. Obama would come in third.

Good point HD. BB, thank you for your honesty in your admission that the press is liberal, except I would somewhat disagree and rate Fox news as moderate - conservative.

Honest Debate said...

Yea Guy, it's almost as funny as when Nonnysense admitted Obama tricked moderates into voting for him.

oatz said...

For decades now appalling orthodoxy has been ossifying many academic disciplines. As a result students are never exposed to competing ideas and attitudes. Increasingly that orthodoxy has spread to the political class in general. Writes David Bernstein:

... it's clear that many liberal-leaning institutions, starting with the universities, are sufficiently engaged in groupthink that they lack the most basic curiosity about or knowledge of what their ideological adversaries believe, and are instead inclined to dismiss them entirely as mere evil reactionaries. [And they are sufficiently isolated from contact with conservatives that they don't have personal experiences to suggest otherwise; it's easy enough, for example, to go to a top university, on to a major journalism school, and from there to the New York Times or MSNBC or The Huffington Post without ever having had a serious intellectual discussion with a conservative colleague or mentor.]

Sarkazein said...

Your "Us -vs- Them" mentality is what got Obama elected.-BB

There has never been more of an "US vsThem" President or campaign for president than the Obowma fluke.

Everything in his goofy rhetoric was "Us vs Them" and still is. Of course he still on the campaign trail as seen yesterday, so what's new?

Sarkazein said...

That's two admissions, the MSM is liberal, and Obowma is juvenile. Way to go BB.

Sarkazein said...

The jobs growth thing is so simple, take the mandates off the employer. Take the liability other than gross negligence off the employer. Congress should spend the next three years with the delete button, not the add button. Delete about 1000 or so laws per year. give the useless bast@&ds something to do.

Sarkazein said...

Harold B Estes speaks out. He writes many of the things conservatives write here. This is his LETTER to Obowma.

Sarkazein said...

Birds of a FEATHER flock together.

Honest Debate said...

I don't know what to comment on first. It's all good.

Climategate continues to amaze be. Great links Guy. I heard an NPR report today that lamented the fact that global warming has moved from the scientific realm to the political realm. Duh! It's ALWAYS been political.

I'm not familiar with Mr. Bernstein but he nails it. Oatz's post is scary. In a way it makes me a little sympathetic to the media. Many just don't know better. The rest are despicable.

Sark you are absolutely right about jobs. It's not rocket science. Neither is the economy. If Obama would make the already in place tax cuts permanent that alone would make a huge difference. I honestly believe the economy would be in MUCH better shape if the "stimulus" package never happened.

The letter to Obama was awesome!

guy faulkes said...

The following is a letter from our senator, Kay Hagan to Obama concerning the climate change summit. In my opinion, while lip service was given to U.S. interests, the better course would have been to urge him to put forth delaying the conference until the matter of the fraudulent science had been addressed.

http://hagan.senate.gov/files/Final%20Copenhagen%20letter%20with%20signatures.pdf

This letter is not nearly as meaningful or good for the country as the letter to which Sark sent a link.

Sarkazein said...

The tell on Global Warming is most scientists, if human, would want to be proven wrong if their theory involved the taxation and sacrifice and change of the American way (don't ask if you don't know what the American way is) that would result from their findings. These "scientists" fought to prevent opposing opinions. They tried to create an atmosphere of closed mindedness and denial rather than hoping someone could prove the theory wrong. This tell made it all obviously political and deceitful.

Bushrod Gentry said...

Remember when Richard Salent who was the president of CBS news said,"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they should have"? I don't think you will hear a lot on CBS about the fraudulent methods employed by the Hadley Climate
Research Center,New Zealand's NWIA, or Australia's Climate Center. It makes me think of a quote by HL Mencken,"The whole idea of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of themimaginary." Global warming? Some people will do anything to make a living with taxpayer dollars!

Al Gore has canceled his $1200- per-handshake visit to the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. I don't believe that the reason is the estimated 40,884 tons of carbon dioxide equivalent that the conference will produce. That's about the same as the city of Morocco produced for the entire year of 2006. Oddly, Al has remained silent since Climategate. Perhaps he is cruising on his 100 foot houseboat. The houseboat uses the same amount of fuel in a day as driving from NY to Chicago plus another 975 miles. Al has named his boat, the Bio Solar-! which I like to abbreviate to BS-1.

guy faulkes said...

