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Friday, March 12, 2010

HOW PELOSI GETS HER SHEEP TO FOLLOW HER

105 comments:

guy faulkes said...

It may just be me, but I find the Demon Sheep to be more attractive than Ms. Pelosi's actual appearance. This is not just a statement about Pelosi. When one has a face lift that stretches the skin on the face so tight it causes one's toes to curl, it is not attractive, no matter who you are.

Sarkazein said...

I don't know if make-up is made from our natural resources, but if it is, between Michele Obama and Nancy Pelosi, there won't be enough left for our grandchildren.

Blogger said...

I am very serious about this post. This Democrat congress is hell bent to go off the cliff together, thus begging for a plausible explanation. The only similar incident I find in historic literature is the time Jesus allowed a whole Legion of demons to enter pigs who then plunged in mass over the cliff and into the sea. (Mark 5:13)

If not some form of evil possession, how else do you explain otherwise sensible men and women turning on their own voters. In the middle of the second greatest economic downturn in our history, they jam another entitlement down the peoples’ throat–never mind the other entitlements, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Schip program, and Veterans’ benefits can’t be paid for.

They are maddening their own constituents. Much like the rapist who informs the victim she will have enjoyed herself once the deed is done, they tell us we will love the bill when we finally get to see it.

They affront intelligence saying the program will pay for itself and won’t raise taxes. No American in his or her right mind believes that, unless they just want to. The Dems say the CBO agrees with them. We all know the CBO report admits they are using unsupportable assumptions. We also know that numbers are fungible: “If you put garbage in, you get garbage out.” Congress forgets that for the first time in history their constituents are working from sources of information that Congress members do not have time to look up.

The voters are screaming at their representatives over the debt piling up to China and others who can hurt us. They are bankrupting our future while weakening our international position and they don’t even seem to care.

Perhaps worst of all, they have debased our institutions, eroding the trust of the people. They are using bribery, payoffs, and intimidation right out where people can see it and they have no shame. They are also proposing all types of sleazy, even illegal parliamentary maneuvers, never seen on this scale. Today, they have one of the, if not the, lowest approval rating of any congress in history.

When people do insane things and don’t respond appropriately, if that does not sound like a spell has been cast over their minds, then what other explanation makes sense?

Sarkazein said...

Blogger-

Often in history, civilizations have done things that only an evil possession could explain. But liberalism has always proclaimed superior knowledge. Liberals have always claimed they know what is good for everyone else. So it could just be liberalism run amuck and many in Congress are suffering from a bad case of collective behavior.
We didn't need these reforms two years ago as listed in peoples top concerns, but now it's everything yet nothing has really changed to cause it.
Pelosi is obviously possessed by something scary.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"jam another entitlement down the peoples’ throat–never mind the other entitlements,"

Blogger, this is the line straight from the propaganda mill of right wing think tanks parroted on hate radio, right wing scare blogs and every Fox News and propaganda show.

"The only similar incident I find in historic literature is the time Jesus allowed a whole Legion of demons to enter pigs who then plunged in mass over the cliff and into the sea. (Mark 5:13)"

Never heard that one, sounds more like voo doo than Christianity.

Blogger, the same things were said about Medicare and Social Security that assist YOU every month.

So you want to continue to let the working poor suffer and many die for lack of health care because you have yours?

Honest Debate said...

Blogger,

Obama said it himself in the campaign, he wants to fundamentally change America. He wants a European style socialism...at any cost. Sycophantic Democrats have too much invested in him to let go. Others think like he does. He sees the world the way Rev. Wright does. I hope he fails.

This sheep is from an ad by Carly Fiorina. We had a thread on her a while back. She's running against Barbara Boxer but this ad is targeted at Republican Tom Campbell in the primary. Here's the whole thing.

Liberal POV said...

HD

Please explain your fear of European style socialism?

What's the up side and the down side?

What's wrong with more vacation time for American workers and a living wage for American workers?

Is there less crime in Europe than in the US? Are the Europeans better educated? Do Europeans live longer healther lives?
Is drug use less in Europe? Do these countries have fewer citizens behind bars? Are Europeans freeer than Americans ( are the Europeans free to change jobs without fear of losing health care for their families or free to start a business)?
Are Europeans happier?
Does Europe have better journalist?

Sarkazein said...

Is there a defined mental disorder describing a person who makes statements in the form of questions to the point even his non question statements have question marks?


POV wrote-"Please explain your fear of European style socialism?"

Sarkazein said...

