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Saturday, January 9, 2010

Who Are The Racist?

There's a book out that's causing a bit of a ruckus. It's entitled "Game Change: Obama and the Clintons, McCain and Palin, and the Race of a Lifetime", by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin. Of note are remarks by Harry Reid and Bill Clinton regarding Obama's race.

Harry Reid referred privately to Obama as a "light-skinned" African American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one". He has since apologized. I don't really have a problem with his statement in racial terms. I don't think Harry Reid is a racist but it does shine light on his view that the average American is.

The book also reveals a possible reason for the friction between Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Clinton described Obama to Kennedy this way: "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee". Again, I'll give Clinton a pass. I don't think he's a racist. It makes just as much sense to infer he was attempting to appeal to Teddy's elitist side...with a few racial overtones just in case Teddy has a little streak. It turns out he didn't.

These two incidents underscore the left's obsession with race. They show how awful Obama has been for any dialog regarding race in America. It's all about the color of your skin. If only they could judge a person by the content of their character instead.

106 comments:

Sarkazein said...

I think Bill Clinton is a racist. Remember Bill Clinton's mentor, Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas.
Remember Biden's remark indicating he thought it was unusual for Blacks to be clean. Remember Byrd's "white nigger" comment.
All the racist Left thinks Black people need "special" coddling... proving to be the worst and most socially damaging kind of bigotry and racism.

BikerBard said...

I think Virginia Foxx is a racist. Her comment on "tarbaby" was insensitive and belied her true feelings.
I think those of you who use "Huessein" as Pres. Obama's middle name are racist. We all know his middle name. Using it now is to remind all of it's Muslem roots and how we hate all Muslems. Racist, racist, racist.
And finally, I think much of the bluster over Pres. Obama has racist overtones. People showing up at rallies with guns strapped to their legs - we get the message. You can't handle the idea of a black man in office.

Now, tell me about all the friends you have who are black.

bridle said...

I agree with HD for the most part. It's a tempest in teapot and distracts us from any issues that matter in the long run. It's too bad HD has to continue in his entrenched habit of blaming "the left" or "liberals" for the controversy. S/He could easily have made his point without being divisive and partisan. (Isn't it Michael Steele who is raising the biggest stink about this?)

Sarkazein said...

How many times have the Lefties proclaimed bigotry when someone disagrees with the clean, white sounding, non-servant like Obama?

bridle said...

Sark - What I hear you saying is "two wrongs make a right"?

Sarkazein said...

I forgot about about the Huessein race.

Let's see, there's Caucasian, Asian, Negro....and Huesseinoids... right.

Sarkazein said...

I remember the one wrong, being called a racist when not accepting a radical Leftists, what was the other related one?

guy faulkes said...

It is not deniable that race was the major factor in Obama's victory. Ninety five percent of blacks voted for him. When this is added to the "white guilt" liberals, then probably twenty percent of all voters cast their vote in favor of Obama due to race. I have many conservative black friends that to a person voted for him because he was black and admitted it.

Of course, there were some that voted against him because he was black, but not many comparatively.

A disproportionate number of blacks have fallen into the coddling entitlement programs that enslave them to poverty so that their votes will be assured for the liberals, but they are not the only people to have done so. I have relatives that have been in this situation for generations. These people would never vote for a conservative that would force those that were able to work to do so.

Of Course, Obama's policies may have made the ability to work a thing of the past. If he is successful in totally destroying the economy to promote socialism, then the liberals have won their long term goal. They will be public masters forever. This is the reason people do not like Obama. Race has nothing to do with it nor does the ability to protect yourself as guaranteed by the Constitution.

A friend of mine once made an interesting point. We are a nation of mongrels. Over the years the races had interbred innumerable times. Many times this was hidden. How does the Grand Master of the KKK know he does not have a black ancestor or how does Reverend Wright know he does not have a white one? The use of race as a determination of competency or any thing else is ridiculous.

bridle said...

Guy, surely heck has frozen over. I agree with you 100% about the nation of mongrels. In fact biology teaches us that every human is cousin to every other human. We are a young species and genetically very closely related to everyone else on the planet.

Sarkazein said...

Bridle-

Don't forget the monkeys. Now if we can just figure out why some monkeys became human and some monkeys remained monkeys.

bridle said...

Cogitate on this one for a while, Sark.

Sarkazein said...

"this one" proves my point. Another new theory. Don't like this theory, just wait... a new one will come along. Throw in the phrase "studies have shown" makes it even more believable.

Honest Debate said...

Bridle you wrote: "It's too bad HD has to continue in his entrenched habit of blaming "the left" or "liberals" for the controversy."

I have a hard time reading you. You seem to want to be reasonable at times.

The "controversy" regarding this post was made by Liberals (Harry Reid and Bill Clinton). It wouldn't make sense to blame conservatives. My point is that most liberals see the world through the lens of race. BikerBard was right on cue to illustrate. He knows nothing of my heart yet spews hate so vile that I won't dignify it. You ignore it and criticize me for "being divisive and partisan", fine.

You see, the thing is, it bothers me greatly that there are more college age black males in jail than in college. It bothers me greatly that 70% of black families have an absent father. I bothers me greatly that good men like Trent Lott and George Allen can have their political careers ruined by a label that doesn't fit. It bothers me greatly in this census year there are so many categories for race. The left did this. They may have meant well but the war on poverty has been a disaster for black families.

