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Wednesday, January 13, 2010

Liz Cheney's Group Pulls No Punches


130 comments:

oatz said...

Standard Obama operating procedure. Act like its no big deal ala Liberal POV, have flunkies say verything worked, throw everyone under the bus(we all must sacrifice), then another golf party.

Liberal POV said...

HD

More scare politics. You damn fools are just encouraging more attacks by making them effective ( even when the accual attack fails).This is the perfect example.

Why are you helping Al Qeala with it's objectives?

Down playing the role of terrorism is the only way to win. Hyping it encourages more attacks. Is more attacks what you want?

You people care more about petty politics and damaging the Obama Admin then you do the real interest of America.
Your personal chances of being harmed by a terrorist are less than winning the lottery.
Quit hyping fear.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

Obama's incompetence is the part that's scary.

Liberal POV said...

HD

No, its your fear mongering and support of the enemies objectives to destabilize both our economy and political system.

You can't be made 100% safe doing anything.
Why the obcession here? Drunk drivers are far more dangerous to you and your family.

Get this in prospectove and quite peeing your pants.

You're hyping fear.

guy faulkes said...

POV will never realize that not taking a strong stance against terrorism will only encourage them. This is because they operate much as he / she does. If you ignore them or do not pay them the attention they think they deserve, then they escalate their efforts. This will cost the lives of many people.

POV is correct that one can never be 100% safe. He / she misses the boat because he / she does not understand that this means one must always be willing, ready, and able to defend one's self.

Sarkazein said...

"Why the obcession here? Drunk drivers are far more dangerous to you and your family."-POV

POV, catch on, you can not divert intelligent people from Obama's misconception of the war on terrorism or his mishandling of the war on terrorism. It worked on you yes, but that just stands to reason.
Turn the page on the bizarre "drunk driver" thing Rainman.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Down playing the role of terrorism is the only way to win"

And you are now an expert on war fighting?

Killing all the terrorists and bringing the war into their homes is a tried and proven method of winning a war. Of course, if you are a liberal socialist anti-American such as yourself (your spitting on returning Vietnam vets is an example), then you wish to prolong the war and kill more Americans through your political correctness.

Answer this question (LOL): Would you rather American soldiers fire into mosques and other holy sites that contain terrorists or have 18 year old boys die at the hands of these same terrorists another day?

Hard questions, hard questions.....

Your ole pal again

Johnny Rico

Katy T.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"You can't be made 100% safe doing anything"

Tell a liberal socialist this same thing during a gun debate and see what filth he she spews!!! LOL!!!

Back atcha sheep!!

Your ole pal


Johnny Rico

Ayden

Liberal POV said...

Sark

" Obama's misconception of the war on terrorism or his mishandling of the war on terrorism."

Their cannot be a War on Terrorism, Terrorism is a tactic just like the drones are a tactic.
Terrorism is a weapon of war extremist use to create as much fear and panic as possible. You fools are assisting with that delivery system by hyping the fear for them.
The enemy is AlQeala not terrorism. You folks need to understand who and what the enemy is. Fear panic, economic and political destabilization of the West particularly the United States is the objective not killing people or destroying property which they cerntainly will do to achive world attention with your help.
Stop helping with your fear mongering and fear hype.

Sarkazein said...

Outside of the obvious, you insult this country for not doing exactly what you say we did.
After 9/11, an attempt by Muslim extremists to destroy our economy, the American people went back to work in high-rise buildings, visited NYC to boost it's tourism, went out to eat, went on vacation in airplanes, went to college, did all those things Americans do in normal life. The terrorists did not shut down the American way of life as was their plan. America has always stood tall against her enemies, not bowed down to them, and HOPED they would go away. Your comment, even though it is very possible you don't understand your own theory, states that America did not go back to work, vacation, and pursue happiness. This is an insult to Americans, and a complete disconnect with reality. The terrorists have not shut down this country, thanks to the will of the American people.
Where be your head at?

guy faulkes said...

"Where be your head at?"

POV sometimes has to visit a proctologist for an eye exam. He cannot get past his mantra of talking points. I will continue to wait for him to answer the global warming questions. Until he does, he has less than zero credibility.

"The enemy is AlQeala (Al Qaeda) not terrorism."

Try to focus POV. They are terrorists. They practice terrorism. If they were terrorists or terrorist supporters of your magnitude, then you might have a point but they are not. It is the magnitude of their terrorism that makes them the enemy, so yes the war is on terror. If not, POV's picture would be in the post office.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

The American media and internet has been obsessed with the threat of terrorism. Those of you here would trade American and Western culture of human rights and personal freedoms for the promise of personal safety. You're willing to see suspects tortured and imprisoned without evidence or rule of law.

You have played into AlQeada's strategy by spreading fear.

Anonymous said...

Johnny-
You say "killing all the terrorists and bringing the war into their homes is a tried and proven method of winning a war."

In what specific war was this method tried and proven to lead to a win?

Sarkazein said...

Oh, now I get it, the Muslim terrorists were desiring enhanced interrogation and imprisonment as unlawful combatants per the GC, and would blow themselves up to have a chance at getting a CIA sinus rinse and a Caribbean island vacation at GITMO. And we, as Amercans, SHOULD want to be stifled by the government and be kept in the dark by the media concerning the war on terrorism.
Good thing you only have room for your head up there.

Sarkazein said...

A'mous-

Kill them and break their stuff 'til they've had enough... tried and true.

Sarkazein said...

Even with the SNAFU in the State Department's ability to block the Underpants Bomber from entering the USA and the admitted systemic failure, when Obama finally ended his Hawaiian get-a-way, Hilary was jet-setting off to Hawaii and New Zealand for a tax-payer funded tropical islands get-a-way. The Haiti earthquake turned her around, but she must have been using POV's ignore it and it will go away war on terrorism. Between Pelosi, Obama, and Hillary, world travel is number one on their priority list. At least with them, POV, you have fellow travelers.

guy faulkes said...

Poll says Obama would not be elected today.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/majority_would.php

GOP could take back the House because of Obama.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31481.html

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Poll says Obama would not be elected today. "

This is exactly What Al Qaela would want is to have the power with your help to affect the Western Political Systems.

