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Monday, February 15, 2010

Global Meltdown

***UPDATE***
It just never ends.
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Since the last thread on global warming there have been a lot of new developments. We've already beat it to death so I didn't want to pile on. If you've lost track, here's a list of the various scandals to date. Now climate scientist Phil Jones is admitting there has been no warming since 1995.

It's over. Only flat-earthers still believe the hoax. What else is there to say? Leave it to Rush to put a new twist on the subject. He is welcoming the duped back to reality with open arms.

If Rush can do it we can too. Libs, you've been lied to. Through no fault of your own you have been fed crackpot science topped with a healthy dose of fear. You, as an American, are NOT destroying the earth. You can rest easy, this is very good news. Isn't it? There is no need to apologize for your contemptuousness at those who used real science and common sense, we forgive you. Welcome home.

22 comments:

guy faulkes said...

I am not as compassionate as HD and Rush. These pseudo intellectuals fell for the man made global warming scam. In doing so they have made and are making my life, the lives of my children, and the lives of my grandchildren more difficult and actually endangers them. If there were anyway to do so, they should be made to pay restitution.

Johnny Rico said...

The first hint that global warming is a fallacy is sea level rise. For the past 15 years the same scientists who are now blustering about man made global warming were yapping about melting artic glaciers causing the sea level to rise. Well, what happened? According to these quack scientists the polar ice caps are melting, so why isn't their a corresponding rise in sea level? Instead of trying to explain the error in their calculations, they simply ignore sea level rise as if it were never even on the board. What a bunch of idiots. They remind my of Shyster, craig Dud(ley), Liberal Socialist Sheep POV, and Cheerleader Tricyle Lard - all bluster and no substance.

LOL!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Honest Debate said...

Guy,

We don't need to forgive the dupers, just the duped. Algore and the IPCC don't get a pass. As to the libs around here, they ask for forgiveness by there absence on this thread. If they don't show up I'll never bring up climate change again...but neither can they.

RT Sender said...

Since Phil Jones has stepped down from the Climate Research Unit, he has admitted that there is no general consensus on global warming. He says that there has been no signifigant warming in 15 years and mentions that the planet may have been warmer around 1000 AD. It's funny how some of these scientists become more honest when they aren't getting all that grant money. I don't this will stop Al Gore who has increased his wealth by over 90 million dollars by fearmongering.

Honest Debate said...

RT,

Great point about the correlation between money and honesty.

The up side is Copenhagen was a complete bust as was Kyoto before that. Cap and trade is dead. The most damage was done to the auto industry who are forced to make small dangerous cars that nobody wants or, as we have learned, needs.

Now maybe we can have a honest discussion about pollution.

Honest Debate said...

Guy,

It looks like the libs aren't commenting. LiberalPOV has been on other threads so he's seen my charge. Bridle even showed back up...not on this thread. They are tacitly asking forgiveness. I am being as blatant and taunting as my character allows and still no rebuttal. What could they say?

guy faulkes said...

How about "We were wrong and are sorry that we supported destroying the way of life of the united States of America. How can we make amends?"?

oatz said...

Chirp Chirp Chirp the crickets are deafening the silence of Bridle, BikerBard and Liberal POV speaks volumes. Al Gore left public office worth less than 5 million thanks to "an inconvenient LIE" he his worth over 90 million. Which begs me to ask are they going to refund all the money they bilked?

Honest Debate said...

Oatz,

Algore may well be sued. Think of the money that has been spent by industry on this hoax. Think of the guilt imposed on average Americans. It's a crime. Lawsuits will ensue.

Sarkazein said...

H.D- When and if Al Gore's carbon what-ever trading company's stock values start plummeting, he better not sell even a single share of his own stock. He better ride the stock all the way in to the basement, then insulate his mansion walls with the paper certificates. Now, his shareholders, unless they are all like Bridle, will start suing for his remaining assets. Gore will be left standing at his mailbox every month waiting for his Senate pension check.
At least with ENRON, it was underling's greed mainly in the names of Fastow and Kopper under poor supervision that scammed America. In this case it is a former Senator and VP and the TOP guy... no one else to blame.

oatz said...