POV asks-"What's the up side and the down side?" (of socialism)

The down side is there is going to be a revolution, and you lose... big time. Move to Europe Pinco, and leave my contract (the US Constitution) alone. Be an individual, instead of a lazy gutless bleeding heart looter.

Sarkazein said...

POV- Your goofy "lynch mob" and "mob" thing is exactly what you are. A looter wanting the government to do the looting for you. So you are even worst than a looter, you are a lazy looter.
You and your socialist wan-a-be mob will cause exactly the opposite of what you want to happen. Just like Michael Moore has an exact opposite effect with every one of his moronic movies, the exact opposite will happen while you are trying to loot your more successful fellow citizens.
The Tea Party movement is exact evidence of the opposite happening along with the recent elections. FACT.
If Pelosi, the head of your looter gang (mob), is successful in passing a bill most Americans do not want, the Left will pay in heavy loss never seen before in Amercan politics.

Wolf's Head said...

Blogger, very well said.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

What is an informed answer to the following questions?


What's wrong with more vacation time for American workers and a living wage for American workers?

Is there less crime in Europe than in the US? Are the Europeans better educated? Do Europeans live longer healther lives?
Is drug use less in Europe? Do these countries have fewer citizens behind bars? Are Europeans freeer than Americans ( are the Europeans free to change jobs without fear of losing health care for their families or free to start a business)?
Are Europeans happier?
Does Europe have better journalist?

Liberal POV said...

Wolf

Do you believe in Legion of demons to entering pigs or sheep?

Sarkazein said...

POV- I would suggest you quit eating raw pork, because you are definitely possessed.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

You are the one wanting to spend all of taxpayer money on unnecessary wars and supported the tax cut on the rich that causing the deficits before destroying the economy.

Now can you answer the questions above?

RT Sender said...

As Speaker of the House, Pelosi can influence the budgets of individual congressmen. Disagree with her and a congresman's travel budget may get curbed or the allowance for staff payrolls, not to mention getting an earmark in a bill. As President, Obama has a lot of influence with the DNC as to who gets re-election funding. Together, the White House and the speaker can do a lot of arm twisting. We all know about the bribes. Too many politicians believe that if the government has enough power, then they can fix all social ills. Fascism, communism, socialism, statism or collectivism all have this in common. I pray that most Americans are aware of the dangers and show it at the ballot box.

Wolf's Head said...

LPOV, you obviously know NOTHING about conditions in Europe. Your ignorance is not only astounding, but is unfortunately pervasive in the rank and file lefty drones.

The Netherlands, Belgium and other Your-A-Peon countries have legalized drugs and prostitution. In Germany you are selected by the state as a child as to whether or not your going to college, a tech school or the unskilled labor force. Once you have been trained/educated for that job your it FOR LIFE. VERY few break out of the mold they are forced in. And if your industry is no longer needed you're a ward of the state, and with their economies collapsing as is ours, how well do you think they will fare?

The Netherlands are now euthanizing, KILLING, their elderly under their gov't run health care system.

Crime? Well, it is a crime to wash your car at home in Germany, pollution you know. They have foreign nationals, minorities who are just as troublesome and costly as ours are.

Your ignorance in this is just astonishing.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2,Your questions are irrelavent as usual. You compare crime between this country and Europe with out commenting on the vast influence illegal aliens have on crime in this country. Of course you support these criminals.

You whine about a living wage and vacations. Nothing keeps you from having them other than the refusal to earn them with the possible exception of the destruction of the economy by Obama's policies.

If you were concerned about the status of education, you would support education vouchers so poor students that are serious about getting an education can escape the crime ridden sewers that many public schools have become due to liberal policies. These policies are exemplified by the rewriting of history the left wants to accomplish as exposed by the textbook wars in Texas.

I am not an expert on drug use in Europe, but once again I refer you to the problems caused by your illegal alien drug smuggling friends as to its use in this country. Ditto for the number of citizens behind bars.

Are Europeans freer? No they have no bill of rights for the most part.

Happier? Apparently not as so many of them want to immigrate here.

Better journalists? No about equally bad as the media both here and there is predominately left wing. Thanks to Fox News and a few others this country is marginally better.

I have now answered your consistently repeated questions yet again. Please copy they so you can paste them for yourself after you ask them again next week. Do you not ever get tired of chanting La La La La La?

Blogger, excellent post. Maybe your Biblical reference explains why so many consider the far left to be swine.

Wolf's Head said...