This is good. Many of HD's points about the credibility of science are reflected in this Canadian news cast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIEQqLokL8

This is great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

Where are is our news media (other than Fox)? Damn, I'm glad I am a Fox news junkie as the paragon of intellect, POV likes to decry.

guy faulkes said...

are not are is. No proof reading. Sorry.

Honest Debate said...

Since this is the weed patch allow me to vent about something that is a personal problem. It has to do with the ineptness of government bureaucracy.

Two and a half weeks ago I sent in an application to renew my contractors license. I got it in 1999. It's a way to charge more money but it is rarely required for the jobs I do. For that reason I let it expire. If it is inactive for two years I would have to take the test again. Dec. 31, 2009 will be two years.

I filled out the application and took it to the post office. They charged me 88 cents postage. It came back two weeks later with 17 cents postage due. I ponied up 17 cents and remailed it. The next day I realized it was Dec. 1. That meant that I owed an extra $10 as that is the monthly penalty. All because the post office couldn't read a scale properly but the bad part is the time crunch. It must be approved by the 31st or I loose it. I called "Mean Francine" at the NC Licensing board. She was very testy and informed me that my application would be sent back. Her patience was nil when I asked if I could send the extra $10 without the wait. She huffed "no" and they were unable to take a credit card or do a bank draft. I had to wait. Today my application came back. The note informed me I owed $10 which I knew. It also said "Several messages have been left in an attempt to resolve this without returning the renewal"! I tried my best to resolve this and was told there was no way. I received no messages.

I'll try again Monday and I still have time but this is ridiculous.

Sorry, I know nobody cares but I feel better now.

Sarkazein said...

H.D-

Your comment shows the government standing in the way of commerce at every turn. You would think governments, local and national, would do everything they could to promote commerce during this time of high unemployment and less building. No. They have gotten worse. This is the weight of the bureaucracy that collapsed the USSR. Prices of permits have risen, qualifications for permits have risen, fees have gone up, requirements for permits have increased. In Houston if you go to the building permit office, it is packed. Packed with people waiting. They are waiting to comply with some of the most unnecessary mandates imaginable. In the smaller cities, a building official's whim can make the cost of getting a permit increase by $500. It may not be the cost of the permit, but the cost of something required to get the permit. This is nothing but effort to keep a need for their job, and the false assumption that they can achieve Utopia by mandate.

Honest Debate said...

Sark, hear hear!

Meanwhile, I did some Christmas shopping over the internet in the private sector. I could compare prices, quality, warranties, read reviews, chat online with friendly helpful customer service agents and track merchandise to my doorstep every step of the way.

guy faulkes said...

HD, You are mistaken in your belief that nobody cares. There are even those that care who are struggling to correct these travisties from inside the bureaucuracy.

Your post reflects the problem with government bureaucracy. This problem is that it takes a very special kind of personality to be a public servant. Those in public service often tend to think of themselves as public masters. It does not matter if we discussing local, county, or federal public service.

People in these positions, both elected and staff become arrogant as they are in positions of power. This is exemplified by those old guys my age that flag traffic along side of the road. This is the most power they have ever had over others and they revel in it. Hence, they sometimes strut like little banty roosters. It takes a special person not to fall to this phenomena.

In their defense, public servants do have to answer the same questions over and over. They forget most of us do not deal with their area of expertise every day and we need to know what the proper procedures are. Their lack of patience may be understandable, but it is not acceptable.

Most public servants who think they are public masters forget their job is not to tell people no or to make the completion of a project more difficult, but it is to facilitate the progression of this project as close to the desires of the applicant as can be done. They are not there to hinder, but to help. It does not matter if the project is building an outhouse, the a skyscraper, or obtaining a license.

This leads to another point that can be used as a defense for staff people. Many times they have to go along with their superiors if they wish to keep their jobs. For instance, a planning director that goes against the wishes of the town council even though he is following the UDO is not going to keep his job for very long (I would invite an investigation of the Town of Boone in this regard.) If he has responsibilities to his family, living with himself becomes difficult.

For a brief, shameful period; many years ago, I worked in the public sector. I left that job with the enmity of my superiors, a desk full of thank you notes from the public, and an ulcer. I have fought this battle from both sides. Correcting this situation is why your votes in every election are vital. It is almost impossible to effect change from the inside.

Unfortunately we do not demand competency and respect from our public employees. As Sark has illustrated with his comments about the control of commerce and government power, this insures we get the government we deserve.

