This blog,originally founded by Blogger, who is listed in Marquis Who's Who and is a recipient of the Albert Nelson Marquis Lifetime Achievement Award. He holds a theological degree and a doctorate in Counseling Psychology. Taught Psychology for 32 years and is now Professor Emeritus. Is a board-certified psychologist and was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award in his profession. Ministered as a chaplain, and pastored Baptist and Episcopal churches. Publications cover the integration of psychology and theology. Served in the Army, the Merchant Marines and the Peace Corps.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Pelosi's Demon Pass


Not many of you took my demon postDemons seriously a little while back but now look at this:American Thinker "

We said it first on A Watauga Conservative. Now another thoughtful group has weighed in.

"Nancy Pelosi calls it "deem and pass," but the phrase sure sounds more like "Demon Pass." And the ‘sound' of what the Democrats propose is closer to the truth; our nation stands atop a mountain divide, and the populace waits to learn if we will continue our trek along a sun-drenched ridge, or if we will plunge headlong into a cold valley oppressed by fog and mist." American Thinker

50 comments:

Blogger said...

"Last year, the Democrats passed the stimulus bill without reading it.

This year, they are trying to pass the healthcare bill without voting on it."
Newt Gingrich on today's e-mail

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

" Now another thoughtful group has weighed in. "

This would be a strech.

Not much thinking happens inside the Republican party.

Tell me about this witch craft demon thing you seem to believe in? Is that like the VooDoo religion or back to the days of Salem ?
I know you people want to turn the clocks back but to where?

Blogger said...

Liberal, if you would study your Bible, you would not have to ask me these questions. Jesus told His disciples that they were to do what He did, i.e. cast out demons and heal the sick. In dong that, they were establishing the Kingdom of Heaven. Read the Book of Acts and learn that that was exactly what they did.

As I have told you many times, the reason you have trouble understanding is that you have created a secular version to make it fit what you think Jesus' message was.

Learn to cast out demons and heal the sick by the power of Jesus and you will be running with the big boys.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

" Jesus told His disciples that they were to do what He did, i.e. cast out demons and heal the sick."

Wouldn't this be a strong argument for all Americans to be covered under a health care policy similar to what you have with Medicare?

guy faulkes said...

Wouldn't this be a strong argument for all Americans to be covered under a health care policy similar to what you have with Medicare?

No. Socialized medicine results in the rationing of health care.

Blogger said...

POV Why are you asking me these questions? You are supposed to ask Jesus and if you are sincere,He will answer you directly Himself.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"You are supposed to ask Jesus and if you are sincere,He will answer you directly Himself."


I think Jesus would say you're being a hypocrite in opposing the Health Care Bill.

Do you have any evidence other wise?

Do you work to keep justice out of your church as you do keeping justice out of government?

Wolf's Head said...

LPOV, your have just succeeded in the writing the smarmiest postings since that idiot Shyster.

You MUST be some Conservative posing as an idiot leftist to post the ridiculous postings that you do to demonstrate the insanity of the left.

If so, you have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams.....

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, I did not believe even you would be so arrogant to presume to know the mind of the Almighty. Who are you to deem what constitutes justice in a church you do not even attend or to demand proof of an act of faith? Maybe if you asked Jesus instead of Obama you would arrive at different conclusions than those you now hold. This is a new low even for you.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"No, Socialized medicine results in the rationing of health care."

Isn't that what we have now with the for profit health care system and insurance companies ?

Don't you think those without health care coverage or with preexisting illnesses feel our current system is rationed and they have been excluded?

guy faulkes said...

Isn't that what we have now with the for profit health care system and insurance companies ?

Don't you think those without health care coverage or with preexisting illnesses feel our current system is rationed and they have been excluded? - Liberalproverbs18:2

No, we have no health care rationing. One can receive care anywhere in the country simply by visiting an emergency room.

Sarkazein said...

There were those during the election who wrote Obama would not over-reach, and that he would be a uniter.
Do any of them have the will to say they were wrong? Or are they possessed?