LPOV what I believe is irrelevant,

Blogger was using a literary reference, so I understand why you have trouble understanding it.

Liberal POV said...

RT Sender

Make your pitch for strict capitalism like in the days of Dickens, the1900 Robber Barrons or Hoover.

Do you Tea Party folks want to return to child labor and reduced worker safety.

What's your model that works so well. Columbia, Chile, 1980 Venezuela?

The best things this country ever did was the GI Bill, Social Securty, and Medicare.

What do you think would happen to small towns across this country where many conservative support comes from if all government checks to food stamps, Social Security, Medicare, Medicad, Grants to towns all dried up?

Police, Nurses, Teachers, Hospital maintance personel would all see major job loss.

What you think you know just ain't so!

guy faulkes said...

As Liberalproverbs18:2 says about himself in the third person, what he thinks he knows just ain't so. More La La La La La.

Honest Debate said...

This one's bound to stir up some controversy.

Johnny Rico said...

Well said Blogger!! You ask some great questions on why liberal politicians, who have no support from the folks who elected them into office, are not listening. I guess we have to turn no further than Liberal Socialist Lemming POV. He doesn't know why (and certainly cannot explain why) he thinks what he thinks. This whole thing is a phenomenon.

John Rico

Blogger said...

Honest Debate. Thanks for the controversial cartoon. I had written Sen. Kay Hagan a few weeks back suggesting that a logo like that should be the new Democratic party logo. I wish I had seen your post and I could have sent it to her. I may do it anyway. Again thanks, that picture nails it.

Blogger said...

Liberal POV Sarkazein answered my question as follows: "Liberals have always claimed they know what is good for everyone else. So it could just be liberalism run amuck and many in Congress are suffering from a bad case of collective behavior."

POV note that he responded appropriately to my question. I guess we are all going to have to see if you are trainable. Anyway, when you are answering a question I propose, I would first like a thoughtful response before you hit your let's-go-play-in-the-weeds button.

Liberal POV said...

Conservative Mob

What's your model.

What will deliver the most freedom with the least misery?

What period in history do you want to retreat to? How far do you want to turn the clock back?

Blogger said...

To the founders of our country would be a good place to start.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Before slavery and genocide of the indians or after?

Please expand.

Do you think the GI Bill was a good idea?

Blogger said...

Utah's lone Democratic Congressman Jim Matheson voted against Obamacare when it first passed the House last year. Then the heavens opened up and Obama came forth to nominate his brother Scott to a federal judgeship. Will the appointment influence Matheson's vote? Was it a bribe? Dick Morris asks.

Blogger said...

According to Stupak, that group of twelve pro-life House Democrats — the “Stupak dozen” — has privately agreed for months to vote ‘no’ on the Senate’s health-care bill if federal funding for abortion is included in the final legislative language. Now, in the debate’s final hours, Stupak says the other eleven are coming under “enormous” political pressure from both the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.). “I am a definite ‘no’ vote,” he says. “I didn’t cave. The others are having both of their arms twisted, and we’re all getting pounded by our traditional Democratic supporters, like unions.”

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"genocide of the indians"

Yes, this was terrible as was the genocide of 85 men, women, and CHILDREN at the hands of liberal Democrats in Waco, Texas. How come you folks never seem to want to talk about that?

Also, the Indians displaced other races to become the dominant race. So aren't they just as guilty of genocide as anyone else?

If you really, truly care about the Indians, then give your house and land to them. It is their land after all, right? Put your money where your mouth is and do the right thing according to your standards. LOL!!!

This ought to be interesting!!!!!!

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

sarah

PS That one really stings dont' it?

LOL!!!!

Blogger said...

So now the Dems have attached the student aid bill to the health care bill. Mitch McConnell responded: "We now have the government running banks, insurance companies, car companies, and they do want to take over the student loan business."

Government control is what all of this has forever been about.

Sarkazein said...

POV-

Give your money to the poor, give your land back to the Indians you stole it from, donate your cars to the NAACP, buy two one way tickets to France (one for you and one for a deserving Muslim terrorist) and go live in your Utopia. At least give your land back to the Indians you stole it from. Receiving stolen property is a crime after-all.

Sarkazein said...

Blogger-
I can't believe these Democrat congressmen can let Pelosi push them around like this. They know what it is doing to their political future yet they allow it.
Maybe it has been Pelosi all this time with the 666 on the side if her head. It's just that the numerals are so stretched they look like ///.

Liberal POV said...

GOP Mob

What period in history do you want to retreat to? How far do you want to turn the clock back?

