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Wednesday, March 31, 2010

The Face Of The Tea Party

Pam Stout is the president of a Tea Party Organization in Idaho. She is the opposite of what the tea partiers are portrayed as in the media but she represents everything they stand for. No "Astro-Turf" here. It's the most organic grass roots movement ever. I'm not a fan of Letterman but I have to give him credit for having her and treating her with respect. How could you not?

44 comments:

Liberal POV said...

HD

This is the first reasonable face for the Tea Party I've seen. While I disagree with her she seem reasonable something I have not seen.

Compare this lady to that of Beck, Rush, Cheney, Rove or any of the current Republicans.

The extremist within the tea party movement will push her aside.

Honest Debate said...

I'm glad to hear that Lib. However, I don't see much difference in her message and the message of those you mention. The biggest difference I see is she hasn't been maligned because she is unknown. Can you please specify the differences you see? What has Beck, Rush, Cheney or Rove said that contradicts anything she says? Specifically.

Sarkazein said...

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere. -Thomas Jefferson

guy faulkes said...

She probably is a Republican.

Liberal POV said...

HD

Beck is a fear evangelist selling fear for profit this woman is not profiting from here believes.
While I disagree with the woman's political views I see her as reasonable and a moral person.
Rush also is profiting from fear and hate big time. I see Rush with serious mental issues who will one day take his own life. Rush will bully people of his own party just to boost his own ego. None of this applies to the woman in the video she seems quit sane.

Cheney: Dick Cheney will be immortalized as the most villainous face of the ugly American politician, the war profiteer, the man who shamed America with a policy for torture. When a writer or movie director wants to convey meanness, abuse of power, villains, a cold hearted character or the worst of todays Republican party Dick Cheney's face will immediately do so. Dick Cheney will be the metaphor for moral bankruptcy, cold hearted, bitter old American politicians. The woman in the video does not come across as morally bankrupt.
Rove the man who would lead us to war for political power, the weasel, another morally bankrupt but smart political player. Much of our problems as a nation could be blame one this one individual.

The reason you and I have trouble communicating is the emotional gap Rove created between us. Rove has spent decades exploiting controversial issues of gays, guns and God for political purposes.

Remember your comment a few post back suggesting Democrats not being real Americans that was classic Karl Rove. That's what he has done.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I already knew of your irrational unfounded hate. There is no need to elaborate. My question is an opportunity for you to show that you know what your talking about. I'm sure you don't. Convince me otherwise.

What has Beck, Rush, Cheney or Rove said that contradicts anything she says? Specifically.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"What has Beck, Rush, Cheney or Rove said that contradicts anything she says? Specifically."


Profit

While the lady is wrong I think she sincerely believes it.

The others Beck, Rush, Cheney and Rove all stand to gain if current events can be exploited for the most anger, most sensationalism,and cause people that live poor to vote rich.

Find the most extreme footage for the Fox News or to send across the internet.

Your side is currently getting a dose of that. You are now all guilty by association with the extremist militias wanting to kill policeman. Paint all with one brush all on the right are racist, support human rights abuse, torture, endless wars, pollution, Insurance greed, homophobic, greedy. You here want to paint all liberals as baby killers, grannie killers, socialist, socialist as communist, Liberals want to ban all guns, liberals are anti free market.

Is this bullshit making a better country or finding answers to our citizens problems?

This is what Fox media and Karl Rove, Rush, Beck and Cheney have done for profit and power.

guy faulkes said...

Exactly how are we guilty by association with extremist militias that want to kill policemen? What group has been convicted of this? What proof do you have that this is a legitimate concern?

So, you are saying Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc. should not be compensated for their work as are the left wing biased commentators on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CBS and NBC. You indicate the conservatives spread fear in your opinion. We prove the left wing commentators spread lies and bias. Exactly what is your logic?

When are you going to answer the questions about gun control? Are you not tired of running? You keep bringing up the issue, but will not clarify your position or debate it.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I'm talking about the message and you are talking about the messenger. You understand neither.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"I'm talking about the message and you are talking about the messenger. "

No, I'm talking about the message of extremism and sensationalism not statesmanship of understanding opposing opinions.

These people making fortunes dividing us.

BikerBard said...

Hey Tea Baggers: (wink, wink)
The Tea Party is a leaderless hodgepodge of whiners being manipulated by the Rethuglicans. You girls should fit right in.

guy faulkes said...

BB, congratulations on working up the courage to use your same blog name. However, your post is still just a personal attack that means nothing.

It is telling that you still persist in calling males girls.