Liberal POV said...

Sark, Guy, HD and other Tea Bag Silly People

"Oh, now I get it, the Muslim terrorists were desiring enhanced interrogation and imprisonment "

You have little real information about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Your news and images of these wars is totally different from what the rest of the world has seen.

The American media filters all graphic images of mangled children and civilians killed and injured.

The media of Al Jazeera is and has been showing those images.

Which is the propaganda our filtered version or the Muslim Al Jazeera version?

Yes, I do believe Al Qaela wanted Dick Cheney's brutal reaction and extremism with human rights abuse. This abuse by the Bush Admin did little for form a united front against Al Qaeda What a recruiting tool Dick Cheney was and is for Al Qaeda.
Obama has it right keep cool play golf, don't allow Al Qaeda to set his agenda, forge alliances with Muslim Countries and create images of America that plays well on both American and Muslim media.

Stop being evangelist of fear.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

To say nothing of the bogus Obama-care bill, the money given away to political friends with the stimulus bill, the quadrupling of the deficit, the racial slurs toward the policeman, the fascist take-over of the auto industry and the banks, the badmouthing of capitalism, the apology tour, and all those other things the Muslim extremists caused.

Yep, we were tricked by Osama to not support Obama. A brilliant theory!

Liberal POV said...

Anti Obama Right Wing Nuts

Sark
"To say nothing of the bogus Obama-care bill, the money given away to political friends with the stimulus bill, the quadrupling of the deficit, the racial slurs toward the policeman, the fascist take-over of the auto industry and the banks, the badmouthing of capitalism, the apology tour,"

These are fair game and basic politics, fear mongering
and using the threat of terrorism as a political tool helps the strategy of Al Qaela war on western culture. Treason is the word that comes to my mind and we saw the with Cheney outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/17/60minutes/main3378089.shtml

guy faulkes said...

POV, Obamas policies that have increased terrorist attacks in this country are one of the reasons he could not now win an election and is hurting his entire party. You live in your own little world, well removed from reality.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"You live in your own little world, well removed from reality."

Could be but it's not a world of fear and hate.

guy faulkes said...

POV Oh, but you do live in a world of fear and hate. You hate conservatives and fear to answer their questions. You never answered the global warming questions, thereby conceding the argument. You never answered Simon Jester's question about your opinion of BB's threats and behavior.

You see and hear what you want to see and hear. Then you put your blinders on, put your fingers in your ears, and start shouting La La La La La La .... to prevent having to deal with facts contrary to your world view.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

" You hate conservatives and fear to answer their questions."

I don't hate conservative not even you and Sark. I do think you're silly, sometimes funny and most always wrong but I do look for those time when I can agree with you which turns out to be seldom.

You ask what temperature the earth should be, I don't know but I would say within 2 degrees of what it is today.

You ask about BB's threat to let you own his right foot up your ass.
Suppose BB lost that foot in Vietnam?

I don't know who BB is dose BB know who you are?

I don't like the debate here to go personal and when you or Johnny sling insults I just ignore them rather that go personal and get childish.
GOP, ( Grumpy Old People ) Fear addicts, Gun Fetishes, Rush Groupies, Hate Radio Groupies are all general comments on your silliness, not you personaly.

Now back to the topic of this post.
Why do you want the US to keep doing the same things Bush Cheney did for eight years that failed to end Al Qaeda's war on western culture causing a hugh backlash from all nations of the world?
Why do you insist on fear mongering and helping Al Qaeda hype fear? Why are you supporting Al Qaeda's objectives and strategy in their war on the United States?

BikerBard said...

I heard Liz Cheney on television last night, and she sounded like an airhead to me. And she has a group?

Wow! Who would ever follow her?

guy faulkes said...

"Why do you want the US to keep doing the same things Bush Cheney did for eight years that failed to end Al Qaeda's war on western culture causing a hugh backlash from all nations of the world?" - POV

Because Bush and Cheny prevented terrorist attacks after 9-2, although Bush should have been more aggressive.

Obama has been in office for a year. We have had three attacks.

History proves you wrong. Do you wish to continue singing La La La some more?

What would losing a foot in Vietnam have to do with assaulting someone? An aggressor is an aggressor and must be death with with an appropriate amount of force in order to achieve a successful defense. This is true either of a country defending itself from terrorists or a man defending himself from an assailant.

This is why a supporter of terrorism such as yourself is not dealt with as is a person with a bomb in his shorts.

Reasonable force has to be used in both cases. In a war, reasonable force is that which is necessary to win, but you should not be harmed for having a traitorous opinion with no physical acts involved. Reasonable force for a man is whatever it takes to stop the assailant, but no more.

Thank you for your concession that you did not know what you were talking about in the global warming debate.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Do you like putting words in my mouth? Is that honest debate?

Who is Al Qaeda at war with? Would it not stand to reason we are at war with Al Qaeda not Muslims or the strategy of terrorist acts?
Twenty percent of the world is Muslim would it not make good American strategy not to piss off any more than necessary?

You and Dick Cheney have a plan sure to fail as it has.

Fear is the thing that makes terrorism work so well and you my friend helping the enemy by fear mongering.

Sarkazein said...

"Who is Al Qaeda at war with? Would it not stand to reason we are at war with Al Qaeda not Muslims or the strategy of terrorist acts?
Twenty percent of the world is Muslim would it not make good American strategy not to piss off any more than necessary?"-POV

POV- please give me a link to the AlQaeda Christian or Jew or Buddhist or Rastafarean list

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"I don't like the debate here to go personal and when you or Johnny sling insults"

If this isn't the grand poo pah of cop outs!! So this is how you plan on not answering the tough questions - because those tough questions hurt your feeling and shake your weak belief system to its vile core? LOL!!! Here are the questions that hurt your feeling again:

1. Would you rather American soldiers fire into mosques and other holy sites that contain terrorists or have 18 year old boys die at the hands of these same terrorists another day?

2. What do you say to the video entitled "No Guns For Negros"? Do you believe it explains, in enough detail, your methods and desires to rid blacks of their civil rights?