What is your model?

Want to tell me what a failure the GI Bill was?

Anonymous said...

I'm not an official ACORN spokesperson, nor do I play one on TV, but I would like to thank all of you on their behalf. For those of you that work multiple jobs trying to make ends meet, it must give you a good feeling to have a portion of your hard earned wages taken from you to be given to an organization that refuses to allow an independent investigation into its books. Just think how you have pesonally benefited! You could have wasted any surplus cash on a charity of your own choice.

Liberal POV said...

Anonymous and Mob Participants


What percent of ACORN is Governmemnt Grant money or Taxpayer dollars?

What You Think You Know Just Ain't So!

Liberal POV said...

Johnny and others of the Racist ACORN Lynch Mob

What You think You Know Just Ain't So!

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-acorn-criminal-wrong-doing,0,144032.story

Blogger said...

According to the League of American Voters, the final battle has arrived.
News reports suggest that the Congress will vote on Obamacare by next Sunday.
An internal Democrat memo that has been leaked tells House staffers to keep their “member’s schedule pretty clear for next weekend.

The memo adds, ominously: “At this point, we have to just rip the band-aid off and have a vote -- up or down.”

Our Washington sources say Democrats will likely vote late -- in the dead of the night on the weekend -- as they have done with other key votes.

They vote in darkness because they are ashamed of their votes

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"Johnny and others of the Racist ACORN Lynch Mob"

Uh oh, that must have really struck a nerve with you. When a liberal socialist feels he/she is losing they ALWAYS do what Sheeple POV just did, call people names in an emotional laced tirade designed to take the heat of their inablility to answer simple questions. LOL!!!

Sheeple Lemming POV, what did it feel like to spit on returning Vietnam Vetrans? Would you be willing to stand in front of out of work carpenters, stonemasons, young boys wanting to make a buck mowing grass in the summer, drywallers and other and tell them that they are lazy and deserve to have their jobs taken by criminals (illegal aliens)?

This ought to be interesting!!

Sarah

Johnny Rico

PS Or we could build a high speed rail across the US which would solve all our problems!! LOL!!!!

Stings don't it?

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

I see you have taken lessons from Guy created a fictional character to debate as reality won't work for you.

Why do you and Guy feel the need to be so dishonest?

Ethic and morality be damned you must win the political debate with ficticous liberals created to fit your own ignorance.

I've never seen such moral bankruptcy as in the right wing mob here.
What humanity do you people claim?
Do you really think you make good citizens, good neighbors, good friends, good spouses, Good fathers or mothers?

All I can see n you is very ulgy Americans.

What part of your character do I not see?

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

See if you can find one news story or photograph of an American Serviceman being spit on during the Vietnam era.

I think the first time this shows up is in a Chick Norris movie. That not to say it never happened ever, but if it did it was very rare.
Lots of stories like Guys who knew someone who knew someome that said it happened to them.
Find some historical edivence it happened.

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

See if you can find any news story or photograph of an American Serviceman being spit on during the Vietnam era.

I think the first time this shows up is in a Chuck Norris movie. That's not to say that it never happened, but if it did it was very rare.
Lots of stories like Guy's who knew someone who knew someone that said it happened to them.
Find some historical evidence it happened.

What You conservatives think you know just ain't so.

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

"In 1995 sociologist Thomas Beamish and his colleagues analyzed all peace movement-related stories from 1965 - 1971 in the NY Times, LA Times, and SF Chronicle (495 stories). They found no instance of any spitting on returned troops by peace movement members, nor any taunting. Indeed, they found few examples of negative demonstrations involving returning troops of any kind, or even of simple disapproval of returning soldiers. Three years later, sociologist Jerry Lembcke conducted a similarly exhaustive study for his book, The Spitting Image, with like results. He discovered war protesters being spat upon by war supporters, and hostile acts toward Vietnam veterans by conservative, pro-war groups like the VFW, but no taunting or spitting on returned veterans by peace movement members. Returned veterans and in-service GIs were welcomed in the peace movement, and many assumed leadership roles. Yet the myth endures"

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0318-12.htm

Sarkazein said...

Just looked at H.D's Obama Akbar. That was great. It is now my wallpaper.

Blogger said...

The following theory comes from one of my family members. It goes like this: No insurance executive smart enough to get to the top of a large company is so stupid that he or she would raise rates at the most critical point in the health reform process. Yet they did. Some as much as 40 percent.