Liberalproverbs18:2, you have just admitted your intolerance of anyone with a different idea than your own. Both you and BB attack the messenger because neither of you is capable of debating the message.

You are still unable to answer any questions, I see. Ah Do Run Run, Ah Do Run Run.

Sarkazein said...

Gut Faulkes-

To say nothing of the "(wink, wink)"

Sarkazein said...

Your new street name... should read Guy above comment.

Wolf's Head said...

"It is telling that you still persist in calling males girls." Guy

You have to remember that "from his point of view" they all look the same.

Liberal POV said...

Guy and the other right wing Zombies

"Liberalproverbs18:2, you have just admitted your intolerance of anyone with a different idea than your own."


The message from right wing media is designed to get those that live poor to vote rich.

That message is designed to sensationalize, exaggerate, over simplify and create fear which creates hate.

I notice you have no problem lying when you use terms like " I know you are a traitor, and a supporter of terrorists and pedophiles,".
This shows you to be morally bankrupt and a very small dishonest person. You're unable to engage in a debate with an opposing opinion without resorting to such dishonesty. Do you engage in such lies because of you're inadequacy as a human being?

You make the perfect right wing zombie for the evangelist of fear and hate.

Honest Debate said...

"That message is designed to sensationalize, exaggerate, over simplify and create fear which creates hate." -LiberalPOV

That's the biggest bunch of unsubstantiated BS evah! It shows utter ignorance. I've practically begged for specificity but there is none.

Sarkazein said...

"The message from right wing media is designed to get those that live poor to vote rich."-POV

Another "original" thought?
POV and other Leftists prefer you vote poor, live poor,
stay poor, act poor, HOPE for poor, Change from rich to poor, THINK poor.

Sarkazein said...

"While watching ‘Bill Moyers Journal’ on channel Thirteen this evening, I was struck by John Grisham’s observation that “Republicans Live Poor and Vote Rich” in the USA."-Someone other than POV.

Sarkazein said...

MAKEUP!!!!!

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18;2, You have proven yourself to be a traitor, a supporter of terrorists, and a supporter of pedophiles by your own postings. If you do not like being called those things, prove you have changed. Calling attention to what someone posts is not dishonest. It is truthful and revealing.

When are you going to TRUTHFULLY answer the questions on the gun issue?

Sarkazein said...

QUICK BARRY, TO THE TAXMOBILE!!!

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"When are you going to TRUTHFULLY answer the questions on the gun issue?"

What was the question and why should I do I care?

Liberal POV said...

HD


Is this what you want?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFWOLSIhYMg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/15/AR2010031500923.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cord-jefferson/becks-fearmongering-mimic_b_512150.html

Liberal POV said...

Guy

The conservative movement is like you intolorant and small world thinkers.

Case in point:

I a liberal oppose torture and human rights abuse in the name of keeping us ( the USA safe )

You being small minded call that suporting not the ideas of a free and civilized society but being a traitor, a supporter of terrorists.

You only believe in freedom when it cost you nothing.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

"Is this what you want?"

No not really, I asked: "What has Beck, Rush, Cheney or Rove said that contradicts anything she says? Specifically" twice.

Your links, best I can tell, do not address anything Ms. Stout said, just vintage Beck doing the Lord's work. Gotta love Beck!

The Young Turks guy is a joke. He actually believes the caller was "scared to death". Or he could be just saying it to rile you up? You know, make you afraid of Beck (and Rush,Cheney,Rove). Telling you what to think of them so you don't find out for yourself. Fear-mongering. The article reminds me what a good patriot Beck is.

Liberal POV said...

HD

March to the cliff if that's what you want.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18;2, YOU ARE INDEED AN IDIOT. Give me some justification in saying I only believe in freedom when it costs me nothing. As a matte of fact, I believe that freedom has to be protected with our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor and have been consistent in saying so.. This is certainly unlike you, who has said from your own mouth that we should capitulate to terrorists and that you support organizations that have been video taped conspiring to aid in the establishment of houses of prostitution to serve pedophiles.

guy faulkes said...

"When are you going to TRUTHFULLY answer the questions on the gun issue?"

What was the question and why should I do I care?

liberalproverbs18:2

You should care because you need to defend your statement that some guns used for hunting are permissibly while those used for defense (that function in precisely the same manner) are not.