I was not being flip with my lament. I do wish the left would judge by the content of character. If you're serious about the nation of mongrels then join me in denouncing having to state your race on any form for any reason. Join me in denouncing racial preferences. Let's toughen up enough to not be paralyzed by the fear of being labeled racist. It would help in the war on terror.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, Bridle's point about a young species all being related would seem to confirm Adam and Eve, or even more recently Noah. The Bible has always indicated all mankind is related.

bridle said...

Guy - You can't use scientific evidence to prove or disprove anything supernatural. Science by definition is based on natural law. Anything supernatural, by definition cannot be constrained or described by natural laws. The molecular (DNA) evidence that tells us we are a young (150 -200 k years)species is the same molecular evidence that supports current evolutionary theory.

bridle said...

HD- I wish you would stop using the term "the left". Honestly there are racist left wing people, black and white, just as there are racist right wing people.
I would support a ban on using racial quotas as soon as the evidence shows that rich people, poor people, white people, yellow, brown, purple and short people all have equal access to opportunity in this country.
Do you really think that G.W.Bush got into Harvard based on his academic ability? Or that John McCain would have gotten into the Navel Academy if his skin had been black and his father not an admiral? Do you not believe that the Kennedy family has an advantage in anything they wish to do because of their wealth and political connections?
I don't think people should get jobs they are unqualified for, but many times (I have seen this on a local level) people have access to jobs and opportunities based on who they know, rather than what they know. Think about Michael Brown and FEEMA. Sometimes quotas are necessary to force institutions out of that rut. What is your solution to the problem of privileged less qualified people having an unfair advantage over lower class or minority people who may be smarter and more able, but never have the chance to show it?

Sarkazein said...

"...based on his academic ability? Or that John McCain would have gotten into the Navel Academy if his skin had been black and his father not an admiral? "-Bridle


No Blacks have ever gotten in to the Naval (NAVEL as Bridle spells it) Academy that didn't have Black Admiral fathers.

guy faulkes said...

Bridle, I am not very successful, but I am the proof anyone can succeed without government help if they try. Maybe they do not go to Harvard. Maybe they go to ASU. Do you have a problem with that? If those on the gimme, gimme, gravy train were motivated to improve their lot instead of voting themselves bread and circuses, they would be much better off.

Where are you getting the supernatural issues? Both you and I say that mankind descended from one woman. What exactly makes the concept of a Higher Power supernatural? It would appear that this concept is the epitome of nature.

I personally do not think that the concepts of science and God is exclusive. After all, God created science as just another way to define His work. The problem comes with the various interpretations we, as people, put on the ever changing discoveries of science. For instance, hopefully God is not finished with us, so do you have a problem with Creation through evolution?

Anonymous said...

Sark - What is your point? That the only way a black person can get into the NAVAL academy is to have pull? Umm... OK. You may be right.

bridle said...

Guy, many scientists can hold God and science in their minds without a problem. I just don't experience the need to. It doesn't work for me but I'm happy if it does for others.
You were able to succeed by dint of hard work, no doubt. But do you think that if everyone had doubted you and told you that you were inferior as you grew up it might have sapped your energy and drive? If no one was willing to give you a chance, and you were kept out of college prep classes or not considered for responsible positions, or denied loans, because of your color or gender, might you not have given up hope?
Suppose no one looks at you in a friendly way as you walk down the street. Suppose no one talks to you in church. Suppose you have to eat by yourself in school. Would you have been successful in the face of all these barriers?
I have seen all these things happen to black people, and worse. It would certainly wear me down and make me want to give up.
Can you not acknowledge that you have had the benefit of a supportive social environment and that not everyone is as lucky as you?

bridle said...

HD - I thought your post was saying that those stupid comments made by Clinton and Reid were not indicative of racism. In this case, Obama - who is a black man on the left, has shrugged them off, while Steele, a black man on the right is raising a nasty ruckus about them. So who exactly is obsessed by race then? The right-winger, no?

Sarkazein said...

Bridle-

You ask if one can admit that everyone is not as lucky as another. This is where liberalism destroys society. It lives in a make believe world called Utopia.
That would be fine, except liberals must have their lack of reality forced on all by laws and court rulings.
Thus destroying all and causing things like H.D wrote in his comment about the jails and the families.
Live in your world of pretend, but don't drag the rest of society down with you by government mandate.

It is proven by the fact that the only thing you got out of Guy Faulke's comment was that he had "luck", not hard work, not overcame obstacles, not persistence, just luck because he is white. If this were even remotely realistic, all white people would be successful, and all minorities (specifically the Blacks) would not be. Reality says different. If you get your political beliefs in to the real world, you will shed yourself of the liberal white guilt.

Sarkazein said...

"No Blacks have ever gotten in to the Naval (NAVEL as Bridle spells it) Academy that didn't have Black Admiral fathers."-Sarkazien


A'mous- In other words, MANY Blacks and other minorities have been accepted in to the Naval Academy, even though their fathers were not Admirals.
What Ivy League school was Obama accepted? Was his father a legacy... was Clinton's father a legacy?
The opportunity is there for all, but all don't succeed. White, Black, Huessaniens, Asians...some do and some don't. That is reality, and a good thing.

bridle said...

Sark, I'm sure the blacks who got into the Naval academy had sterling academic credentials, unlike McCain who has a long history of screwing up yet still got opportunities handed to him on a silver platter. Obama got into Harvard because he is incredibly brilliant, unlike Bush (who also has a long history of screwing up, but still gets many opportunities handed to him).
You didn't read my post. I acknowledged Guy's hard work. But it takes more than hard work. I know a lot of hard workers who because of circumstances beyond their control are living on the edge.
I do not have liberal guilt, just compassion and the ability to recognize that there but for the grace of God (metaphorically speaking) go I.

guy faulkes said...