Why raise fees at this precise point a few weeks from the vote? Here is my kins’ theory: By July Obama had already met with insurance executives 27 times. He continued to hold meetings throughout the year right up until last week. Here is what he could have said: “We want you guys to make yourself into monsters. At the moment when the vote is obviously near, we want you to raise your fees to obscene levels. Really make yourselves into the evil empire. We will then have every Democrat flood the airwaves with tragic stories of the people back home you have injured.

Your actions will push the bill over the top. Because the bill mandates everyone has to have insurance, you will have 30 million new customers, many of them young who will not use insurance. When that happens, you can afford to lower your premiums as well as paying for the uninsurable. You will then look like Mother Theresa.

Can sleazy Chicago politicians come up with such a scheme. You betcha. (Does anyone have a better explanation?)

Sarkazein said...

Blogger-

They are trying to get their rates up before they are frozen.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"(Does anyone have a better explanation?)"

Lets go with single payer and cut out the insurance companies all together.

Sarkazein said...

POV-
explanation |ˌekspləˈnā sh ən|
noun
a statement or account that makes something clear : the birth rate is central to any explanation of population trends.
• a reason or justification given for an action or belief : my application was rejected without explanation.

Blogger said...

Sarkazein yours is too simple. All the deviousness and duplicity about this bill screams out for conspiracy theories. If the insurance companies did not have something going on under the table, they would never risk the wrath that would come down on them for doing what you propose. They have to know if the bad guys win this fight, they will come down on them like meteors from the sky.

I don't believe insurance CEO's are that reckless. They could be next in the takeovers if they don't behave.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, I had a cousin and a friend that were spit on after their return from Vietnam. As you are a terrorists supporting traitor who, if he did not spit on returning vets, certainly would have, I do not care if you believe it or not. I care very little about your inane rants on any subject.

As far as believing is concerned, I have trouble believing you are a vet, you are a business person, or you are as old as you indicate. To judge from your posts, you would seem to be an entitlement baby about 23 years of age.

Sarkazein said...

Blogger-

I am suggesting this is like most other things the government involves itself. The end-user pays more as the government gets involved.
If the oil companies knew the government was going to regulate prices starting January 1, 2011, they would try to adjust their price accordingly in the meantime.
If it wasn't for the fact Obama is going to move to single-payer socialized health-care, and eliminate private insurance, the insurance CEOs might play ball with that conspiracy, but I think the CEOs know they would be cooperating with their own demise.
There is only a handful of Chicago sleezebags like Obama and Rahm and Ayers, and I don't think the insurance execs are capable of stooping to Obama's level.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Liberalproverbs18:2, I had a cousin and a friend that were spit on after their return from Vietnam.

Did anyone witness the insolent or photograph the event? Can you not find one photograph or news story from the vietman era to show it was as wide spread as conversatives like to make believe or that any such event ever happened?

guy faulkes said...

Sark is 100% correct. Anytime the government is involved, prices go up and efficiency goes down. This is inevitable because the government is added as a middleman in the process.

In addition, the government is the only entity in existence that is governed by positive feedback. It justifies its involvement by usurping more power and increasing its involvement which leads to it usurping yet more power and increasing its involvement and over and over and over. A machine that runs in this manner eventually flies apart.

Obama's policies have hastened this outcome with the government. All of our big government politicians have added to the problem, but they were pikers compared to Obama.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, several members of his family witnessed one incident. The other gentleman is a church deacon and a police chief. I think he can be trusted. (Unlike you. I notice you do not contest my suspicions of your statements concerning yourself. This was very wise of you, because how could I trust anything a traitor such as you says?)

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"As far as believing is concerned, I have trouble believing you are a vet, you are a business person, or you are as old as you indicate. To judge from your posts, you would seem to be an entitlement baby about 23 years of age."

Does this explain why you make up your own version of what a liberal is?

You can't believe a real liberal could be a blue collar worker raised on a farm, working from the age of 14, buying his own clothing, spending money ,car, paying taxes, social security, serve in the military, buy his first home for he and his wife while still a teenager. You don't believe a liberal could work for 41 years and never be unemployed or draw a single unemployement check or any form of government assistance. The last seven years of that as a business owner.

What this blue collar liberal knows very well is assholes like you.

What you think you know just ain't so.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Liberalproverbs18:2, several members of his family witnessed one incident. The other gentleman is a church deacon and a police chief."

Then if you are telling the TRUTH you should have no trouble finding a news story or photograph from that era to prove such spitting really happened.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

What do you find to be your biggest complain about your government funded Medicare?

