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Friday, March 12, 2010

ACORN : The Saga Continues

Thanks to Guy Faulkes.

A federal judge has ruled that defunding ACORN was unconstitutional. The decision will undoubtably be appealed. Here's a link with the proper perspective.

59 comments:

Liberal POV said...

Right Wing Mob

ACORN has come under attack for doing its job too well.

Folks like the Heritage Foundation have very successful demonized ACORN. The complete video has not been released by Fox or the maker of that video so we don't know the comments edited out or have a context of comments.

Acorn has thousands of employees and hundreds of offices.

The conservative right doesn't want the poor to have a voice or a vote.

Who has been CONVICTED of what and who was the highest level employee convicted?

This whole case is an injustice and an attack by the very wealthy on the very poorest of our country.

Right wing media, right wing blogs, hate radio and corporate media as well have all become a lynch mob by hyping and sensationalizing unethical journalism.

We have lots of half truths and painting a very large organization by the actions of very few low level employees and we're not sure of the truth of that.

Now lets here from the lynch mob? The Old South segregationist live on in the Heritage Foundation who feed blogs like this.

Sarkazein said...

POV- You mean the rich under-age foreign sex slave prostitutes the BMW driving ACORN workers wanted to get a bordello for?

Reader said...

Liberal judges at work again...who knew?

Liberal POV said...

Reader

Can you retreat from the lynch mob long enoughto answer the following questions?

Who has been CONVICTED of what and who was the highest level employee convicted?

Sarkazein said...

POV-

Google ACORN convictions, and keep in mind the number 30, pending investigations, believing your own eyes and ears, and why couldn't I look this up for myself.

Reader said...

If we show you things Lib, you still deny it...it's a no win situation with you.

Liberal POV said...

Right Wing Mob

These are the sites that came up with the google search.

How many women would you people have burned calling them witches in an earlier time?


http://wnymedia.net/wnymedia/smith/2009/09/the-truth-about-acorn/

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7707

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7740

http://www.theacru.org/acru/aclu_supports_acorn_voter_fraud/

http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/index.ssf/2010/01/acorn_voter_fraud_claims_are_p.html

Liberal POV said...

Reader

Just because you heard something on the hate media ( Fox, Rush or this blog doesn't make it true.

Find real convictions of upper management or real voter fraud and post it.

Lets see how many you can find?

How much time has right wing media devoted to this non story?

You people are witch hunters or wanting a return to the Joe McCarthy era.

Next you will restart the terrorist group the KKK.

Johnny Rico said...

A left wing, fringe organization who advocated for child prostitution is being defended by Liberal Socialist Sheep POV? Had this been the NRA under fire, the liberal news media would never have quit. Can you say HYPOCRITE? ACORN was exposed, and you are trying to save face for them aren't you? LOL!! Stings dont it!!! LOL!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

guy faulkes said...

In the long run, this may prove to be a blessing. It will focus attention on ACORN and its voter fraud activities. After the 2010 elections, hopefully there will be enough change in the legislative branch of the federal government to preform a fair and unbiased investigation of ACORN. At that point in time, it will be interesting to see exactly what ties Obama had to this group and whether these ties would approach impeachment and conviction levels, if charges are justified (as they appear to be at this time).

Liberal POV said...

Johnny, Guy and other Lynch Mob Groupies

Despite the McCarthy Era and witch hunt mentality we are still a nation of laws.

Who has been convicted, what were they convicted of and what position did they hold at ACORN?

This is a political witch hunt to keep the poor totally without political power.

This campaign to destroy ACORN the voice for the poor has been very effective with little real journalism.

The corporate media and politicians choose not to spend ratings and political capital on voters with no money. The cowards let the lies stand and even helped spread them.

What you think you know just ain't so.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, No matter how many times your questions are answered, you refuse to acknowledge it. You do not even have enough sense to challenge the answers. You just keep asking the same questions. How many years did you spend in the third grade and did you ever get out?

The public, both hoses of Congress and both parties agreed that ACORN was a fraudulent organization that deserved no tax payer funding. An activist liberal judge that wanted to legislate from the bench and ignore precedent disagreed. She will be overturned.

Get over it. Apparently you do not really like bipartisanship rulings.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

It's a set simple questions WHO has been CONVICTED of WHAT and WHO was the highest level employee convicted? WHEN?

WHO has paid for this attack on ACORN?

This whole attack is class bigotry on the poor.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/article_e3f0acc7-2675-5461-b472-8d5840cb9624.html

Bigotry is an easy sell to people like you.