Bridle, in high school I was given poor grades on papers I had written because my "progressive" teachers were of the opinion that I could not have written them and had plagiarized them. White trash was not supposed to be able to communicate with the written word. I actually dummied up some of these papers because I refused to have to prove myself to these liberal swine. I had three really good teachers during my pre-college days and three that were adequate. The rest were drawing paychecks and complaining about their salaries. Do not talk to me about succeeding because these people believed in me. I succeeded in spite of them. They had me pigeonholed because of my appearance , my economic status, and the manner in which I talked. I had to fight to get into college prep classes, including taking placement tests. I refused to let any bastard determine my worth.

These fools never realized that while one may talk in one manner, he probably writes in another. After all, I learned to talk behind a barn, playing with others. I learned to read from my mother. I could do so at the age of three or four. School bored the Hell out of me and I responded accordingly.

All this means is that the desire to succeed is what is required for success. I have been knocked down many times, but the only way I will stay down is if you kill me. There is nothing special about me. If I can succeed anyone can.

My only advantage was in having a family that valued education over schooling. I had a uncle that went as far as the third grade. He was one of the best read men I have ever met. When I was eight or nine, he gave me his copy of Ivanhoe while teaching me proper trigger control when shooting a rifle. For those of my liberal friends that think schools are the most important part of education, please do not be offended when I tell you that you are full of male bovine fecal matter. As far as I know, race has nothing to do with supporting your children's education. It is far more important that you love to read than what race you happen to belong to or have been categorized as. ( I am confused as to why Mr. Obama is considered black. Did he not have a white mother?)

My disadvantage was that my family did not put much emphasis on material well being. They were content to work for others and go with the status quo.

Most that have the desire for success have succeeded. You should hear some of the stories of my black friends. Most of them say you can take special treatment and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Unfortunately, Obama's socialist policies are robbing many of us of our success and what we have labored for our entire lives. These policies are stealing the products of success from those that earned them form nothing and giving those products to those that would not even try to better themselves.

I am rather irate at the current time. Hopefully this posts makes sense. I fear it rambles to much. Thanks for letting me vent.

Sarkazein said...

Bridle-

I can guarantee there have been many a Black person watching you walk by have said to themselves or their homies; "There but for the grace of God (you almost admitted it) go I.

WHERE do you get you superiority?

Sarkazein said...

Bridle-

As to the rest of your comment where you pronounce who is intelligent and who is not, where do you get your superior than thou attitude to do so?

Sarkazein said...

Bush has a history of screwing up but Obama doesn't.
Did you not read one of Obama's books about himself? Did you not hear Obama explain to the school kids how he was a doper?

Sarkazein said...

Bridle - Did you know there are "typical white people"?

bridle said...

Guy, You obviously have a chip on your shoulder about your upbringing. When people come up from difficult circumstances they can go two routes. They can have compassion and try to help others achieve also, or they can develop the attitude that "nobody helped me, so no one else deserves help either".
Let me remind you that you could hide your redneck background just by getting a haircut and nice clothes. It's more difficult to hide a dark skin.
As for Obama being black, it doesn't matter to some people what his mother was. As long as he has dark skin he is considered subhuman. If you are honest you can admit that fact. We both know it's a stupid, dangerous, and destructive attitude.

Sarkazein said...

This is where the liberal goes insane, if a person doesn't think the government should be the purveyor of charity, then charity does not exist.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.

" When people come up from difficult circumstances they can go two routes. They can have compassion and try to help others achieve also, or they can develop the attitude that "nobody helped me, so no one else deserves help either".-Bridal

In Bridal's comment he says only liberals wanting government to mandate charity are charitable.

Sarkazein said...

Bridle wrote: "It's more difficult to hide a dark skin.
As for Obama being black, it doesn't matter to some people what his mother was. As long as he has dark skin he is considered subhuman. If you are honest you can admit that fact. We both know it's a stupid, dangerous, and destructive attitude."


It may be a stupid attitude, but you own it, don't project your bigotries on to me. If you are honest, you will admit this is your conception, and certainly not everyone else's. You need help.

Honest Debate said...

Bridle you asked: "What is your solution to the problem of privileged less qualified people having an unfair advantage over lower class or minority people who may be smarter and more able, but never have the chance to show it?"

What does one's race have to do with any of that? Liberal policies have told blacks that they are unequal so need an artificial advantage. They are told the white man is holding them down. It's BS. Everyone in America has equal opportunity under the law. You want to legislate equal outcome.

bridle said...

No HD - Not equal outcome. Just equal opportunity.

Honest Debate said...

Bridle,

As I said I don't really consider the remarks by Clinton and Reid racist. Steele's deal is the double standard. He cites Trent Lott and he's right, if Lott was thrown out then Reid should be too. The left, oops sorry, the liberal Democrats made the rules.

Honest Debate said...

Yes Bridal, you want equal outcome. What opportunities are denied based on race? I'm not referring to whites being denied opportunities under the law. There's plenty of that. Tell me, where does the law say blacks have to sit at the back of the bus?

guy faulkes said...

Bridlel, when I was growing up, we did not have money for nice clothes. I wore my hair in a buzz cut that could be done at home.

I find it presumptions for you to say I have no compassion. I have donated thousands of dollars to educational concerns, both here and other places. Many times I could not really afford to do so. I did this because I knew many people think the school system is responsible for their children's education and do little to nothing for them at home. I was trying to take up some of the slack this warped sense of values produces. I want every child to be a successful entrepreneur. Then, even if they will not take care of me in my old age, I will at least not have to take care of them.