Sorry for being on the soapbox so long. Can you guess this subject is my pet peeve?

Simon Jester said...

Another global warming video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0D-RkoZZLo&feature=related

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

The governments have become "if it ain't in the computer it ain't gonna happen". Try ridding the city of a computer glitch. No one takes responsibility. I have been fighting one at the City of Houston for a year and a half. Everybody sees it, admits it, but no one seems to be able to do anything about it.

The point is these are the exact same people wanting to control our health care. These are the same kind of people that will have to recommend charges, because you didn't re-new your health insurance, and that's what the computer says to do.

guy faulkes said...

Good point Sark. The only way to fix it is from the bottom up and then from the top down. First, as a grass roots effort, we have to vote in people that will listen to and represent the people. These people that we elect are going to have to do a bunch of house cleaning. With the various government unions and the protections that are in place for government employees, this will not be an easy task. However, we have to get rid of the public masters, no matter what the cost.

I will give you a tip. Do not complain to the person that is the logical choice to fix the problem. Do not complain to this person's boss. Complain to the boss's boss. Do in frequently and never stop. You will eventually get results as orders will come from above to the proper person to fix the problem in order to shut you up. The logic is that if you want to cover a pole with crap, you need to poor it on top so it runs down and covers the entire pole. This is faster and more efficient that pieing up crap from the bottom.

Do you think term limits in all elected positions would help or do you think that will just spread the graft?

Your point about how these jerks are going to be the people running health care is very powerful. I do not want someone that thinks he is God making decision about my health care and life. That is one of the main concerns about death panels comprised of megalomaniacs.

I have been monopolizing the blog for a while. I promise to hush. My only defense is that the threads have been very interesting to me. I have finally been able to disagree with people with some sense and learn something in civil discourse. As HD says, this is very rare. I got to mouthy. Sorry.

Sarkazein said...

Hey, if I could type faster, I would be commenting more.

BikerBard said...

Learn, Grasshoppers, learn!
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/12/leaving-the-right.html

Honest Debate said...

BB,

I read it. Mr. Sullivan does make a couple of valid points but in my opinion most of what he writes is based on false premises that he gives no evidence to support. He hardly makes a case, he just gives his opinion and I disagree with most of it and I can give reasons why.

Simon Jester said...

Sullivan is as wrong with his ideas (no proof) as POV and BB. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Or in other words, it is good to get the weeds out of the garden.

Johnny Rico said...

Whatever happened to the freedom robbing Patriot Act? The liberal socialist sheep whined and cried that this Bush era law was a threat to freedom. Many of us conservatives agreed.

But now we hear nothing about the Patriot Act except from those same conservatives who orgininally denounced it. Is the Patriot Act ok now with liberals as long as it is used against white male, southern, gun owning, religious, returning vetran, conservative, Americans? Liberal Socialist Sheep POV, Shyster (Shylock), Cheerleader (Biker Bard) and the whole crew over on Watauga Watch screamed and cried about the Patriot Act before the election, and now they act like it was never a problem. Where is the great coward Craig Dudley in all this?

As is usually the case, liberal sheep are about as hypocritical as is possible.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Sandra

PS This ought to be interesting

Wolf's Head said...

LPOV, once again, you must be joking.

If you want clean and cheap energy why are you supporting the leftist policies that prevent that from happening? Excessive taxation to pay for unconstitutional social programs hurts business and increases costs. Restrictions on the development of US resources leaves us to stay dependent on foreign dictators and supplies. Regulations in the name of a fraud (manmade climate change) increases cost and directly transfers wealth to the already wealthy. Hell, you all have even banned windmills here in the mountains.

As for public transportation who needs it? Those in cities can take advantage of it if they want, but I will not be forced to take some ecomobile bus when I want to go into town. Your push for public transportation is based on the lie of limited and dwindling energy resources. Any such limitations are artificially caused by GOVERNMENT. That is why the you're-a-peons have public transportation, because their energy supplies are taxed out the as*.

Bringing such stupid and enslaving policies to the US would only increase gov't power and increase the wealth of the politically connected, such as banks, stock traders, energy companies and energy hacks such as Algore. You are merely an useful idiot of the elites who are taking over the country.

Honest Debate said...

"you're-a-peons" -Wolf

Good one!

We're all Americans except when you're in the bathroom then European.
(cymbal crash)

Sarkazein said...