Does your Social Security check arrive on time?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Sark is 100% correct. Anytime the government is involved, prices go up and efficiency goes down. "

What for profit company will deliver a letter to a remote resident in New Mexico for less than $1.00?

What for profit business will operate the library for free?

Why do the insurance companies not want the government to offer government ran insurance policy?

Sarkazein said...

There is a GOOD point to the Obama/insurance premium increase conspiracy. This would be felony price fixing. A definite high crime. Unlike the Clinton impeachment based on a President violating a citizen's civil rights to protect his own purse and perverted lifestyle.
This would be a RICO Act crime, which got a lot of other Chicagoans locked-up. HOPEfully the suggested conspiracy proves out, it's a long time to 2012.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socailist Sheep said:

"All I can see n you is very ulgy Americans"

And all is yellow in the jaundice eye.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"See if you can find one news story or photograph of an American Serviceman being spit on"

Don't need one, you admitted that you did it over on Watauga Watch. I look no further than you, you dishonest coward. You place Muslim Terrorists above American Soldiers in the current war and spit on Americans in prior ones. You are a traitor and should be tried for sedition.

Johnny Rico

That has to sting

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"They found no instance of any spitting on returned troops by peace movement members"

Wow, you are truly crazy. Trying to rewrite history again I see. Using the ole Procrustean Stretch eh. Procrustes, if you remember non-re written history at all, stretched his victims to fit the bed he wanted them to sleep in. Instead of going with the natural order of things, he attempted to change or re-route to fit himself. You are of the Procrustean mold. Idiot.

Johnny "Truth" Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV said:

"Did anyone witness the insolent"

Are you calling Guy a liar?

Sarkazein said...

POV wrote-"What for profit company will deliver a letter to a remote resident in New Mexico for less than $1.00?"


Then pay to forward to Houston where he is living illegally.

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

Can you find ONE image or News story from the Vietman era to support your claim it was common place?

Try to move to reality. Take some medicine or drugs what ever calms you down.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"Then pay to forward to Houston where he is living illegally."

Is this your way of admitting good government programs can work?

Do you want the United States Government to deliver more than mail and wars or just war?

Is it the Tea Bag World's position The United States Government's only business should delivering war?

Sorry if this sounds like a really dumb question but the Tea Party world has come up with dumb stuff?

Sarkazein said...

POV- Think "loses money consistently and is subsidized by tax money". If this is your version of success, I suggest you look up the word success along with the word explanation.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"Then pay to forward to Houston where he is living illegally."

Is this your way of admitting good government programs can work?

Do you want the United States Government to deliver more than mail and wars or just war?

Is it the Tea Bag World's position The United States Government's only business should delivering war?

Sorry if this sounds like a really dumb question but the Tea Party World has come up with really dumb stuff? I think you people are being played as real fools by those getting rich on your ignorance.
PS: Be sure to buy Sarah Palin's book and for $500.00 you can have lunch with her in Wilkesboro NC.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2 refuses to believe those that it actually happened to. He is therefore just continuing his traitorous ways. No big surprise. He has no rebuttal for the reason government intervention causes costs to increase. However, he sure can chant La La La La La. Pelsoi has no trouble bending slaves like him to her will.

He also complains that the government declares war but then complains we fight wars the government does not declare. Hummm..

Liberalproverbs18:2, we want the government to do exactly what the contract between it and the people allows. This contract is the Constitution. We do not want or need big brother government to exceed these issues such as you desire.

Sarkazein said...

POV- You don't have to convince me that you can ask unthinking questions by posting the same comment twice.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

If your rewrite of history of the Vietnam era is true and as common place as you claim you should be able to find at least one story or image during that time frame of this happening.
Like I always say what you conservatives think you know just ain't so!

Fox and Rush have sure dumbed the Republicans down.

Blogger said...

Going around on e-mail:
Let me get this straight......we're trying to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a
president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, with
funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay
his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is
obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

That was a better try. Do you like your medicare?

Do you think seniors are better off with medicare and social security?

Liberal POV said...

Guy or Johnny

Have you found any of those photos or historic news stories to support your propaganda lies?

Not your falult many were taken by the same lie.

What you think you know just ain't so.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, I do not have to have a news story when I have first hand accounts. It might interest you to know that of the three times I was at an event that was reported by the left wing media, not one was reported correctly.