I have to say I am offended by your statement that I have no compassion. I would venture to say that I have personally given more of my own free will than you have either cumulatively or proportionally. If so much money had not been stolen from me in taxes, I could have afforded to do more. The difference between us is that you want the government to take my money, skim the majority of it off the top for "expenses", and distribute the rest as the government sees fit, ofttimes wasting it. I want to make sure my money benefits those that deserve the help and not some fat bureaucrat.

By the way, a redneck background is not something that needs be hidden. All the term redneck means is that someone works outside and gets sunburned. We are the people that grow your food; build your houses; build your roads, dams, and skyscrapers; produce your electricity; and fight your wars when we have to. I am pretty proud of my redneck heritage. By the way, you certainly do not have to be white to be a redneck.

I believe the more shameful background is that of the elitist liberal held by many of my teachers.

Did we just not agree that it is pretty hard for anyone be of pure race in this country? As Sark said, this subhuman crap belongs to bigots. Hopefully the majority of us do not fit that category any more.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

Thanks for the great Sunday reading.

Honest Debate said...

Obama on Trent Lott: "The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott. If they have to stand for something, they have to stand up and say this is not the person we want representing our party.”

Obama on Don Imus: “I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”

Obama on Harry Reid: "Harry Reid called me today and apologized for an unfortunate comment reported today,” President Obama said in a statement today. “I accepted Harry’s apology without question because I’ve known him for years, I’ve seen the passionate leadership he’s shown on issues of social justice and I know what’s in his heart. As far as I am concerned, the book is closed.”

Honest Debate said...

Geraldo, Ann and Al.

Sarkazein said...

There are so many things wrong, on so many levels, with Reid's statement. At least there can be no denial of the double standard by anyone any more.
Liberalism can not be honest on it's own... it must have it's nose rubbed in it.

oatz said...

Lets see the Dem majority is held because of three non-elected members. Obamas' old seat, Kennedys old seat, and Hilarys old seat all of which were appointed not won by special elections. Harry Reids' dismissal would be cause enough for all Democrats including Obama to waffle on their moral outrage. Typical! BikerBard labeler! In the post-racial America you continually hurl labels at people "Hope"ing to get one to stick.

guy faulkes said...

Liberal equals hypocrite. There is no longer room for debate on this issue. There have been to many examples on to many occasions.

Johnny Rico said...

Does Liberal Socialist Sheep POV, Tricycle Lard, or Honest Debate want to comment on "No Guns For Negros" video and still contend they are not racists? Negros have been discriminated against by way of the 2nd Amendment for hundreds of years now. Why do liberals want to disarm them?

Johnny Rico

Honest Debate said...

Johnny Rico,

I missed the video but if you will repost I'll check it out. Let me clarify. While I stand by my comment that I don't believe Clinton or Reid are racists, I do think liberal policies are. Affirmative action is judging by the color of skin. I'll take Martin Luther King Jr. over Rev. Wright any day of the week. I reread King's "I have a dream speech" yesterday. It's great. He must be rolling over in his grave at the sorry state we've gotten to with Obama. Dr. King was the antithesis to everything Obama stands for. Then again he was a Republican.

Liberal policies are directly responsible for the disproportionate number of blacks in jail and single parent black families. Those who say they want a colorblind society don't mean it when push comes to shove.

Back to Clinton and Reid. They may well have racist views that match their racist policies but I don't know that. I get sick of the double standard and think everyone should chill. Don Imus, George Allen, Trent Lott, Clinton, Reid and even Byrd should be able to say what they want without the collective conniption. Even if one is racist, so what? It's a dying notion, just let it die. The Dems won't let it and see it everywhere they look, especially our President. We should be able to call a radical Islamist a radical Islamist.

Honest Debate said...

BikerBard, LiberalPOV, Bridle and the rest,

Here's your chance. If you will admit that you do want to judge by the color of one's skin then you will at least be intellectually honest. Either that or explain how affirmative action can work without knowing the color of ones skin. You can't have it both ways.

Please don't run from this.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, I am glad you enjoyed my venting. When I get mad, I get verbose. I could not help it. Every post Bridle made seemed to be directly related to things I found objectionable in my life.

Bridle, I mean you no personal animosity. You believe the things you believe and I do the same. The world keeps turning.

Preaching is over.

Sarkazein said...

If you Lefties out there don't recognize this new reality, this is the PC world you have created. That's right, you have to live in it too. The new media is exposing you to the world you have created.

Honest Debate said...

Guy, I agree with Sark. Preach all you want.

guy faulkes said...

HD, here is a link to No Guns For Negros. It was produced by the organization Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. It is an excellent video, but it is over twenty minutes long. This puts it beyond the attention span of many of our liberal friends. It certainly proves gun laws are racist and sexist.

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/movieplay-ngn-swf.htm

Johnny Rico said...

Honest Debate,

I did not mean to include you with the liberal morons. It was a mistake.

As for "No Guns For Negros", the Watauga Watch was so upset at being called on their rampant racism by this video, that they began banning those who even talked about it!!! Amazing. They had not an arguement to the contrary, but they sure didn't agree with it. Strange not agreeing with something when you can't explain why!!!! LOL!!!

Any liberal socialist sheep want to take a crack at this? LOL

Johnny Rico

Billy

Honest Debate said...

Upon reflection, I am splitting hairs. In my mind I see a difference in racism and racist policies yet when I write it down it looks like a distinction without a difference. If someone assumes blacks (and let's be honest no one's talking about Asians) need a leg up to be equal then that's racist. If someone voted for Obama based on race then that's racist. If someone assumes blacks are poor and uneducated, it's racist. If someone's view of America is that a light-skinned white-talking black man is the only kind of "negro" that can be elected, it's racist.