3. What would you say to all the out of work Watauga County stone masons, carpenters, house painters, dry wallers and young boys lookign to make a buck mowing grass in the summer who have had their jobs taken by criminals (illegal aliens). Do you tell them what you told me - that they are lazy and deserve to have their jobs taken away by criminals (illegal aliens)?

This has got to be hard on even the most moronic socialist sheep such as yourself, but you sure ask for it!!! LOL!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS I see the other lemmings have migrated to their cliff jump here on Watauga Conservative now that they can't post dribble on the Watch!!! LOL.

Angie Spencer

Master Rico said...

Nonymouse said:

"In what specific war was this method tried and proven to lead to a win?"

It won in all wars we had the guts to use this strategy. Name one it didn't work in.

LOL

That was easy

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS Shylock, do you want to take a shot at the "No Guns For Negros" video? LOL. A "slick piece of propaganda" as you say? LOL!!!!!!!

guy faulkes said...

POV, for about the five hundredth time. being a Muslim does not mean that you follow the path of lesser jihad. The majority of Muslims are good people that deplore the followers of lesser jihad and those such as you that support them. They want these terrorists stopped as they harm innocent people and demean and belittle other Muslims in the eyes of those such as you that are so bigoted you cannot differentiate between the groups. We are at war with terrorists, not Muslims.

Once again I guess the fingers go in your ears and La La La begins.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Sark, Guy, HD and other Tea Bag Silly People"

And who is slinging insults? Can you say HYPOCRITE?!

LOL

Johnny Rico

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

You're out in the twilight zone come in a little so we can debate.

I don't care about your propaganda video "No Guns For Negros".
" What would you say to all the out of work Watauga County stone masons, carpenters, house painters, dry wallers and young boys looking to make a buck mowing grass in the summer who have had their jobs taken by criminals (illegal aliens)."

Both have families to feed, both have children they love and those children love them back and depend on them to provide a home , food to eat and the best opportunities possible. Johnny if you were brown with Spanish speaking family you would be doing the same for your family. Try walking in their shoes.
Spend your energy on their common enemies living in gated communities owning the politicians.
Ms Foxx is property of those living in the gated communities of Avery.

The brown people are not the enemy of white working poor lucky enough to be born in the USA.

Johnny I know I will not change your mind you will continue to live poor and vote rich, it's your right.

guy faulkes said...

POV, please quit being such a bigot.

Rico said nothing about brown people. She was referring to the criminals know as illegal aliens that are of all races.

It is shocking that you have admitted you do not care if the second amendment rights of blacks are violated.

Do you call the No Guns for Blacks video propaganda because it was produced by Jews?

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"I don't care about your propaganda video "No Guns For Negros"."

So we can take this to mean that you don't care that liberal policies promulgated by people like you routinely discriminate against inner city blacks. Are you saying inner city blacks shouldn't own guns, but it is ok for whitey in the suburbs to own them? AND WHO YOU CALLING A RACIST WILLIS?

Let me axe you another question. Why do you call this propaganda? Does this mean the video of the Rodney King beating was propaganda also? What about the the black man being lynched in Mississippi - was that propaganda?

Your deprivations against the Negro race are quite substantial. I knew you to be a racist bigot, but never understood the depths of your attitudes until now.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Both have families to feed, both have children they love and those children love them back and depend on them to provide a home , food to eat and the best opportunities possible"

So you go from saying out of work Watauga County residents are lazy people who take smoke breaks to this smoke and mirrors that both deserve something?

How is that. Criminals (illegal aliens) deserve nothing. They deserve to fix their own oppressive country like we did over 200 years ago. Nothing prevents Mexicans from taking up arms against their own country (except some of the strictest gun control laws in the world) and fixing the problem. Instead, they infest our once great nation, diluting it towards the same mess from whence they came! And you support this over the rights of out of work stone mason, carpenters, dry wallers, house painters, and young boy trying to make a buck mowing grass in the summer.

So, since you have still not answered the question, what would you tell all those out of work people that you are calling lazy and undeserving of smoke breaks (even though you support unions who support this very thing, tenfold).

LOL!!!

The labrinth of tough questions becomes ever deeper and more twisting with every moronic utterence from your well worn mouth.

LOL

Your ole pal

Sam

Johnny Rico

BikerBard said...

Lib POV:
Absolutely. Bush/Cheney/Rove prevented attacks, if you forget thst 9/11 Twin Towers thing, and that "Shoe-Bomber" thing, and that "Anthrax" thing. Other than that, and starting a war that has cost us billions of dollars and 4,000 military lives lost, and a country ravaged by war, they did a great job!

Note to Faux: You are still a hoot!

Professor Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Spend your energy on their common enemies living in gated communities owning the politicians."

Already tried that with you hypocrites. Handed that person to you on a silver platter, and you and your kind ran from the issue. When Kathleen McFadden, under the direction of Ken Ketchie at High Country Press, wouldn't print the story that outlines exactly who and what you are talking about, it sort of hit home that folks like you are hypocrites who talk a big talk, but do very little.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Tricycle Lard said:

"Other than that, and starting a war that has cost us billions of dollars and 4,000 military lives"

You and your kind supported the war and voted for it. Then you turn around and prolong the war though politically correct warfighting which has resulted in 4000 lives being lost. How does it feel to have the blood of Americans on your hands? Of course, you were spitting on returning Vets during Vietnam, so what does it matter to you? LOL!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS I think we can safely assume I won that one!!!!

Cassidy

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

Would you copy and paste where I said " Watauga County residents are lazy people "

You won't be able to which makes you dishonest.

The addiction to tobacco is costly to comsumers who hire tobacco addicted workers that can spend as much as 10% of their time smoking.

My personal experience is fewer Hispanic workers have a tobacco addiction.

The same would be an issue hiring a Non smoking Watauga Native born resident and a smoking Watauga Native born resident.
In todays work enviroment smoking can make the difference between being employed and being unemployed. That's the facts Jack or Johnny.

guy faulkes said...

POV, you have said on numerous occasions that illegal aliens did work that citizens of this country were to lazy to do. You did not specify just Watauga County. Your prejudice extends farther than merely the local area.

Why do you insist that all illegal aliens are Hispanic? I do not know if it is because you love Hispanics or hate them. Why do you prejudge a local person to be a user of tobacco? In either case, you are thus proven to be a bigot.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Would you get Oatz to show you how to cut and paste?
Then copy and paste where I made these comments.