Catch on Oh great "scientists" the climate CHANGES,.

guy faulkes said...

As Mr. Sullivan describes himself as a loyal Tory, content to be under British rule, why would anyone care what he thinks about politics in this country? The proper treatment of Tories occurred at King's Mountain.

oatz said...

The Telegraph reported:

Copenhagen is preparing for the climate change summit that will produce as much carbon dioxide as a town the size of Middlesbrough.

On a normal day, Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen’s biggest limousine company, says her firm has twelve vehicles on the road. During the “summit to save the world”, which opens here tomorrow, she will have 200.

“We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention,” she says. “But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report.”

Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. “We haven’t got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand,” she says. “We’re having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden.”

And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? “Five,” says Ms Jorgensen. “The government has some alternative fuel cars but the rest will be petrol or diesel. We don’t have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it’s very Danish.”

The airport says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets during the peak period alone, so far over its capacity that the planes will have to fly off to regional airports – or to Sweden – to park, returning to Copenhagen to pick up their VIP passengers.

As well 15,000 delegates and officials, 5,000 journalists and 98 world leaders, the Danish capital will be blessed by the presence of Leonardo DiCaprio, Daryl Hannah, Helena Christensen, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Prince Charles. A Republican US senator, Jim Inhofe, is jetting in at the head of an anti-climate-change “Truth Squad.” The top hotels – all fully booked at £650 a night – are readying their Climate Convention menus of (no doubt sustainable) scallops, foie gras and sculpted caviar wedges.

Sarkazein said...

Oatz-

Just absolutely gross hypocrisy. What an incredable waste of everything. I guess fortunately, you could say, some entrepreneurs will make a killing on this orgy of the stupid. I'll bet they are small tippers though. This is tax money paying for a lot of this debauchery. Can you imagine some of the sickening cocktail hour conversations?

Sarkazein said...

That's the coldest for Dec. 7 since the National Weather Service began tracking temperatures in Sacramento in1849.

The city of Sacramento last had 2 inches of snow in February 1976.

Matthews said a trace amount of snow has fallen in the area four times since then - most recently on Jan. 28, 2002.

Honest Debate said...

Free hookers!

guy faulkes said...

HD, that may explain Obama's insistence on being there, in spite of the Climategate scandal. Even Gore ran from the bad science.

Sarkazein said...

Funny, Algore sees himself as a SHEPHERD along with all those that believe we should be herded.

guy faulkes said...

So does even Gore think people that believe in global warming caused by man are sheep? He certainly has sheared enough money off of them.

Sarkazein said...

The 7th woman has now claimed an affair with Tiger and his wife is only on the 9 iron.

POV-
his guy may take Clinton's place as the one to aspire to.

Bushrod Gentry said...

Already there are 1200 new limos cruising the streets of Copenhagen. Over 140 private jets are expected. But, 5 new hybrids have been spotted. Maybe, we should send someone from Boone to find out how many inches of snow that Watauga will get this winter. Will we have a white Christmas? What is the ideal temperature for the earth? How many degrees hotter or colder would be best for the majority of living things? Will NASA allow the public to see the data that been kept secret for the last 2 years? Or will NASA continue to ignore The Freedom of Information Act? Is Nasa worried that outside review will make it readjust it's numbers again? Somehow, I don't think any of these questions will be asked, much less answered.

Sarkazein said...

This guy

I should have written.

Honest Debate said...

Remember when NBC went green by turning off their lights and sending film crews all over the world including Antarctica?

Why do people buy this crap?

Simon Jester said...

Why do people buy this crap?

The same way Obama got elected. Because sense is never common. It takes experience to be able to determine when you are being lied to. After a while, you understand that if you see a liberal's lips moving, he is probably telling a lie.

guy faulkes said...

Some networks other than Fox are finally addressing Climategate. They are trying to pour the Kool Aid, but at least hey now admit the issue exists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_oOtgD7WS0&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKf1iLwak7o&feature=ytn%3Amptnews

Sarkazein said...

Human EMBRYONIC research is a success.

Honest Debate said...

Thanks for the nightmares I'm certain to have Sark.

Simon Jester said...

HD, why would you have nightmares from Sark's post? I know you have seen many wide eyed, drooling liberals that looked worse as they shouted their lies than what was shown on that picture. Take Pelosi or Franks for instance.

Honest Debate said...

SJ,

They give me nightmares too.