Hello Hello ...... Hello are there any Liberals out there with the Stones to refute anything on this thread? BikerBard has plenty of time to respond without ANY snow tires on the likker cycle he surely has time to craft a thoughtful fact BASED RESPONSE. Liberal POV? Hello......Hello......Is there any Liberal out there? Just nod if you can hear me.

Johnny Rico said...

Hat tip to Oatz. Good one sir!!!

Honest Debate said...

Hey, you guys wanna see something funny? Check out LiberalPOV's latest evidence. He put it on another thread, he can't show up here. Notice the source of the info?

Liberal POV said...

HD

Thanks for posting this over here.

You're putting down NASA goes to the heart of conservatives without vision.
This also goes to the heart of the conservative movement being anti knowledge.


Hubble http://hubblesite.org/

guy faulkes said...

It is indeed a shame that NASA has been discredited by its own actions.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I guess I need to make good on my promise to shred your argument.

The claim that there has been no statistically significant warming since 1995 and that the middle ages were warmer came from Phil Jones. It wasn't really a claim it was an admission that he lied. The link is in the original post with other links within. He matters because he was the big cheese at the CRU at East Anglia. That research was the basis for the IPCC's 2007 report. Also in the original post is a list of the 19 or so separate scandals involving that report, the data and the computer models. It's not a partisan matter. There was real fraud, it's all there. Heads rolled resignations have been tendered. That report has been discredited entirely.

The 2007 IPCC report has a wide reach. How many times have you brought up the 2500 scientist that agreed in man made global warming? Plenty. That was the IPCC's report you were referring to. Entities all over the world relied on this report...including NASA.

From your link: "Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal."
- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Also:

The following are the key sources of data and information contained on this page:

* IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Summary for Policymakers
* IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Technical Summary
* NOAA Paleoclimatology

BTW Lib, the Fourth assessment came in 2007. Yes, NASA relied on the 2007 IPCC report and the main author has now admitted it's bogus.

Liberal POV said...

HD

Got links to your comments?

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

Do you read? The links are in the original post as I said. The other link is from you.

You've been hoodwinked.

Liberal POV said...

HD

You really earn the flat earther award. You and other anti knowledge, visionless, silly blogers believe an extreme right wing blog over page after page of facts and data on the NASA site?

History has always had your type and they exsist in every culture, race and period of history.

You are the people without vision.

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guy faulkes said...

Rico, good call on the second post on this thread.

A new admission that global warming is a hoax was made when the study saying seas were rising was withdrawn.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/21/sea-level-geoscience-retract-siddall

Isn't it funny that those that fail to admit they were wrong are still calling those that did not fall for the hoax flat earthers? All I can hope is that Gore does not decide to spike their Kool Aid as did Jim Jones. There is probably not to much danger of this as he knows better than to kill the goose that lays his golden eggs.

Honest Debate said...

"Isn't it funny that those that fail to admit they were wrong are still calling those that did not fall for the hoax flat earthers?" -Guy Faulkes

Your position turned out to be the correct one in regards to LiberalPOV. He did the "flat-earther" thing on another thread and I dared him to bring his link over here. He did and I shredded it February 21, 2010 7:58 PM. Of course he asked for links. I informed him that they were in the original post. The specific topic was Phil Jones admitting no warming since 1995 and that it was warmer in other times. It was you (Guy) that posed the question to him originally.

His only response was to criticize "HotAir" as a right wing hatchet site. I still don't know what HotAir had to do with anything. I did have an update about hurricane data from the site but it just was reporting a story from the London Register. It had nothing to do with the subject at hand anyway, pathetic.

I uncharacteristically gave him the what for and removed forever his 6 or 7 post after that. I'll do it again if he shows back up. I've had it. I also deleted my profane laced post but not forever. I may need it again.