"that illegal aliens did work that citizens of this country were to lazy to do."

Guy you become more dishonest with each post.

Sarkazein said...

In all the Blame Bush for Katrina coverage, not once did I hear the real cause of the levies failing.
Turns out Deputy Steven Seagal spilled the beans on his TV show. It was the Nutria. Not a smart bomb fired by President Bush as Farakahn said, but it was the undermining of the levies by the burrowing Nutria. This is the only thing that makes sense.
The Nutria was imported from South America by Edward A. McIlhenny a Democrat.

guy faulkes said...

POV, you have said it on numerous occasions. I am not going to waste my time going though your drivel to prove you are lieing. Sufficient to say you are either doing this or are once again presenting evidence of your information retention disorder.

Liberal POV said...

Guy


You can't backup your comments. Your caught being dishonest.

Liberal POV said...

GOP

How about getting the conservation back to Conservatives obsession with fear mongering and fear and hate addiction.

Sarkazein said...

POV- That is a conversation taking place in your head only. How many voices are you picking up in that conversation? Are they male, female, dogs, people or robotic?

BikerBard said...

Lib POV:
Since Sark(astic) said fear mongering is all in your head, what you said is untrue. Sark said so.

Forget whay you hear, see, and read from Beck, and Palin, and Limbaugh, and Guiliani, and Cheney (both)and even the good folks here on "A Watauga Conservative" and the fear garbage they spew.

Sark said it is not happening, so it's not happening.

Sark said so.

Liberal POV said...

BB

As we hve seem all of those you mention have the ability to pull facts right out of their ass.

Sarkazein said...

BB wrote "Forget whay you hear..."

Is that a Biblical expression?

Sarkazein said...

POV-

That is reason for you to keep up your HOPE. If I can pull facts out, some day you may be able to pull your head out.

Sarkazein said...

Someday...beat ya

Reader said...

My goodness.

RT Sender said...

Either we are at war with terrorists or we are not. If we are at war, then terrorists should get military trials, not civilian trials. If we are not, then Obama should have called for a repeal of the Patriot Act instead of expanding it. The inconsistancies of this administration will not benefit the people of the US in the long run.

guy faulkes said...

POV, the proper word is you're, not your. I do not have to prove anything. Everyone, including you, can remember you saying that the criminals you called undocumented workers and that are illegal aliens only took the difficult jobs that people in this country were to lazy to do.

BB apparently has been a bad influence on POV. POV did not used to be so crude. I guess water seeks its own level.

Reader, excellent logic concerning the Patriot Act. Your conclusion is irrefutable.

Sarkazein said...

RT Sender- "Long-run"? The short-run has been a huge mess.

Reader said...

Guy, I think you meant RT. Well said RT.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"POV, the proper word is you're, not your"

Gee thanks Guy, I notice you never make that mistake yourself or do people just give you a pass?
Does this mean you want to change the debate from your fear mongering and phony facts?

Mike D. said...

Guy,

I wouldn't criticize someone for using "your" instead of "you're" if my previous post contained the non-word "lieing".

The word is "lying", and it has been for centuries.

guy faulkes said...

MikeD, Spell Check needs to be proof read. Thank you. It does not change the fact POV is lying.

Reader, you are correct. My apologies RT, for crediting another with your excellent post.

POV I make many mistakes. However, I do not mind being corrected. It improves my posts.

BikerBard said...

Liberal POV:

Typical Faux move. When all else fails, go to grammar. He learned it at the foot of Sark. It's called a "diversion" for lack of substance or evidence.

guy faulkes said...

No BB, it is called communication. You need to learn how to do it correctly instead of in the manner of a rude Yankee (as indicated by MikeD on the Watch when he defended your posts by saying they were influenced by the culture in which you grew up) refugee running from the place you were displaced. You have gotten much better at making a point and being understood after coming to this site. Doing so has improved your communication skills in the written word immensely. You might soon reach the level of the normal fourth grader. Keep up the good work.

Mike D. said...

Guy,

Taking a tiny excerpt of personal, identifying information you have ferreted out about an individual from another post, and using it to bludgeon them, in any way, constitutes behavior that I would expect to see from Craig Dudley, but certainly not from you.

How's this? I was being silly. BikerBard is originally born to a family of lumberjacks from Manitoba, but he was adopted at a young age by a pair of queens from Rio de Janeiro; thus explaining the tolerance he has shown for your proclivity toward "de mens", as his adopted fathers used to giggle in their thick, lisping South American Portugese accent. Following a bad experience one year at Carnival, he absconded with a traveling troop of Shakespearean thespians, where he became an expert in the sweet science of linguistics. He then briefly moved to Brooklyn, picking up the vernacular as his adopted language. Finally, having sent the majority of his neighbors running to the local orthopedic proctologist to remove his foot from their arses, he decided to remove himself to the relative peace and quiet of Appalachia. However, he does still possess several large cans of whoop-ass, and he is not afraid to open one and just pour it all over someone who challenges him, so be careful!

BikerBard said...

Faux:
Fourth grade is a terminal degree for you down here, is it not? LOL!

Honest Debate said...

Thanks Mike D! That explains everything.

BikerBard said...

Note to Mike:
Thanks. Faux NEEDS to have a can of whoop-ass opened on him. But this is not a personal threat, Faux. I know how you cried to your girlfriends when you felt threatened the last time. No threat. Stay calm. I just hope SOMEONE will shut your big mouth for you sometime.

I imagine Faux, as a child, you were the puny one, trying to make friends so the others would stop beating you up, ratting out others to the teacher. And your parents must have been proud, your graduating from fourth grade, and all. Congratulations!

guy faulkes said...

BB, :-)

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Would you copy and paste where I said " Watauga County residents are lazy people "

Again sheep, I will not research for you what you said with your own keyboard. So now you say you never called out of work stone masons, carpenters, dry wallers, house painters, and young boys trying to make a buck in the summer mowing grass lazy individuals who are out of work because they are lazy and take smoke breaks while illegal aliens supposedly don't?

This is more selective memory by the liberal socialist sheep who believe only what they want to even when they are the one's who said it!!! Amazing.