Liberal POV said...

Conservative Lynch Mob

Here's some prospective on ACORN.

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a collection of community-based organizations in the United States that advocate for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues. ACORN has over 400,000 members and more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters[3] in over 100 cities across the U.S.,[4] as well as in Argentina, Canada, Mexico, and Peru.[5] ACORN was founded in 1970 by Wade Rathke and Gary Delgado.[6] Maude Hurd has been National President since 1990; Bertha Lewis was appointed CEO in 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now

ACORN's priorities have included: better housing and wages for the poor, more community development investment from banks and governments, better public schools, and other social justice issues. ACORN pursues these goals through demonstration, negotiation, lobbying for legislation, and voter participation.[7] ACORN comprises a number of legally distinct non-profit entities including a nationwide umbrella organization established as a 501(c)(4) that performs lobbying; local chapters established as 501(c)(3) nonpartisan charities; and the ACORN Housing Corporation. These entities support labor-oriented causes.

Liberal POV said...

Conservative Lynch Mob


While the video by James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles seemed to show three ACORN workers advising a prostitute how to hide ill-gotten gains, the unedited version was not as clear, according to a law enforcement source.

"They edited the tape to meet their agenda," said the source.

"On Sept. 15, 2009, my office began an investigation into possible criminality on the part of three ACORN employees," Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said in a one-paragraph statement issued Monday afternoon. "That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found."

Reader said...

This was easy to find. Let me know what else you need.

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

Liberal POV said...

Lynch Mob

This is from one of the few informed Texans.

www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=22664&tx_ttnews[backPid]=12340&cHash=1a34801e18

Liberal POV said...

Right Wing Mob

Prospective:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-27-2010/this-is-spiteful-tap

Liberal POV said...

Right Wing Mob

More perspective and truth.

What you think you know just ain't so.

http://www.acorn.org/fileadmin/HomePageNews/2009Dec/RamdomLengthsNews_Com.pdf

Liberal POV said...

Reader

No, what you found is the main source of the lies Rotten Acorn is funded by an anti minimum wage lobby.

http://www.propublica.org/article/rotten-acorn-ad-funded-by-anti-minimum-wage-group


How many convictions do you see in that list? Who were the people charged?

Notice all voter registraation cards are required to be turned in even if someone registerd a dog or micky mouse. The board of election office does this job and when someone shows up to vote at the polls voter address is matched.

How many of these actually voted?

Look close and THINK, read the other material, this is an attack on the poor's rights and voice.

Reader said...

http://stlouis.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel09/sl032409.htm

http://search.fbi.gov/search?q=acorn&ie=&site=my_collection&output=xml_no_dtd&client=my_collection&lr=&proxystylesheet=my_collection&oe=UTF-8

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-Justice-Dept-shut-down-ACORN-investigation-87360097.html

Liberal POV said...

Reader

The first Acorn on the list is a wall street Mutual Fund not the Voice of the poor.

The next is one very low level employee Carmen R. Davis, also known as Latisha Reed, 37, of Kansas City who "admitted that she caused three false voter registration applications – all in the same name, but with different addresses – to be filed with the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners."

What you think you know just ain't so.

Hundreds of millions are being spent to keep you misinformed and It's working.

This is cause for bring down an organization to give voice to the poor and all of the media hype?

Reader said...

Now he's denying the FBI. Lib, your brain will not process facts. I'd hate to be you little guy, I need to thank God every minute for giving me just a touch of smarts.

Liberal POV said...

Reader

I'm not denying this one and maybe a few others happened at a very low level of ACORN but the attacks by the right wing hate media is to paint the whole organization for the very few.

This would be like sterotyping the entire white race as serial killers for the actions of Jeffrey Dahmer.

How many women would you have burned calling them witches in an earlier time following such logic?

This is a witch hunt paid for by the right wing mob.


http://wnymedia.net/wnymedia/smith/2009/09/the-truth-about-acorn/

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7707

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7740

http://www.theacru.org/acru/aclu_supports_acorn_voter_fraud/

http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/index.ssf/2010/01/acorn_voter_fraud_claims_are_p.html


We now have Glen Beck openly opposing social justice.

guy faulkes said...

Libralproverbs18:2 seems to actually believe that an organizational could be guilty of identical voter fraud offenses in a multitude of states without directions from the centralized command structure. What an idiot.