Sarkazein said...

H.D-
Well said, and don't forget the rare "clean" ones also.
One absolutely has to be racist to utter that quote.
Thank you Joe Biden.

Sarkazein said...

When I hear a man preach, I like to see him act as if he were fighting bees.


Abraham Lincoln (R)

Honest Debate said...

Sark,

Good one, I forgot about Biden.

The Dems like Colin Powell who is light-skinned without a negro dialect. They don't like Alan Keyes or Clarence Thomas who are very dark-skinned. Maybe they're being consistent. I wonder how they would explain the popularity of the dark-skinned Oprah or Michael Jordon. Don't forget Snoop-Dog, he's got the negro dialect and the dark skin. Libs love him. I just got off the phone with my very close, very black friend Percy. The white women swoon and the rednecks cheer. I can't figure it out.

oatz said...

“The way he said it was quite awkward, but nonetheless, not offensive. That what he said was actually part of a calculus as to why he believed Barack Obama could be elected in this country today.”

NAACP Rep. Hilary Shelton
On Harry Reid calling Obama a light-skinned negro

It’s Official– “Negro” Is Now NAACP Approved

Sarkazein said...

H.D-

Michael Jackson was very well accepted by the Congressional Democrats. Very light skinned, no Negro dialect, did it for the kids etc.

BikerBard said...

Who are The Racist???
Allow me to jump in here.

Really now. NO ONE on the right, or conservatives ever used the word "nigger" in a hate-filled speech?

Do you deny the legacies of Strom Thurman, George Wallace and our own Jesse Helms as racist??

Note to Faux:

"I am not very successful." -Faux
On this we can agree. Maybe if you learned from your "elitist liberal teachers" you would have done better in life. Bridle is right - you DO have a big chip on your shoulder and a real grudge against those who are educated, especially teachers.

How sad!

Sarkazein said...

Would someone explain the discussion to BB so he doesn't appear so ignorant. Nevermind.

BikerBard said...

Sark(astic):

I was responding to the THREAD -READ THE TITLE, WISEGUY) Do you have something significant in response to my post, or are you using your sarcasm to avoid me? What ARE you afraid of?

Sarkazein said...

"And finally, I think much of the bluster over Pres. Obama has racist overtones. People showing up at rallies with guns strapped to their legs - we get the message. You can't handle the idea of a black man in office."-BB

BB, if you had read more than the title, you would realize mind-sets like yours answers the question.

BikerBard said...

Sark(astic)

Still avoiding the obvious answer to my post?

So sorry I didn't post what YOU wanted to talk about. But Bill Clinton is a racist, and Biden is a racist, and lefties are racists, YOUR POST, but not you, or righties, or Strom Thurman. NOoooo. You are free from any such labels.

What a hypocrite and coward you are. All bluster, no response.

Maybe your girl Faux will answer for you. Or maybe he'll give you another Sunday reading you can fawn over.

oatz said...

The Hill reported:

The Senate’s embattled majority leader is moving ahead with an “African Americans for Harry Reid” event this week as he seeks to weather a political firestorm sparked by his racially insensitive remarks about President Barack Obama.

The timing of the launch of the “African Americans for Harry Reid” campaign group, which is scheduled for Thursday in Las Vegas, is coincidental. The luncheon had been scheduled for weeks.

Reid has apologized for remarks he made in 2008 that described Obama as “”light skinned” and “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” The comments were reported in a new book titled, “Game Changer.”

Despite the controversy playing out in the national media, Democratic political strategist Donna Brazile is scheduled to headline the group’s launch event in Nevada. She told The Hill in an e-mail Monday that the launch “is still on, and I’m still on track to go.”

oatz said...

Reid, liberal Democrat and Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate, has now admitted to a 2008 comment calling Obama "a light-skinned" African American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." Joe Biden said something similar during the presidential campaign when he opined that Barack Obama is "articulate, bright and clean."

Liberals wear their racial obsession as a badge of moral superiority. We are seeing the prideful dark side to their championing racial justice. It is noblesse oblige, the arrogant belief that minorities owe them so much -- their very lives and livelihoods -- that liberals are entitled to have their stereotypes and prejudices overlooked. The beneficence they have bestowed upon the seething masses of dark skinned people places liberal racial morality beyond question. Dark skin does not matter to Reid or his colleagues of course, but they are sufficiently enlightened to observe that it matters to the less sophisticated. Conservatives, "tea baggers" and those rural white folks who cling to their guns and Bibles are the ones we need to be concerned about, not the self-benighted liberal intelligentsia.

Perhaps not. Barbara "call me Senator" Boxer accused Harry Alford of the Black Chamber of Commerce of racial betrayal for not agreeing with the NAACP on Cap & Trade. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said that the opponents of the liberals' healthcare reform were "white Aryan support groups." Jesse Jackson said that Rep. Arthur Davis is not a black man because he voted against the healthcare bill. Maureen Down accused George Bush of racism because he appointed "white men" to the Supreme Court. Nancy Pelosi accused Americans who showed up at the healthcare town hall meetings of being Nazis and racists. Long before President Obama turned the Prof. Gates incident into a racial issue, he made the still too little known statement in his autobiography, "white folks greed runs a world in need." He no doubt learned that little rhyme from his racist mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Sarkazein said...

"What a hypocrite and coward you are. All bluster, no response."-BB

What's your goofy abbreviation you use all the time...ROFLMAO.

Honest Debate said...

Okay BikerBard, I'll do it.