So do you continue to call the above group lazy and deserving of having their jobs taken by criminals (illegal aliens)?

Your squirming, but not enough to dodge out of this extremely embarassing question. LOL!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Benny

Johnny Rico said...

Mike D(ummy) said:

"However, he does still possess several large cans of whoop-ass, and he is not afraid to open one and just pour it all over someone who challenges him, so be careful!"

Tricyle Lard couldn't fight his way out of an open field full of special needs children.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Sarkazein said...

More bad news for POV:

Sebastián Piñera, a billionaire businessman, has defeated Chile’s ruling leftist coalition.

Mike D. said...

Rico,

As long as I'm around, BikerBard wouldn't even need to lift a finger. Anyway, if you released hordes of special needs children to attack him, they would likely befriend him instead, then you and Guy would have me and my attitude, BikerBard and his cupboard full of canned whoop-ass, and a horde of special needs children to deal with. You wouldn't stand a chance. ;-)


Miss you on the other site, by the way. Your input was as valued as it was energetic. I think there was just so much of it that it was viewed as disruptive for the sake of being disruptive and rather than participation in a conversation. At least that's my guess, if the rumors are true that you were banned.

It's a shame if true, because I looked forward to your posts.

Simon Jester said...

MikeD did say he(BikerBard) acts the way he does because he was raised as your typical rude Yankee. MIkeD has also described him on the other blog by saying he(BikerBard) was large and strong with finely chiseled features. I do not care if MikeD thinks BikerBard looks like Brad Pitt, but it makes you wonder. (Hummm? And now MIkeD says he would fight for BikerBard? If there is smoke is there fire?) :-)

I modified a post from another thread because I thought it fit the way things wee going on this one.

J Rico said...

Mike D said:

"Miss you on the other site, by the way. Your input was as valued as it was energetic. I think there was just so much of it that it was viewed as disruptive for the sake of being disruptive and rather than participation in a conversation. At least that's my guess, if the rumors are true that you were banned."

Mike D,

Why thank you kindest of sirs. After Tricycle Lard started using curse words to describe me, I figured that I would make a concerted effort to take over Watauga Watch thread by thread using good, sound logic and facts. The other side sort of panicked for a couple of weeks before Pam Williamson and her liberal socialist hubby decided they had enough. I was banned which was most likely my hoped for outcome.

The fact that one can say a website, open to the public, banned them for asking difficult questions speaks volumes.

I admire your resolve to stick up for Tricyle Lard. You used sound reasoning and told it like it is, even if I don't like what you say. Good job. America needs more folks like you who can say what they mean and back it up.

As for you and Tricycle Lard squaring off against me, I doubt it would ever come to that as my feminine side cautions against a full blown, face to face, batter- your-head-in type contest. Instead, I find other methods to press the situation......

Mike, I have a question for you. If you were driving out, say, 194 towards Todd and came upon a vehicle accident in which a car was overturned and on fire with the sole occupant burning alive what would you do? What if this person was in such terrible pain that he/she BEGGED you to put them out of their tormet with the hunting rifle hanging in your gun rack. Would you do it, knowing if you didn't that this person would roast for another 10 minutes?

J. Rico

Johnny Rico

BikerBard said...

Mike:
If it's REEK-O in the car, shoot away! LOL!

Note to Simon:
You have quite a fixation on me. You strive to know all about my history. Are you planning to write my biography? Or are yhou in need of psycological help to divest yourself from this obsession?

Personally, I DO think you need some couch time.

Johnny Rico said...

I rest my case. Thank you Tricyle Lard - you played right into my little trap!!!!! And WHO is unstable on this site? LOL!! So easy.

Mike D. said...

Rico,

"I was banned which was most likely my hoped for outcome."

If this is the case, there can be no explanation other than that you achieved your goal. If you were trying to get banned, can you blame the site administrator for giving you your wish? You say you intentionally tried to dominate every thread for the express purpose of making yourself a big enough problem that you would get banned... and you got banned!

Congratulations! But I'm not sure why it is noteworthy for others on this site to denigrate the other site for banning someone who was trying to get banned???

I tell you what. Go into a bar, or a store, or a concert, or a museum, or anywhere, and try to get thrown out. You will have great success. But trash talking the establishment after you got exactly what you wanted is a bit unfair, don't you think?

If you were trying to engage in meaningful, civil dialogue, and because of some deficiency, some disability (being from Brooklyn or Philly, for instance), you sometimes angered others, then I would view it very differently, and I think you ought to receive a patient embrace from the community.

But everyone reading this, if honest, would agree that you can't let a person remain in your establishment, be it your home, business, or website, when that person is dedicated to getting kicked out by causing a commotion.

Mike D. said...

Rico,

To answer your question, "If you were driving out, say, 194 towards Todd and came upon a vehicle accident in which a car was overturned and on fire with the sole occupant burning alive what would you do?":


First, it's kind of a silly question, as I got rid of my car in 2000 because I did not want to give money to Communists or terrorists, so the likelihood of me driving out 194 is remote, but assuming I did:

1) I would call 911.

2) I would grab my fire extinguisher and try to put out the fire.

3) I would try to pull the person from the wreckage.

That is all I would do. It is not my right to end that person's life. How do I know if a rescue truck might arrive with better extraction tools moments later?

Sarkazein said...

J Rico-

If it had beenTerri Schiavo in the car, no problem, a liberal would put her out of her misery even if there was no fire, and they had to leave the scene, go to the gun store, and buy a rifle and return.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Keep it simple stay in the shallow end of the think tank.

You may one day change your mind when a Terri Schiavo type situation come to your own family.

Their is no way but Sark's way.

Do you believe in karma? I think life has some lesson in store for you.

BikerBard said...

Liberal POV:

Interesting post. I always wonder if those who post outrageous things have that very thing come back at them. Somehow, I think that is the only way some folks will learn.

Sark needs to divest himself of his hatred of "lib-brels." It is not getting him anyhere, and
he is not adding to the discourse.
It's just the "same 'ol, same 'ol."

To really think about it, I want to recind my comment about putting
REEK-O out of his misery. I don't wish a car wreck on anybody, not even REEK-O. And I'm sure REEK-O suffers enough. He is a painfully sad person. Sorry.