Sarkazein said...

ATLANTA (AP) - Former President Jimmy Carter on Wednesday called the divide among Republicans and Democrats in Washington "unprecedented," and said President Barack Obama should hold private meetings with GOP leaders to make sure the gap doesn't grow.///

Now we hear from one of the disciples of division.

Sarkazein said...

Wolf's Head you wrote:"You MUST be some Conservative posing as an idiot leftist to post the ridiculous postings that you do to demonstrate the insanity of the left."

I have often suspected the same. BUT, it would have to be a software program.

Wolf's Head said...

" Jesus told His disciples that they were to do what He did, i.e. cast out demons and heal the sick."

Wouldn't this be a strong argument for all Americans to be covered under a health care policy similar to what you have with Medicare?" LPOV

Gee, what happened to the liberal commandment of "separation of church and state"?

Bushrod Gentry said...

C'mon guys. Left wing claims of compassion are nothing more than a pretense for robbing their fellow man. You know it, and I know it. Look past their rhetoric and all that remains is envy.

Sarkazein said...

It's just as Jesus preached to entrust Pontius Pilate and the Roman government with charity and humanity.

Liberal POV said...

Conservatives

What period in history represents the model you want to return to?

Blogger said...

Another clue about Pelosi. A study published today found that San Francisco is the most stressed out city in the country. The people require a psychiatrist for every 10 people according to the study. This means that a large number of those who vote for Pelosi are under psychiatric care.

No surprises here.

guy faulkes said...

What period in history represents the model you want to return to

The era of the Reagan administration.

guy faulkes said...

Please tell us about your education, Liberalproverbs18:2, if you had any. Why do you keep dodging the question on an issue you brought up?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Please tell us about your education, "

I graduated high school, went to a trade school got a job with a major America corporation the day I turn 18 droped out of the trade school and have been learning ever sense. Unlike you my education has never stopped. I've traveled the world and seen much with my own eyes.

Blogger said...

As chief Representative, Pelosi gets to say she represents the people. Knowing that most of the people she knows are psychiatric cases, we can better understand why she is so out of touch with America.

Sarkazein said...

Blogger- Pelosi is the Majority Whip. There is no way she is Speaker of the House. She makes Tom Delay look like a middle of the roader.

Sarkazein said...

Imagine the EXTRA millions of dollars Obama's changing his visit to his birth place has cost.

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, thank you. That was not so hard, was it?

There is nothing wrong with a trade school. For a brief period, I used to teach at one.

One's education never stops, unless they drink the Kool Aid of their political masters until they cannot think for themselves as do you. However, maybe there is hope for you yet. Hopefully you have learned from this not to attack people unless you are willing to have the same methods applied to you.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

When did your mind close to the realities of the world?

Why would you believe the myth of a liberal media when the only media in America is owned by the world's largest multi national corporations?

Why would you believe America has the world's best Health Care System when there's no facts to support such a claim? You may successfully argue America has some of the world's best doctors and hospitals but not health care system.

Why would you argue for wars and then be surprised at the huge deficits?

How could you have studied history and have such a simple view of the world and the problems facing all of us today?

Why would you support human rights abuse?

Why would you want American citizens to have to beg for health care?

The donation jars in stores for a child's medical treatment is a disgrace in this country. Why should they have to beg for what is a basic human right?

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18;2, I will answer your questions once again although they have been answered many times before.

When did your mind close to the realities of the world? It has not. Yours certainly has. The majority of the citizens of this country agree with me.

Why would you believe the myth of a liberal media when the only media in America is owned by the world's largest multi national corporations? The liberal bias of the media is not a myth. An objective review of the number of times liberal favoring issues are reported on versus the number of times conservative issues receive coverage clearly shows this. Ownership of the media does not matter. Their conduct does.

Why would you believe America has the world's best Health Care System when there's no facts to support such a claim? You may successfully argue America has some of the world's best doctors and hospitals but not health care system. Because people from all over the world come here for health care to receive treatment they either cannot receive or do not trust in their own country. Of course this proves we have the world's best health care system.