After the 2010 elections there will be a lot of these people going to jail. Maybe even Obama.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV:

ACORN was exposed, and you are trying to save face for them aren't you? I guess this means you agree with child pornography and other crimes against children. This does not surprise me coming from a socialist who spit on returning Vietnam Vetrans and who also believe Americans deserve to lose their jobs to illegal aliens.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Sarafin
PS Stings don't it?

guy faulkes said...

ACORN thrown out of Ohio

http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/03/12/acorn-cracked-run-out-of-state-under-rico-act-in-ohio/

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Did you ever find an answer to these questions WHO has been CONVICTED of WHAT and WHO was the highest level employee convicted? WHEN?

WHO has paid for this attack on ACORN??

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

"Updated: Mar 13, 2010 11:03 AM


By JoAnne Viviano - Associated Press Writer

Posted by Lisa Strawbridge - email

COLUMBUS, OH (AP) - The community organizing group ACORN is not prohibited from returning to Ohio under a settlement reached in a lawsuit that claimed it used fraudulent voter registration practices.

Johnny "Stinger" Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV:

Is this supposed to be an answer to my post? LOL!! You can't answer!!! This is hilarious as are you!!! You are defending an organization that would allow for the sexual exploitation of CHILDREN (read it, CHILDREN, let me say it again, CHILDREN), not to mention plain ole prostitution. And they were doing this with my hard earned taxpayer dollars (not yours because you suck off the government tit). Again, it is not surprising that you think this way. After all you admit to spitting on returning Vietnam Vets as well as saying that local workers in Watauga County deserve to have their jobs taken by illegal aliens as they are lazy.

Funny you calling someone else lazy while sucking off the govt. teat. LOL! Can you say HYPOCRITE!!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS Stings don't it?

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, you have been provided many links to convicted ACORN employees. You choose to dismiss them as rouge workers....in state after state after state after state....

Sorry, that subterfuge does not pass muster.

ACORN is going to bring down Obama with an impeachable connection, in my opinion.

No one has paid for the investigation of ACORN that needs to be done by a unbiased Congress that does not owe their seats to ACORN through it's fraudulent voter registration practices.. It has not been done yet. When it is, the taxpayers will pay.

Liberal POV said...

Johnny and Guy

Just because you heard something on the hate media ( Fox, Rush or this blog doesn't make it true.

Find REAL convictions of upper management or cases of REAL voter fraud and post it. Reader has found one low level person convicted of fraudlently registering one person three times with three addresss out of millions of voters registered. Not much for all the fuss.

guy faulkes said...

ACORN is, of course ,beginning protected by the Obama administration. This is so blatant that it makes the case of a possible Obama impeachment due to his connection with ACORN very creditable. Even Congress believes ACORN is corrupt.

Johnny "Stinger" Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"Find REAL convictions of upper management or cases of REAL voter fraud and post it."

You mean like the Black Panther Muslims were "convicted" of assault and voter intimidation during last years election when they were threatening voters with sticks? You mean like that?

Been spittin on any Vietnam Vetrans lately? Been advocating for sexual exploitation of children, AGAIN, lately. You are one sick Pedofile, you know it?

That has to really Sting, don't it?

LOL

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Billy

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

Do you have some more lies?

guy faulkes said...

In order to tell more lies, Rico has to tell one to start with first. She has not. Focus, Liberalproverbs18:2, focus.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Find REAL convictions of upper management or cases of REAL voter fraud and post it."

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, you have been given countless links. You disregard all of them because, by your criteria, none of these people were upper management. You dodge the issue of the identical voter fraud issues in state after state. Anyone that supports terrorists and pedophiles such as you do cannot be reasoned with.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Johnny

Do you have some more lies?"

You are saying the Black Panther Muslims who intimidated voters with weapons outside a voting center in Philly is a lie?

Wow, you aren't stupid anymore like I thought, you are just plain silly!!!!

That stings don't it?

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS This is getting hard for you isn't it? Your parents must be disappointed!! LOL!!!!

Liberal POV said...

Johnny Foxx

I have no idea what you are referring to? Was that posted on a KKK site or a Neo Nazi site?

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, the story of the Black Panther voter discrimination was reported on Fox News firs. It was eventually picked up by CNN, CBS, ABC, and even NBC. Several newspapers reported on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

Of course the Obama administration moved to protect these thugs, as it has with ACORN.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203550604574361071968458430.html

I would suspect you have seen this before, but you probably cannot remember it because of your Kool Aid induced daze.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

What does this hve to do with ACORN?

Do you believe that cost the Republicans the election?

guy faulkes said...