Johnny Rico said...

Mike D said:

"If you were trying to get banned, can you blame the site administrator for giving you your wish?"

No, and can you blame Ghandi for getting his wish? To draw attention to an egregious error, at personal expense, is sometimes what one has to resort to in order to accomplish the intended goal. This is what I did with Watauga Watch and look at the heat they are catching for doing the very thing they advocate against. All in all, I consider this a success even though I hunger to give those liberal lemmings a good pounding!!!!!!!

J. Rico

Mike D. said...

Rico,

I do not understand the flow of your logical comparison.

I said "can you blame the site administrator for giving you your wish?"

Let's call Johnny Rico 'A' and the site administrator 'B', therefore, "can 'A' blame 'B' for 'B' giving 'A' what he wants?"

Now let's do yours. You said "can you blame Ghandi(sic) for getting his wish?". In your statement, Mike D. is 'A', Gandhi is 'B', and England is 'C', therefore "can 'A' blame 'B' for 'C' giving 'B' what he wants?"

Even though you answered "no", that you cannot blame the site administrator for banning you when getting banned was your goal, your comparison leads me to believe that you did not understand my question at all. Had you asked "can Gandhi blame England for freeing India?", the mathematical logic would follow, and the answer would be, very clearly, "no, Gandhi can blame (or credit) himself and his followers for England freeing India".

Does any of this make sense to you?

Mike D. said...

Rico,

I guess what I am saying is, according to your own admission, you have no one but yourself to blame/credit for getting banned on the other site, and frankly, you seem quite proud of it.

For others to hold up your ban as proof of some sort of conspiratorial censorship is much ado about nothing, in my humble opinion.

BikerBard said...

Mike D.:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." - William Shakespeare

Sarkazein said...

BB-

"Librels"?

BikerBard said...

Sark:
The way it is pronounced around here, "Lib-brels." (sneer the "Lib" syllable and spit on the ground after the entire word.)

Sarkazein said...

BB-

Thank you for the clarification.

Honest Debate said...

Mike D. and Johnny Rico,

Your discussion is off topic, adds little and is interesting as can be. Nice work.

Note to libs: Johnny Rico gets under your skin but see how Mike D. threw the flag honestly and logically? That's how it's done. The balls now in Johnny's court. As they volley it becomes more interesting and less nasty. They are both expanding. It's beautiful.

Pardon me for being off topic and gratuitously insulting to libs.

Sarkazein said...

This is what happens when terrorists are treated like criminals because of the it's a law enforcement problem mindset:

By EILEEN SULLIVAN AND DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer – 53 mins ago
WASHINGTON – The nation's intelligence chief said Wednesday that the Christmas Day airline bombing suspect should have been treated as a terror suspect when the plane landed. That would have meant questioning him initially by special interrogators rather than standard law enforcement officers.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was interviewed by federal law enforcement investigators when Northwest Flight 253 landed in Detroit after he allegedly tried to detonate a homemade bomb sneaked through airport security in Nigeria and Amsterdam. Abdulmutallab is being held in a prison about 50 miles outside of Detroit.
Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair told the Senate Homeland Security Committee that he was not consulted on whether Abdulmutallab should be questioned by the recently created High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group, or HIG.
"That unit was created exactly for this purpose," Blair said. "We did not invoke the HIG in this case. We should have."

Mike D. said...

Rico,

You called me "Mike D(ummy)".

You sure you don't want to reconsider that?

;)

Reader said...

Sark, maybe they will reconsider what is going on in the minds of these terrorists, but it's doubtful. Airlines should install a little door at the bottom of their planes and just get rid of them before they land...it would save time and money.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Are you disapointed law enforcement and the Obama Admin choose not to use torture?

Maybe they know it doesn't work or the objective is to defeat Al Qeada not take revenge.

Why do you always go to the shallow end of the think tank?

BikerBard said...

HD:
Your point is well-taken. Now, what do you think about a gratuitously insulting greeting, "Dear Liberal Socialist Sheep?" I chose to respond in kind. Maybe that was not the right choice, but it was also an acknowledgement of an insult. And there are a LOT of gratuitous insults to "liberals" on this site. There are discussions ad nauseum about how bad they are, how they are ignorant, misguided, etc. Why can't we get to an understanding where we acknowledge that we just see the world differently??

I do appreciate the fact that you threw an insult and corrected yourself. We do need more of that on this site,including me.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

Note:The nation's intelligence chief said the Obama administration should have taken a different path.
Although I would take the job if offered after Obama's impeachment or resignation, it is good to know the nation's intelligence chief and I see eye to eye.
I am guessing the nation's intelligence chief has more expertise than Obama.

Sarkazein said...

Reader-

The pilot could give them the choice in mid-flight.
Exit through the door marked Allahu Akba, or be tortured in Illinois with 24-7 speeches by Obama trying to act folksy. I am guessing they would take door #1.

Mike D. said...

Did I scare Johnny Rico away or something?

I've never seen him run from a debate before.

Sarkazein said...

POV asked- "Why do you always go to the shallow end of the think tank?"

I keep hearing you calling for help.

Johnny Rico said...

Mike D (ummy) said,

"For others to hold up your ban as proof of some sort of conspiratorial censorship is much ado about nothing, in my humble opinion."

Your last post made absolutly no sense at all. Your parameters have nothing to do with mine, so why do you infer that your guesses are facts by which I operate? At any rate, my decision to expose an egregious situation at personal expense brought attention to the the situation, and now the truth is out. This was indeed a personal choice, however, like a true conservative, I was willing to accept the consequences of being banned for the overall greater good. Ghandi did the same thing.

The consequences, however, extended far beyond my not being able to access a blog. They went a good ways in exposing some essential truths about liberals and the methods liberals employ to advance their ever changing, polemic views. Racism, discrimination, censorship, bigotry, and hypocrisy were all included in my being banned from Watauga Watch. It sounds as if you don't agree with this somehow. Well if you don't, then great. I do agree with the tactic and have to wonder if Watauga Watch is defunct now because of this negative exposure.

As far as others upholding my banishment, that is their business; in my humble opinion.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Barb

Johnny Rico said...