First and most obvious, if we accept your premise, is that you are attempting to excuse bad behavior by citing other bad behavior. That is intellectually lazy and ineffective. If racism stinks (it does) then it stinks. So there's that, which is enough.

Secondly, your history sucks. George Wallace and Strom Thurmond (before 1964) were Democrats. Jesse Helms, and correct me if I'm wrong, was labeled a racist because of the ad he ran against Harvey Gantt. I have no problem with the ad. To me, Harvey Gantt's policies were racist. I loved it when Helms was stuck in an elevator with Carol Mosley Braun and threatened to whistle "Dixie" until she cried. They were close. His hearing for William Weld's ambassadorship to Mexico was a classic! Late in his political career he teamed up with the radical right-winger Bono to relieve third world debt.

Third, to Sark's point, the point of the post is that it seems to be okay for Democrats to be racist but not Republicans. My contention is that Democrats are the ones that look at race before character. Harry Reid didn't say that Obama would be a good President because of his intellect, experience or character. It was because he was a black man that didn't act black. It's alright for Democrats to say that blacks need extra help because of their color but it's racist to suggest opposing that notion. It's okay for Clinton to tell Ted Kennedy Obama should be serving coffee but if you don't like Obama's policies on merits then you're racist. Most crazy is the idea that you are more racist if you don't judge by the color of you skin than if you do.

Honest Debate said...

Oatz you wrote: "It’s Official– “Negro” Is Now NAACP Approved".

Do you suggest NAAN or NAANP? Or could they just follow the lead of the National Association for the Advancement of White People who changed it up with the simple KKK.

Sarkazein said...

""I'll continue to do my work for the African-American community ... I'm not going to dwell on this any more,"-Harry


If he was a Republican, do you think he would have that choice while still in office?

Honest Debate said...

Thanks Guy for the link. I learned a lot. Of particular interest is the gun control act of 1968 that was translated from the Nazi's gun laws and championed by Chris Dodd's daddy.

guy faulkes said...

Again, BB has to personally attack those that disagree with him. While I still own him, some of you are also acquiring possession. It is be fun to watch his antics, but occasionally it is annoying. It is sort of like having a skunk living in your tool shed.

Actually, I have done better than most of my elitist liberal teachers. They were the group that drew a paycheck and complained about their salaries and how they were not appreciated. The reason they were not appreciated was that they did nothing to appreciate. They could care less if their students learned anything. They could not motivate a starving dog to eat hamburger. One or two of them came from wealthy families. They lived well. If not for tenure, the rest may have ended up on welfare.

HD, it does little good to confuse BB with the facts on an issue. He will not be able to comprehend them. As far as I can remember, BB has never made a post that had a point to it that he could support.

There is no wonder he could not recognize the point of the thread was the double standard or hypocrisy of the left saying the right is racist. He is so used to hypocrisy, he can no longer recognize it is anything out of the ordinary. After all, he sees a hypocrite every time he looks in a mirror, a pool of water, or a window.

BikerBard said...

Sark:
I guess YOU missed he the point of my post. You are just as much a hypocrite as any, and so is your party. You refused to answer me on three occasions, because the answer is too painful. I'll give you the answer, coward. You all come from the political leanings of Strom Thurman, George Wallace ans our own Jesse Helms. Virginia Foxx is just learning. But the HYPOCRACY on the RIGHT is overwhelming.So is the racism.

However, you did manage to avoid the question, and you did get your girlfriend Faux to respond (it's a shame he was so angry with his teachers, he might have learned something.) You got Oatz to cut and paste, and you, ever the chicken-shit, remained unscated.

Nothing going on here except same ol', same ol'.

Note to Faux- if we ever do meet, you will own my right foot up your ass. That is all you will own. You belong here. You can only be a big man when you are surrounded by others. When alone, you, too, are a coward. And ignorant, besides.

Only together, you gain strengt. Put that in your Sunday readings.
Spew your venon Mon.-Sat. and be a holy man on Sunday. More hypocracy.

Cowards and tea party queens. LOL!

guy faulkes said...

BB, It is never wise to publicly threaten anyone with physical violence.

Gentlemen, I rest my case concerning BB. We now have a collective ownership of his soul.

Sarkazein said...

BB threatening a flit of violence on a distracter if they should ever meet... a nerve has been exposed to the cruel truth about his own obvious left-wing racism.

Honest Debate said...

Bridle, are you ready to complain about BikerBard yet? C'mon man garner a little credibility. I can't imagine any conservative commenter making violent threats. Weigh in or quit complaining about "divisive" and "partisan" ad hominem attacks.

Sarkazein said...

"Sark:
I guess YOU missed he the point of my post."-BB

I guess I must have missed he the point.

Sarkazein said...

Don't forget this "enlightened" Democrat's words and the things said about her by the other enlightened ones.

GERALDINE

Professor Rico said...

Tricycle Lard said:

"Still avoiding the obvious answer to my post?"

If there was ever a more telling post by one of the liberal troglydytes, this is it! You, of all people, is whining about someone not answering your post? How about answering to my past hundred posts to you? Tell you what fatty, I will cut you a deal. You are off the hook for the past posts, except for one.

Tell us how and why you think the "No Guns For Negros" video is not a liberal racist policy that affects blacks throughout the United States.

This ought to be interesting.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS About ready to short out another keyboard are you? LOL!!!

Johnny Rico said...

Tricycle Lard said:

"tea party queens"

What does this mean? If you are intending to reflect an insult in this language, then what is that insult. Is it that those who attend tea parties are gay? If so, then why is this an insult?

And who is racist here?