Why would you argue for wars and then be surprised at the huge deficits? I am not surprised at the costs of wars which are necessary for our survival. I am also not surprised at the deficits created by socialist entitlement policies that redistribute wealth from those that earn it to those that are perfectly capable of earning a living but choose to vote themselves bread and circuses instead.

How could you have studied history and have such a simple view of the world and the problems facing all of us today? My view of the world and our problems are the result of my study of history. If you do not study history, as you have not, you have no means to form an opinion. It is evident that you wish to use the socialist policies that have failed everywhere they have been tried rather than free market policies that made this the greatest country in the world for the last 200 years. If you do not learn from mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them. This is your curse. You cannot learn. Another way to say this is that if you do not know where you have been, you can't know where you are going. Stop believing the Kool Aid served by your political master, the man-child Messiah, and do some research for yourself.

Why would you support human rights abuse? I do not. I support a effective, legal interrogation policy for foriegn enemy combatants, You know, your terrorist heroes.

Why would you want American citizens to have to beg for health care? I do not and they do not. Anyone can go to an emergency room and receive treatment. There are public health facilities. Everyone, even the criminal illegal aliens you call undocumented workers gets health care.

The donation jars in stores for a child's medical treatment is a disgrace in this country. Why should they have to beg for what is a basic human right? First of all, these jars are not a disgrace; they are a tribute to the generosity of those that voluntarily aid someone that does not wish to accept government aid. Secondly health care is not a right.

Now a question for you. Why do you support pedophiles abusing underage illegal alien (undocumented worker) girls in houses of prostitution? Do you not care that they are in danger of venereal disease, aids, and mental trauma?

To everyone else, sorry to take up so much space, but Liberalproverbs18:2 is such an easy target I could not resist.

Anonymous said...

Hey, LPOV, are the collection jars for the Red Cross and the March of Dimes a disgrace too?

Liberal POV said...

Anonymous

People shouldn't have to beg for medical treatment.

Why do you think begging jars are the answer to a broken health care system?

Liberal POV said...

Tea Party Empire of Flat Earthers

Is the begging jar your plan for health care reform?

Reader said...

The only jar Lib loves is the tip jar. I think that's tacky and it's begging you to give them gratitude. Now I believe in tipping wait staff, mail people, garbage guys, newspaper guy, piano players and bands. Sort of reminds me of Pelosi and her gang. They want to be tipped, for spending our money. I'd like to know why God has put these people in office. How angry is He?

Liberal POV said...

Reader

You failed to answer the question.

Is the begging jar your plan for health care reform?

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, your begging jar example is ridiculous. These are usually an effort made by a group or individual to help someone them know. Many times the money is not used for health care at all, but for living expenses or for the family to stay at a motel near the hospital. Explain how your stealing money from those that do not wish to give it and distributing it to people that could afford to buy their own insurance is in any way preferrable to people freely giving money to a person that they feel deserves it.

Also, I am interested in hearing your answer to the question about the Red Cross and the March of Dimes.

Now finally the question that is not going away until you answer it.

Why do you support pedophiles abusing underage illegal alien (undocumented worker) girls in houses of prostitution? Do you not care that they are in danger of venereal disease, aids, and mental trauma?

Reader said...

I'm not going to tell you again Lib, remember this please. I believe we need reform in our health care system...but I don't like this bill nor will I approve of one with abortion payments in it. The American people cannot afford this.

Liberal POV said...

Reader

Do you believe medicare has work out well for seniors, and widows widowers and their children?

The same group was out there as medicare saying the same things.

The Republican Party's main goal is to protect the interest of Banking , Insurance, Coal, Pharmaceuticals, Chemicals, Oil, Sugar and Tobacco.

American citizens are at the bottom of the Republican priority list.

guy faulkes said...

Why are underage illegal alien girls are at the bottom of Liberalproverbs18:2's list. Or looking at it from his prospective, maybe these girls are at the top of his list.