Mike D(ummy),

"Did I scare Johnny Rico away or something?

I've never seen him run from a debate before"

LOL!!!! Whoa there, big guy, some of us have to make a living and do not have the time to fairy prance from blog to blog. Must be nice though.

You are trying very hard to press the battle, however your strategy is a bit flawed. Going head to head with me won't do it. You need to find a chink in the armor so to speak and capitalize on that weakness.

Venturing uneducated guesses as to why I did something or didn't do something only makes it look as if you are grasping.

At any rate, would you like to take up where Liberal Socialist Sheep POV and Tricyle Lard cannot tread and tell us what you think of the excellant video "No Guns For Negros"?

This ought to be interesting.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"I keep hearing you calling for help."

That could be but that's because I'm in the deeper end.

Mike D. said...

Rico,

"Your parameters have nothing to do with mine". -Rico

Exactly, so why did you make the comparison?

"my decision to expose an egregious situation at personal expense brought attention to the the situation, and now the truth is out" - Rico

Thank you, Captain Commander Detective Johnny Rico Whistleblower. I can't even imagine how difficult was your super silly "personal expense" in exposing the "egregious situation"!!! Did you lose your parents over a cliff as you had to decide what you would hold onto, their hands or your important piece of proof that a liberal blog is liberal??? How traumatic your silly "consequences" must have been!!!

You sir, are a hero! There, I said it!

I mean, to sacrifice like that for the greater good..... just wow!!!


Ummmmmm, so.... as you have so vehemently criticized others for ignoring your central point, let's recap, and I'll add delays, so your super-brain doesn't miss it:

YOU.... WANTED.... TO.... GET..... BANNED.... AND.... YOU.... GOT.... BANNED.

"I was banned which was most likely my hoped for outcome" - Johnny Rico

Dude, you admitted it. So why the fuss?

He wanted to get in a fight. He got in a fight.

He wanted to get kicked out. He got kicked out.

He wanted to get arrested. He got arrested.

He wanted to get banned. He got banned.

Should I repeat it a few more times? Maybe I should make the delays longer so your super-brain doesn't miss it?

Mike D. said...

It's ok, Rico,

You lost. Everybody knows it.

Move on to the next debate and try to think a little more deeply next time before you blurt out obviously illogical statements.

Honest Debate said...

Lib wrote:

Sark

"I keep hearing you calling for help."

That could be but that's because I'm in the deeper end.

You're in over your head.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"You're in over your head."

That's what you do in the deep end as opposed to wallowing in the mud of fear and lazy thinking at the shallow end of the think tank.

BikerBard said...

Mike D:

I'm not sure REEK-O can think more deeply. He is so caught up in his rhetoric, and obsessed for weeks on this "guns/Negro" thing, he can't see straight.

And you want him to take a pause and think?

guy faulkes said...

BB, why have you not answered the question about the No Gus for Negroes video? You keep running from it. Rico does not let you forget. Your avoidance of the issue indicates your lack of credibility.

Are you ashamed of the point made by the video? You have to have some kind of opinion.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

You are being sucked down to the main drain. Call John Edwards to sue for entrapment. He could use some more money to support the wife and kids and the kid.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Did you see ABC NEWS last night? The story was about the childrens dential clinic Small Smiles ( http://www.smallsmilesusa.com/ ) It was not only stealing Medicare tax payer dollars but putting low income children through excesive pain doing unneeded procedures.

Story here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbetHFdQYn8
I hope John Edwards does get to sue these criminals.

You want to protect these criminals with malpractice limits.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

Well, thankfully, Edwards is not the AG and is still only an ambulance chaser. At least up until the time he goes to prison for skimming off his campaign funds to give to his baby momma. It is under investigation you know. Boy is he going to be popular behind bars.
Your dental story is a criminal matter, not a shyster matter. That government funded health-care really works good doesn't it?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Not all attorneys are nice people. Wow! That's news but they also provide a service to the public just as dentist do. I'm sure Edward's will have his day in court.

"Your dental story is a criminal matter, not a shyster matter. That government funded health-care really works good doesn't it?"



This segment of society was targeted not just for medicaid benefits but because these people were little threat of a malpractice law suit.
This like so many of todays problems can be traced to corporate greed and corporate royalty arrogance as with Edward's or banking bonuses.

Lets take the profit out of health care if you need health care go get treated.

Lets have ALL government officials on the same health care plan as Americans with the least income.

Let Ms Foxx and Richard Burr's families receive health care treatment under the Health Care plan they prepose for the poorest Americans.

The corporate royality should also share that system as should you.
To a large extend you do if you have an accident or heart attack and enter a clogged emergency room.

Sarkazein said...

POV wrote-"Lets take the profit out of health care if you need health care go get treated."


Who is going to treat you, slaves?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Who delivers my mail, provides fire protection, police protection, court system, military, Coast Guard, Forest Service, National Parks, Air Traffic Control, Public Education, Major Universites ( UNC, NC State, Texas A&M )?

Sarkazein said...

POV asks- "Who delivers my mail, provides fire protection, police protection, court system, military, Coast Guard, Forest Service, National Parks, Air Traffic Control, Public Education, Major Universites ( UNC, NC State, Texas A&M )?"

Not doctors.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Why can the medical profession not be paid by the government?

Does the for profit system mean better medical professionals or wealther and sometimes less professional industry as was the case with Small Smiles?

BikerBard said...

Faux:

To paraphrase Sark on a previous occasion, that post is so ridiculous that it bears no response from me. Or, "I am the great BikerBard (or Sark.) I decide what to answer, not you, peons." How's that impression, Sark?

To stay singularly fixated is the mark of a simpleton.

guy faulkes said...

POV, people expect to be paid their worth. I do not cast any aspersions on any of the professions you mention. However, I do not know how many practitioners of these occupations could graduate from medical school.

Your error is not that the government cannot pay doctors. It does all ready. It was paying the terrorist at Fort Hood. It is that the government cannot set the worth for practicing medicine. If doctors are limited as to their worth, the caliber of people practicing medicine is going to adjust itself accordingly. In spite of your cockamamie beliefs, the free market works. When the market is no longer free, the value (not only monetarily but effectively and professionally) is lessened.