You may have hit on something though when you claim they were commonplace. Maybe they were so common that reporting it would have been the same as reporting a cloud in the sky. I do not remember it this way around here, but until traitors like you moved in, this was a ultra conservative area. When I was in college at ASU, I went to an anti-war rally. There were more of us protesting the protesters than there were anti war participants.

As your masters have pulled the fleece over your eyes so far you are permanently blind, I hope for your sake they decide to keep on shearing you. They can do that many times, but they can only kill you once. This is what the rude awakening is going to do to you when you have to start paying the bill for Obama's big government, socialist policies.

Honest Debate said...

Good one Blogger!

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Liberalproverbs18:2, I do not have to have a news story when I have first hand accounts."

You cannot find a photo or News story from the Vietnam era of protesters spitting on returning soldiers because it's a urban legend or lie.

We have seen you strech the truth here repeatly and found you to be dishonest in your debating.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"When I was in college at ASU, I went to an anti-war rally. There were more of us protesting the protesters than there were anti war participants. "

50,000 young men of my generation died in Vietnam and close to o million Vietnamese died.

Do you now believe that was a needless war?

What were we fighting for?

How was Vietnam a threat?

We lost but what did we loss besides fine young men and women?

You were wrong then and you are still wrong today.

Sarkazein said...

Obama throws like a GIRL

guy faulkes said...

It was not a needless war. It was a war that was lost due to the liberal left wanting to fight a politically correct war. It allowed the spread of communism through Asia and beyond. Many young men did die in vain because they were stabbed in the back by politicians and traitors such as you, Kerry, and Hanoi Jane.

As for those young men being of your generation, that is debatable. I still believe you are a entitlement baby about 23 years old. If not you would remember issues from that time period without having to resort to google to be able to speak on them.

You must be sorely vexed that the Constitution keeps getting in the way of your masters' desires.

Blogger said...

A new witch has joined the spell casters and she has an appropriate name.
Using the House Rules Committee to draft a new rule that would make it possible for Speaker Pelosi to pass the bill without an actual vote! This jaw-dropping abuse of power has appropriately been labeled the “Slaughter Strategy” after Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY).
It would give members of the Democratic Caucus cover. Why, you ask? Because it would skip the step that would force our lawmakers to place an “aye” vote next to a radioactive, unpopular piece of legislation that they will have to defend until Election Day in the fall.

This type of manipulation of government process might be the most perverse we’ve seen to date.
From today’s opinion article on FoxNews.comby By Andrea Tantaros

Blogger said...

After they jam the Senate version through the House, the next move is House Dems will work to implement its objections in a separate bill that would then go to the Senate, where the Democratic leaders seem ready to incorporate the changes by a simple majority vote. That will be when reconciliation will be used for the first time in history on such a major take over by the government.

Just think of it. We no longer need a House of Representatives. They can just pass Senate bills. Then we don't need a Senate because legend has it that when Jefferson asked why the need of the second body Washington says, “we pour legislation into the senatorial saucer to cool it.”

That is why we are supposed to have a super majority for legislation which changes our whole life.

Blogger said...

It is not surprising we get the Slaughter amendment from a NY congresswoman. There appears to be something in the NY water. She will be the fourth corrupt NY person in just a couple of weeks.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"Can you find ONE image or News story from the Vietman era to support your claim it was common place?"

Don't need to. You are a living example who has admitted to it in past posts. Also, Guy's cousin was spit on. Good enough for me.

You never answered if you were calling Guy a liar.

Bet on one thing though - I AM calling you a hypocrite.

LOL

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

Billy

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep POV:

The Vietnam War, the war in which you spit on returning vets, was indeed a needless war. It was needless in the fact that it introduced, as Faulks alluded to, political correctness into war fighting.

Political correctness, portended by liberal socialists like you, has been the bane of US warfighting since we lost in Vietnam. To daly when we could win in a few short months is more than criminal. Folks like you who believe in spilling the blood of Americans so as not to "upset" the Muslims should be tried for treason. It is because of you that 4000 Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. Had us conservatives been fighting that war, it wouldn't have been much of a fight. Like the last time we won a war (WWII), the war would have been brought to the people which in turn would have capitulated Al Queda and other Muslim Extremists.

So, like when you spit on vets, you are spilling the blood of Americans and laughing about it.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS Stings don't it?

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

" Had us conservatives been fighting that war, it wouldn't have been much of a fight."

I would like to remind you that It was you conservatives that were in charge of fighting both wars the first six years.

Smarter people are in charge now,hopefully they can clean up the mess your people made.

Liberal POV said...