They use similar tactics. They were both protected from prosecution by the Obama administration. Do you realy think they are legitimate, honorable institutions or thugs, criminals, and supporters of pedophiles? How deep are you under the influence of thee Kool Aid?

Some races were probably decided by things such as this and fraudulent voter registration. Al Franken's victory is an example.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Johnny

Do you have some more lies?"

I answered your question by showing you (yet again) that what I say is not a lie. As usual, you don't have an answer due to being a libertard and come back with claiming to not know what is going on. Of course you didn't hear of the Black Panther Muslims intimidating voters in Philly - you liberals utilize selective memory and reasoning. If it doesn't fit your bigoted agenda, you ignore it as if it never happened.

Again, you are saying the Black Panther Muslims who intimidated voters with weapons outside a voting center in Philly is a lie?

Balls in your court, idiot.

Johnny Rico

PS The bashing I gave you smarts don't it?

LOL

Liberal POV said...

Johnny Foxx

The police were called the men moved on end of story.
No big deal.

Sarkazein said...

POV's warped version of the end of the story.

Sarkazein said...

POV- Was that all you were told? You wrote:"The police were called the men moved on end of story."


Ignorance is bliss.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Was anyone actually touched by these men?

Was any one verbally assaulted by these men?

Had the man had a cane would you feel better?

Is a night stick illegal?

What do you think shpuld happen?

What law was broken?

guy faulkes said...

Very informative link, Sark. Thank you.

guy faulkes said...

What law was broken? Get off your lazy butt and go to the link.

Was anyone actually touched by these men? I do not know. The investigation was not completed.

Was any one verbally assaulted by these men? I do not know. The investigation was not completed.

Had the man had a cane would you feel better? Yes. A cane is not a weapon of intimidation.

Is a night stick illegal? Possibly. They are in some jurisdictions. Again, the matter was dropped by the Obama administration in order to protect the organization to which the two men belonged and keep attention off of the voter intimidation issue.

What do you think shpuld happen? In a perfect world, if the man with the weapon made what a reasonable man would have considered a threat of deadly force, the reasonable man SHOULD have shot him. In any case the man wielding the night stick should have been arrested, tied, convicted, and served jail time. If this had happened in North Carolina, he would have been charged with going armed to the terror of the public in addition to intimidating voters.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

" In a perfect world, if the man with the weapon made what a reasonable man would have considered a threat of deadly force, the reasonable man SHOULD have shot him. In any case the man wielding the night stick should have been arrested, tied, convicted, and served jail time. If this had happened in North Carolina, he would have been charged with going armed to the terror of the public in addition to intimidating voters."


Had this man have a right to carry permit and had a gun instead of a night stick would your argument be different?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Should a member of the black panther party with no history of crime be allowed to have a right to carry permit?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"In any case the man wielding the night stick should have been arrested, tied, convicted, and served jail time."

Convicted of what?

guy faulkes said...

Had this man have a right to carry permit and had a gun instead of a night stick would your argument be different? If he had a concealed carry permit,then the gun would have been concealed (assuming he was obeying the law). It would not have been an intimidating factor as for which he obviously used his night stick.

Should a member of the black panther party with no history of crime be allowed to have a right to carry permit? Certainly, as should a member of the white supremacist movement. There is no requirement that one has to like everyone else in order to exercise his rights. Would you agree?

Convicted of what? Read the link Sark provided. Oh Hell, you are to much of a lazy ass to do it. Federal voter intimidation laws, you idiot.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Convicted of what? Read the link Sark provided. Oh Hell, you are to much of a lazy ass to do it. Federal voter intimidation laws, you idiot."

I watched the video and saw no intimidation.

I assumed the man was there waiting on his mother the come out of this public buliding. Was this building a medical clinic or a school?

Did you see or hear any threats?

What you think you know just ain't so!

guy faulkes said...

Did you see or hear any threats? Certainly I did. A man aggressively blocking a public entrance to a building while brandishing a night stick is the perfect definition of a threat.

How about answering the questions about your education and your support of pedophiles.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Here's another link to show what you think you know just ain't so.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-13209538.html

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, I have decided on a new policy. There is no reason to go to any of your links until you answer the question about your education. Apparently you have something to hide so nothing you post can be relevant.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, you answered my question in the first thread so I read your post. See how much better it is when you do not run from questions?

The charges were dismissed and never brought to trial. As I said before, protectionist policies will cease if we have a turnover in the legislature after 2010. Who knows what new charges or impeachments and convictions will be levied against who knows which people after an unbiased investigation.