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Saturday, February 27, 2010

What Exactly Is Reconciliation?

For the policy wonks like me

Some of our commenters may be parliamentarians in their own right, I'm not. This thread is for those like me. I did some looking and was surprised by how hard it was to find a detailed explanation of the process and how it relates to health care reform. This does.

A few notes:

This was written before Scott Brown won "Ted Kennedy's seat" and in fact defore the Senators death.

The article refers to the HELP committee. HELP stands for Health, Education, Labor & Pensions. I had to look it up.

Obviously, the October 15 deadline referred to has passed.

The explanation is in two parts. The link for the second part is at the bottom of the first.

23 comments:

Honest Debate said...

I had to read several parts twice and refer back to other parts too. It's complicated but, to me, worth the effort to understand.

I came away realizing the perils better. It's not a done deal and in fact reconciliation may well put the final nail in the coffin. Keep your fingers crossed because it's clearly Obama's intention.

Reader said...

I found this explanation two days ago and like you HD, had to read and then read again. I still don't get how they can use it on health care. When I don't understand things, I try to research and rely on you guys for understanding. Thanks.

guy fauleks said...

Do not sell yourself short, Reader. Your posts reveal that you understnad things very well, even if we do not happen to agree.

Sarkazein said...

Reader- The rule was written by lawyers, it is not meant to be understood.

Honest Debate said...

You've got a talent for bottom-lining things Sark.

Reader said...

Thanks Sark, Guy, Oatz and HD. I appreciate you guys trying to explain politics to me. I hope I don't ask too many questions...your patience is wonderful.

Sarkazein said...

"They've had plenty of opportunity to make their voices heard," she said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday morning. "Bipartisanship is a two-way street. A bill can be bipartisan without bipartisan votes. Republicans have left their imprint."-Stretch Pelosi

This is a Totalitarian lying just like all Communists lie.
The biggest fight Republicans have put up in my life time, is bipartisanship.

Sarkazein said...

In a broadcast interview, Pelosi calls tea party voters the "astroturf" movement. She says many of those voters have good intentions but that the Republican Party has hijacked the movement for its gain.-Stretch Pelosi


She leads the most unpopular House of Representatives EVER. She has mean spirited ignorance, what could be worse?

guy faulkes said...

She leads the most unpopular House of Representatives EVER. She has mean spirited ignorance, what could be worse? - Sark

People could be falling for her lies instead of being discussed by them.

Has any one seen any polls since the big "bipartisan" summit? Did the circus help the left?

guy faulkes said...

Disgusted. Spell check is a dangerous tool.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

Having never had to type until the PC, as I did not take typing in school (pre-PC), was not a TW when I was in the military, worked as an aircraft mechanic after the military (pre-PC), had a secretary when I got into sales and started my own business (pre-PC), I have to look at the key-board when I type.
I'll bet, people not having to look at the key-board, and they can look at the screen or paper when they type, make way less way less mistakes as they see the word develop as they type it. I also find my proof reading seems to work better after the comment is posted.

Sarkazein said...

Oh Baby, you do this, and AF 1 is yours anytime I'm not using it.

Sarkazein said...

The Democrats are following Governor Bill Richardson's example.
He did disappear from national news, to the point I forgot about him. He gets protected from prosecution and Soros and Gore get cash just for endorsing Obama. Chicago politics on a national level.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, this kind of conduct is why we will not see an impartial investigation of ACORN until at least after the midterm elections. If one is ever held, I think Mr. Obama may be impeached.

I have said that to many times. I am starting to repeat myself as much as POV, but the subject keeps coming up. Sorry if it bores you all.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

On the ACORN video pimp thing, I didn't see any law broken. If the employees had gone on to officially help the pimp and the pimp was real or a police sting, then a law would be broken. To me it does not matter that there was no prosecution, we know the mind-set of the ACORN workers as proven by the videos. That should be enough to stop funding and to cut any government ties. It should also be enough to investigate all past and present ties between ACORN and OBAMA.

guy faulkes said...

Actually, I was thinking more of the voter fraud aspects of ACORN and possibly Obama.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-
Agreed, the voter fraud needs prosecution to the max.
Once there is a loss of faith in the elections, it's over.
If Obama was in Chicago politics and tied in with ACORN, he's guilty of voter fraud somewhere. HOPEfully some conservative journalist will uncover it and end the madness.

guy faulkes said...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704625004575089362731862750.html

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/03/obama-democrats-will-use-reconciliation-to-pass-senate-health-care-bill.html

The above indicates that the reconciliation process is inevitable. The following shows an interesting way of letting people know what Obamacare is costing them, particularly as it is being done in San Francisco.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/family/ct-trav-0228-health-charge-20100226,0,6658174.story

Reader said...

So are you guys saying to use reconciliation is legal in this case?

guy faulkes said...

No, but when has legality stopped the Obama administration?

Honest Debate said...

Guy you wrote: "The above indicates that the reconciliation process is inevitable."

Allow me to sharpen that a bit. It's inevitable (99%) that the process of reconciliation will be attempted.

As I understand it, the hurdles are high for it to work. To begin with, there may not be 50 votes. If used, it limits the field to kamikaze Senators only. There is also a host of procedural gimmicks. This thing is going to play out to the bitter end. Reconciliation is the last card in the Democrats deck. We'll rise up and stare them down...and keep kicking the can down the road every single time it's possible.

Honest Debate said...

Reader,

My head hurts when I try to wrap it around the legality of Senate rules. They write laws, I suppose they can make up any rule they want. There is only the Executive and Judicial branches to pull them back. It's a loophole nonetheless. In my view, it clearly circumvents the constitutional oath.

guy faulkes said...

Most people still want to see the bill scrapped and to start over.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/march_2010/55_say_congress_should_start_over_on_health_care