Johnny

"Don't need to. You are a living example who has admitted to it in past posts. Also, Guy's cousin was spit on. Good enough for me. "

You should know by now you can't believe Guy.

I didn't think either of you could find one news story or one photograph to support your urban legend of Vietnam era soldiers being spit on.

First of all the draft was in place and those returning men were the brothers, friends and family of many protesting the war.
Second don't you think these soldiers would have kicked the ass of anyone who did spit on them?
What fools you people are? You'll believe anything.

guy faulkes said...

As you seem to place so much credence in news stories, I guess Oamam's being a Kenyan is fixed in your mind.

Of the two of us, I have a hunch more would believe me than you, Liberalproverbs18:2.

Out of idle curiosity, is your support for ACORN due to their fraud in voter registration to benefit liberals or their promoting houses of ill repute to benefit pedophiles? There are many news stories about both issues.

Which news stories caused your support of terrorism and your terrorist heroes? Which made you a traitor?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Johnny ask this question. "You never answered if you were calling Guy a liar?"

The answer would be yes!

Your post speaks to that as you know because we disagree on political issues there's no need for you to post such lies and slander.

Guy I have no idea what your real name is but I know you to be dishonest.

Wolf's Head said...

As someone who has had business dealings with Guy Fawkes, I can tell you he is honest to the point of hurting himself to stop even the appearance of doing someone wrong.

LPOV you owe him an apology.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- You should take that comment from a Bizarro Land resident as a compliment. Up is down, right is wrong, terrorists are freedom fighters, Bill Clinton is honest... and like that.

guy faulkes said...

Wolf and Sark, thank you for your support. I am honored by your statements.

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"What's your model."

And what is your model. Is it accepting government intrusion into your personal life; failing to recognize the basic rights of American citizens; putting trust in politicians; using other people's hard earned taxpayer money to subsidize your laziness?


Or is it all of the above? LOL!!!

Your model has been proven wrong time and again - Nazi Germany, Red China, Russian Genocide, Darfur in the Sudan, and many, many more.

Your ole pal

Johnny Rico

PS Stings don't it?

Blogger said...

Pelosi controls every aspect of a House member's career. She can turn on and off the spigot of money to his campaign, move the member's office to the broom closet in the basement, cut back on his staff and travel allowances, move him to the DC and Post Office Committees and bring mayhem to his official life.

But beyond her power lies the penalty of exile and ostracism. The House is very much a fraternity/sorority of members and group-think is very much in vogue
(Dick Morris e-mail)

Blogger said...

According to today’s Telegraph.co.uk Obama says he will not support, campaign, or raise money for any Democrat who votes no on his so-called health care reform bill. There is also a rumor that he is promising those who will be losing their jobs in Congress this Fall (the estimate is that it can go as high as 60, the White House will find government jobs including some ambassadorships.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

Obama need to remember he won the election and nothing he does will find approval with people like you.
He needs to move forward without the flat earthers like you.
Obama's biggest mistake so for is wasting political capital on the likes of you and Ms Foxx.
This should have been a single payer reform not catering to insurance companies.

Johnny Rico said...

Am I to assume you do not disagree with the "models" paradigm I placed you with? Each time you are silent, I know I have won. Easy stuff.

Johnny Rico

guy faulkes said...

Obama has no political capital to waste. As I said elsewhere, his campaigning for you is the kiss of death.

Blogger said...

We had 99 comments so I just added this to make it an even 100.

Blogger said...

All it took to switch Kusinich from his ideals to selling out was letting him ride in Airforce One.

Simon Jester said...

I wonder if Kusinich got to join the Five Mile High Club? Obama would do anything for a vote.

Blogger said...

As a vote approaches on Obama and Pelosi’s government takeover of healthcare, Code Red is now considering two supposedly “undecided” California Democrats, Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa, to now be “yes” votes.

The U.S. Department of Interior announced yesterday that it is increasing water allocations for the Central Valley of California, a region that depends on these water allocations to support local agriculture and jobs. The region has recently been starved for water and as a result unemployment has soared. Not surprisingly, Cardoza and Costa had a hand in the announcement:
From NRCC

Blogger said...

These last minute undecided members of congress remind one of the story of the man who asked a woman if she would have sex with him for money.

She agrees and he then asks if $20 will do. Indignantly she asks "What kind of woman do you take me to be."

He answers: "We have already established that. Now we are trying to establish what your price is."

Simon Jester said...

Was the woman underage? If she was, was the man LPOV?