LOL!!! That was easy.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Katharine

guy faulkes said...

Off Topic. HD, could you start a thread on the implications of the Senate race in Massachusetts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJEEQHOnI2Q

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100112/ap_on_go_co/us_kennedy_successor

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/01/12/its_the_peoples_seat_and_its_up_for_grabs/

Scott Brown is not very conservative, but who would have thought there would have even been a chance for any Republican to come close in the People's Republic of Massachusetts? It is very telling that the race is as close as it is.

The health care bill is killing the liberals. Just wait until Cap and Trade and the EPA subterfuge becomes an issue brought to the public's attention.

I would appreciate it very much.

Sarkazein said...

Hey. I was just getting started on the BikerBard racist comments and the other Lefties using race as a political weapon against any opposition to any race other than caucasians.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, I did not mean to shut down this thread. I just would like a thread to facilitate conversation abut the Massachusetts race. It already bodes ill for our liberal friends, regardless of the outcome. A Republican doing well in Massachusetts is not a feather in the wind that shows the direction things are going. It is an anvil being blown about.

I am extremely interested in Bridles', POV's, or RV's take on BB's post. It seems to me BB has destroyed the credibility of the left on this issue.

I am not equating BB to Bridle, RV, or POV. I am just saying he makes their side look bad.

The manner in which the race issue is addressed is going to bite the liberals in the butt as bad as global warming and Cap & Trade. The double standard is so obvious it can no longer be denied.

I agree that there should not even be a place to declare race on any type of application or government form. If race is not an issue, why mention it?

oatz said...

A big question surrounds this book that quotes Sen. Harry Reid and that is why did the reporters sit on this information so long?

oatz said...

BikerBard I just picked up a new Orange flag for your Likkercycle at a yard sale. I want you to be safe this new year and not get hurt in traffic. Please post your mothers address so I can FedEx it over, she can knock on your command center door (aka your room).

Simon Jester said...

Just wanted everybody to know that Watauga Watch must not have paid their bill to the people that handle their comments. You can't post there anymore. Maybe that is why BikerBard came here.

Liberal POV said...

BB

I agree with your post , I to think much of the Republican Party is rooted in racism and even more of the current tea bag movement.

Notice this quote from Guy "A disproportionate number of blacks have fallen into the coddling entitlement programs that enslave them to poverty

"This in spite of the true facts most people on assistance are white Caucasian children"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/ai_12970819/

The Heritage Foundation wants you to believe this lie . They don't want the working poor voting with the desperately poor. Their objective is to get people to live poor and vote rich.

The image in Guy's mind of a large black woman driving a Cadillac and living an an easy life off taxpayer dollars of a few hundred dollars a month.

The truth is corporate America is the one getting taxpayer dollars in the billions while Guy's focused on the children getting food and housing money.

Could it be the many of those on welfare are due to Republican policy of opposing sex education, better public schools, grants for higher education, living wage laws, unions, Consumer rights and good banking usury laws?

I also agree with Bridle that this is not the fight Obama wants to spent his energy on. These racist will never change. so why waste the time.

BikerBard said...

Sark:
When all is lost, go for the typo.

Your adversion to a truthful reply is, at this point, very amusing. Long live Jesse??? Go with Faux's new topic. Your safer there.

Note to Oatz: You used that lame orange flag on numerous occasions. Get your writers to give you new material.

oatz said...

Yep you found us out there Liberal POV..A dem President freed the slaves(not Rep Abe Lincoln), Jim Crow laws anyone? Oh how about Grandmaster of the KKK Jim Byrd Dem-WV?

So more White people are on welfare probably true, but let me check the National Association for the Advancement of White People web site gee there is none, well lets check the population percentage of each race verses the number of people broken down demographically by race and those numbers tell a different story. Lets just cut to the chase Liberal POV bring facts to the table not conjecture. Fact ypu can NEVER spend your way out of a Recession, fact its been a year of Hope and Change. What has Changed oh yeah the $4 TRILLION dollar budget deficit( I know insert Bush Blame syndrome here) but Democrats control House, Senate, and White House own that one Liberal POV.

Tell me why reporters sat on the Harry Reid quotes for over a year?

oatz said...

BikerBard whine some more about the spelling and grammar police, Please BikerBard you would never do that yourself. Its hard to be called a POT is it not Kettle?

Liberal POV said...

Oatz

"Tell me why reporters sat on the Harry Reid quotes for over a year?"

Because his comments were true if poorly spoken?

You forget Nixon and Reagan recruiting Racist Democrats politicans( Helems, Strom Thurman, Trent Lott) and voters ( half my inlaws) to the Republican Party on race issues?

guy faulkes said...

POV, still no answers to the questions. You look very bad by not doing so.

BB and you have told so many lies you even believe them yourself. No one on the site has ever said that there were no people that need help or that these people should not be helped. We have proposed various agendas for getting this help to those that deserve it. These include personally doing it, doing it through churches and civil organizations, and strictly controlled help from the government that is locally administered. It does not include the entitlement programs used by the liberals to keep people in poverty and insure their voting blocks. You do not even understand that if you have your retirement funds in a mutual account, you own the corporations you so despise. The unions that you so admire have invested in stocks and mutual funds. If you are in a union, then you own the corporations. Of course, it is possible you are not in this situation as you plan to live off entitlement programs yourself.

"Could it be the many of those on welfare are due to Republican policy of opposing sex education, better public schools, grants for higher education, living wage laws, unions, Consumer rights and good banking usury laws?