Another advantage of the free market is that in any niche, competition brings the price down and improves the quality of the good or service being sold.

If you want to lower the cost of health care, tort reform and selling insurance across state line will do more to accomplish this than anything.

Sarkazein said...

BB wrote-" Or, "I am the great BikerBard (or Sark.) I decide what to answer, not you, peons." How's that impression, Sark?"


Easier in writing for you, as it didn't require a masculine voice.

Sarkazein said...

Again the Lefties drop their desire for choice. The individual decides he wants to be a doctor. Twelve years+ later, he is a doctor if he passes everything.

YOU want to be able to tell him how much he can make? At least you would have fewer doctors to deal with.
If a doctor chooses to work for the government, which there are some good ones, it is HIS choice, not you comrades out there.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

The price of health-care sky-rocketed as the government got involved and as lawyers dropped their class requirement.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Lets get on the same page first.

Do you know anout the denist at Small Smiles torturing ( unnecessary dental root canals) low income children on medicaid for profit?

Story here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbetHFdQYn8

We have some mighty fine doctors that don't have huge wealth.

We also have doctors in rural America that could use some help and a shorter work week.
We have doctors who would like to practice medicine and not have to deal with insurance companies.

Your tort reform would have protected the folks at Small Smiles from the $24 million law suit for money returned to the states they opperate.

Catch up let me know what you think of small smiles.

Did the greed factor make a better doctor or worst doctor in the case of Small Smiles?

guy faulkes said...

POV, once again, you miss the point. Tort reform does not protect doctors from anything but frivolous lawsuit.

Why do you think all dentists should be punished because of the actions of a few? Could it be that you have moved from socialism to Communism? It would be better by far if you could ever grasp the concept of individual responsibility.

Also, once again, in the free market, you are paid what you are worth. Some doctors work in markets that are not as lucrative as others. That is their decision. The government did not make t for them.

As a matter of fact, you just proved the point that under the socialized medicine you so desire, there is no incentive to be as good as you can be.

Mike D. said...

Johnny Rico,

Who knew that when confronted logically and intellectually, you would flee like a little girl.


Let me repeat for you:

Ummmmmm, so.... as you have so vehemently criticized others for ignoring your central point, let's recap, and I'll add delays, so your super-brain doesn't miss it:

YOU.... WANTED.... TO.... GET..... BANNED.... AND.... YOU.... GOT.... BANNED.

"I was banned which was most likely my hoped for outcome" - Johnny Rico

You fail.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Does our current system of insurance and medicare controled medicine make for better medicine than a single payer system as in Canada?

Does a doctor's wealth indicate how good a doctor he or she is?
Does the greed or for profit system get in the way of delievering better health care?
I do believe doctors should be paid very well and have time off. Canada seems to have it right.
I contend that health care is a basic human right.

The out pouring of help for the people of Haiti from all over the world says the world also sees health care as a basic human right.

Your own world view is tested here because not even you would denie medical treatment to the people of Haiti because they have no money to pay.

The same should be true here in America.

guy faulkes said...

POV, let me answer your questions, many for about the 50th. time.

"Does our current system of insurance and medicare controled medicine make for better medicine than a single payer system as in Canada?" Yes. This is why so many flee the Canadian system in order to receive health care here.

"Does a doctor's wealth indicate how good a doctor he or she is?" Not wealth per say. He could have inherited wealth. The amount of money he receives as compensation for his services in his local market is a very good indicator of his competency.

"Does the greed or for profit system get in the way of delievering better health care?" No. First of all, it is not greedy to expect to be paid your worth. Secondly, completion always results in a cheaper better product or service.


"I do believe doctors should be paid very well and have time off. Canada seems to have it right.
I contend that health care is a basic human right." You are wrong. I am not responsible for you. The rationed health care and the quality of said care in Canada causes its citizens to flee to the United States for health care.

"The out pouring of help for the people of Haiti from all over the world says the world also sees health care as a basic human right." Once again you are wrong. The aid to Haiti does not just include health care. This aid reflects that people are people and will help those in need. They do not have to be forced to do so by a government that skims most of the monies used to provide this aid off the top for expenses.

"Your own world view is tested here because not even you would denie medical treatment to the people of Haiti because they have no money to pay." Wrong again. I gave of my own free will, not because a socialist government required me to do so. Also, aid is not just medical care. It is food, water, housing, helping these people do away with the corrupt government they have, etc. They do not have a right to any of this charity except for reforming their government. They not only have the right, but the duty to do that in order to instigate the free market system in their country and advance themselves out of poverty.

"The same should be true here in America." Only if one desires America (the United States, there is more than one country in America - Canada, Mexico, ... for instance) to become a third word country such as Haiti.

Out of deference to Reader, I will not correct your spelling errors. I will advise you Spell Check is available.

BikerBard said...

"You are wrong. I am not responsible for you."-Faux

How do you reconcile that with your Christian values? Did not Christ help the poor and the infirm?

"If the little guy has no health care, screw him! See you Sunday in church, guys!" - Faux?

guy faulkes said...

bb, why do you think POV is poor and infirm. At most he is a recipient of thee gimme, gimme entitlement system. He says he is not even that and is successful.


My Christian values tell me what I need to do to help those I feel deserve it. These include the poor and infirm. They do not include government excess and abuse. Help should go directly to these people, not government waste.

BB, if you want to argue religion, what to you think of rendering unto God that which is God's and to Caesar (the government) that which is Caesar's (taxes). Fortunately we get to decide how much Caesar can tax. Now that Obama and company are on their way out, taxes will be cut.

Sarkazein said...

BB wrote- "How do you reconcile that with your Christian values? Did not Christ help the poor and the infirm?"

First of all, what happened to the Lefty's version of freedom from religion?

I promise you, He did not do His work through a joint effort with Ponchus Pilot, or any government. Or, are you thinking Christianity is a form of government?

In other-words, yours is a weak weak comment.

BikerBard said...

Sark:
Well, I guess if YOU say it is so. it is so.

This is the word of Sark. Amen!

Sarkazein said...

BB wrote- "Sark:
Well, I guess if YOU say it is so. it is so.

This is the word of Sark. Amen!"


I think the word you are looking for is UNCLE