How does a gun you do not like function differently from one you say is acceptable? How are you going to ban one and not the other? Why do you consider collecting guns any different than collecting stamps? What makes you remotely think you have the right to decide how others use their constitutional rights? I know you are a traitor, and a supporter of terrorists and pedophiles, but when did you get elected God in your own mind? How much money do you spend on things and why do you do it? What makes that anyone's business but yours? What makes you so cowardly that you do not believe in your responsibility to provide for the safety of yourself and your family? Where int he Bill of Rights or the papers of the founders does it indicated that the second amendment is about hunting? What is your opinion of Jim Crow Laws and the video No Guns For Negroes by the Jews For The Preservation of Firearms? Do you admit gun control laws are racist, sexist,and elitist? What is your justification for your position when the standard military arm is in .223 caliber and is so weak that int is unlawful to hunt with it on public lands in North Carolina. A big game hunting gun used on public lands must be at least a .243 caliber. In other words, why was your statement not o be considered drivel from someone that does not know what he is talking about as are most of your statements.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

You sound like a man crazy about guns, to bad you didn't serve in the military and get some of that out of your system.

I'm just happy I don't live my life in such fear.

You want to send young people to war but you don't want to pay the tax for that war.

You're afraid of an American policy of no torture as you might get hurt.

The fear media has you afraid of your shadow, man up boy stop being so afraid.

You don't need an assault weapon to be a real man, but it must help you feel better about yourself.

Sarkazein said...

POV- You are a clueless ass. I guaranty I spent more years in the regular military than you, and I am a gun enthusiast. Having served in the military has NOTHING to do with being a gun enthusiast. The fact is, you can't answer the gun questions (a huge political topic) because a logical/truthful answer does not coincide with your Leftist mind-set.

Sarkazein said...

I will add to my point. Supposedly, his serving weekend duty in the State National Guard, gave him (POV) SO much gun time on the firing range or in battle (POV's term for fearing his unit was going to be activated to Vietnam), you are just worn out on guns when you finish your duty. Good grief, and he is allowed to vote.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

I'm sure Guy appreciates the rescue.

Sarkazein said...

POV-It is you needing rescue, from yourself. Your idiot in chief dropped in the polls again today, and you cannot put together an original or a rational thought to defend, you can only attack his detractors.
Johnny Rico had it right, you have a getting your political butt kicked on a regular basis fetish.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, I have been asked by firearms instructors to help train both police officers and R.O.T.C. students. I have provided training to many regular army officers and guard and reserve officers. These are truly people that wished to serve, not avoid combat as you seem to indicate you did.

It is telling that you like to use my physical disabilities that kept me from serving as fodder for your argument. What else can one expect from a liberal's compassion and sense of justice?

What does serving in the military have to do with gun rights? The second amendment reconfirms a civil right. Add that to your list of questions.

Now, answer them or keep running. I can keep asking as long as you keep posting.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

You've established yourself as the weapons expert, you tell us how a law could be written to keep military assault weapons designed to rapidly kill fellow human being out of the general public?

Tell us what weapons limitations you would put in your law?

We both agree a weapon securely stored inside the home and hunting rifles and shotguns should be an American freedom if you don't have a criminal history, restraining orders or mental issues.

Machine guns, Land Mines, Hand grenades, Sniper weapons, tanks, what limitation would set for the general public?

Sarkazein said...

POV wrote- "We both agree a weapon securely stored inside the home and hunting rifles and shotguns should be an American freedom..."

Who is this WE you speak of?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"Who is this WE you speak of?"

You don't think American should have the right to have a hand gun, shotgun or hunting rifle safely stored in their home?

Sarkazein said...

There is no "should" to it, and whether or not I want it "secured" is my choice. Secured to liberals means locked up and unusable in a split second. I keep one placed accessibly on my hip, and wander freely around Texas and most other states I visit.
YOU, however, are free to keep your guns "stored securely in your home".

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"There is no "should" to it, and whether or not I want it "secured" is my choice."

As long as you will be responsible for all law suits resulting from any accidents from your gun fetish.

Your gun fetish should not result in my home owners insurance being higher.

How often have you needed to use your gun?

By the way you have a great show coming to Galveston about the great Ann Richardson.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125224542

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, I will be happy to answer your questions when you answer mine. Please do so. Excuse me, I have to go back to the previous thread to ask these questions there in order to stimulate you to abandon your gutless running.

Sark, it does not matter if you ever had to use your gun. I have, but thankfully have never had to use my life insurance policy. A gun is an insurance policy.

Liberalproverbs18:2's home insurance should be higher because he will not defend it, himself, or his family. He expects the rest of us to cover his losses through our insurance and the public health care he so loves.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

" He expects the rest of us to cover his losses through our insurance and the public health care he so loves."

I expect to have a good honest police force.

That seems to have worked for you and Sark so far.

Sarkazein said...

A FACT

guy faulkes said...

AS has being armed. Now answer the questions, Liberalproverbs18:2.