No. Joining the welfare roles is most times caused by the new slavery imposed by liberals in order to keep themselves in power. Your comment is another example of your self delusions and lies. When people that are more than able to work have no incentive to work because they can get bread and circuses from those of us that produce, they have no incentive to work and produce themselves and will vote to keep the bread and circuses coming.

I do agree with you that the racist, elitiest left will always try to get away with using double standards and that this will never change.

Simon Jester, I wondered why I could not comment on Watauga Watch. I thought I had probably been banned for disagreeing with them as was Rico. I went back after your comment and found you were correct in that one can no longer post comments, due to problems with their provider.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

It doesn't matter which race has the most people on welfare if one race is a much higher percentage of the population. It matters what percentage of the race is on welfare (concerning your 20 year old census story) , and how many are generational and or long-term.
What should matter to you is why there are so many more people on welfare now than before and how it relates to the downfall of the society.. drug and alcohol abuse, single parent homes, homelessness, rising youth crime, etc.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

President Nixon was a member of the NAACP.

Laughing Rico said...

Oatz said:

"she can knock on your command center door (aka your room)."

LOL!!!! Ha ha, ha, ha. I can't quit laughing at this excellant post, Oatz. The best ever. Keep them coming!!!

Johnny Rico

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV and Tricycle Lard:

1. How about comment on "No Guns For Negros" and how the liberal establishment has, and is currently, trying to disarm inner city blacks.

2. How about commenting on why you guys call out of work Americans lazy and deserving of criminals (illegal aliens) taking their jobs?

LOL!!!

Your ole pal
Johnny Rico

Gary

BikerBard said...

Oatz:
You should have written "it's" instead of "its." Try your next copy and paste from a grammar book. Thanks for the laughs!

Note to Sark:
It didn't get past me that you slithered out of that one. Slimy, but a all-in-all a good job! However, in the future, don't ever insist that anyone respond to YOUR posts.

Note to Lib POV:
Agreed!

ROTFLMAO at you guys. Your smug sense of self importance cracks me up!

guy faulkes said...

Do you guys enjoy owning BB? Once again he uses personal attacks with no opinion on the topic of the thread or any documentation to back up that opinion.

With the comment section on Watauga Watch shut down, BB will probably continue to come here to be spanked.

BB, we are all waiting on your reply to the question about the liberal racism shown in the No Guns for Negroes video.

Owner Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV and Tricycle Lard:

1. How about comment on "No Guns For Negros" and how the liberal establishment has, and is currently, trying to disarm inner city blacks.

2. How about commenting on why you guys call out of work Americans lazy and deserving of criminals (illegal aliens) taking their jobs?

LOL!!!

Your ole pal
Johnny Rico

Gary

Sarkazein said...

BB- "Note to Sark:
It didn't get past me that you slithered out of that one. Slimy, but a all-in-all a good job! However, in the future, don't ever insist that anyone respond to YOUR posts."


When did I insist? Show me. I am not sure what you are commenting.

BikerBard said...

I am waiting for Sark's answer to the question of racist heritage from Thurman, Wallace, and our own Foxx and Helms.

And REEK-O has been peddling that trash for months, now. Throw it away already, buddy - it stinks!

Looks like we will all keep on waiting.

Simon Jester said...

Thurman and Wallace were Democrats at the time of their racial statements. Helmes was not racist. He just did not play the politically correct game. This is why he kept getting elected. The same can be said of Foxx.

I see BikerBard is still running from Rico. No answers to Rico's questions.

BikerBard said...

(Simple) Simon:

Are you speaking for Sark now? Can't any of you Tea Party Queens speak for herself or do you all hold hands together and choose a spokesmodel? LOL!

BikerBard said...

(Simple Simon)
And now for another edition of "Know Your History"

Strom Thurman became a Republican in 1964.

"Senator Thurmond decried the Supreme Court opinion in Alexander v. Holmes County Board of Education, which ordered the immediate desegregation of schools in the American South." -Wikipedia

This was in 1969, 5 years AFTER he became a Republican.

He was a Republican AND a racist.

BikerBard said...

(Simple) Simon

And now for yet another episode of, "Know Your History."

George Wallace: "Wallace became a born-again Christian in the late 1970s and apologized to black civil rights leaders for his earlier segregationist views."

Nothing like almost getting killed to change a man's convictions. "Fox-hole Christianity."

A born-again Christian is in the same league with Republicans.

Same thing. Kind of like Faux. Cold heart and hatred Monday through Saturday, church on Sunday.

Honest Debate said...

Good point on the Christians BikerBard. I agree there are no Democrat Christians.

Is that what you're saying?

guy faulkes said...

Sure there are Christian Democrats. By and large, they are the conservative faction of the Democrat party.

Many of these people,are what the left loves to call tea baggers. As the Democrats do not want them and they do not agree with the party line, I cannot see why they stay in the party. However, the yellow dog tradition is very strong in some families. They deem it disrespectful to not be of the same party as their parents and grandparents.

Johnny Rico Blaster said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV and Tricycle Lard:

I see you still dodge and run when the going gets tough. There is one constant that never seems to change when it comes to liberal lemming folk. That constant being the fact that they run whenever confronted by something they cannot answer. LOL!!! I love it. It is especially fun to do it to them in person to see them stammer and stall and generally look stupid. Oh, sorry, was rambling a bit. Here are the two questions that caused you two idiots to flee:

1. How about comment on "No Guns For Negros" and how the liberal establishment has, and is currently, trying to disarm inner city blacks.

2. How about commenting on why you guys call out of work Americans lazy and deserving of criminals (illegal aliens) taking their jobs?

LOL!!!

Your ole pal
Johnny Rico

Gary