Liberalproverbs18:2

Why do you support pedophiles abusing underage illegal alien (undocumented worker) girls in houses of prostitution? Do you not care that they are in danger of venereal disease, aids, and mental trauma?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

We see you can't engage in Honest Debate, your myths about ACORN have been proven in court to be false but you continue to slander and lie.
Try dealing with reality and facts instead of promoting a new era of Mccarthyism.
Fear, lies, greed and hate seem to be the tools of the republican party.
Your post here confirm such dishonesty that is rotting the core of the party of Lincoln.
You and the Republican Party have become morally bankrupt supporting human rights abuse and anti intellectuals in the dumbing of America.

Reader said...

Sorry Blogger and HD for going off subject. Do you think NC could possibly do this as well?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/19/attorneys-general-south-carolina-florida-set-sue-health-care-reform/

Blogger said...

This week, our great country as we know it is about to disappear. Meanwhile, you commenters, and especially the likes of Liberal POV want to talk about anything but the apocalypse that approaches. Are you Liberals avoidig because you realize what a shameful entity your party has become. And are you Republicans afraid to talk about what has happened because you have been struck dumb with terror?

Liberal POV said...

Blogger


Spread that fear and nonsence. You sillly silly man who has Government Medicare. Did you not see this weeks paper where Watauga County has the highest uninsured in NC? Why should these people be left out of the American Health Care System?

This bill will passs a lot weaker than I had hoped for. I wanted to see real universal health care for all. I wanted to see health care just like fire protection if you need it you get it.

How does an old fart like you have the nerve to complain about government run health care while on government run health care?

Ms Foxx owes the uninsured a vote case for the Obama plan.

10 years from now Republicans will want to claim support for the health care system as they do Social Security and Medicare today.

Go back to spreading your Fox lies and misinformation.

oatz said...

Liberal POV is Health-care a Right? All the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are rights of self determination. How much of a Doctors time do you have a right to?

Liberal POV said...

Oatz

Yes, Basic health care is a basic human right and has nothing to do with being American it has to do with being human.

Doctors are entitled to be reasonably compensated for their time at a rate at least 5 time that of the median income of the society they practice by the people of that society. Doctors are highly educated and often have huge demands on their lives and should not only be well compensated but also have time for their families. If you disagree with the five times median income pick your own number, but it should remain connected to ordinary citizens.

That said they should not be in competition on who can become the richest.

Would you not stop to assist an injured person and seek additional help? You as a fellow human being have an obligation to lend assistance because it could be you or a member of your family.

Blogger said...

Don't you hate it when the Democrats do something illegal and try to cover themselves with "The Republicans did it first."

Have they forgotten that the Americans fired the Republicans for corrupt behavior.

When people become that stupid you can't help but wonder about them.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

You have lost me what are you referring to, Republican s did lots of illegal things while in office. Stated wars, Torture, Human rights abuse, Page scandal, Enron, Jack Abernoff scandal, wrecked the economy, Sent enlisted men and women to prison for whitehouse policy? Which of these do you mean?

Reader said...

"And are you Republicans afraid to talk about what has happened because you have been struck dumb with terror?"

I thought that's what we've been doing Blogger. As angry as I've been and waiting on a solution to appear and yet still waiting. I saw where states are taking charge and was wondering if NC will follow suit. But with a democrat governor, I don't see it happening.
Until there is a solution, I will continue praying that God will intervene. This could put us out of business and there will be ten families without a job. So don't think I'm not angry over this...I'm furious. Find us a solution, then we can forge ahead.

Wolf's Head said...

"Would you not stop to assist an injured person and seek additional help? You as a fellow human being have an obligation to lend assistance because it could be you or a member of your family." LPOV

You're misrepresenting what you, and health care reform, would do.

Instead of YOU stopping to help someone, you want to put a gun to the head of SOMEONE ELSE and FORCE them to do what you "think" is right.

You a just a thug.

Blogger said...

Reader, I started to respond to your earlier question, then inspired by you I decided instead to put up the WSJ article by Fred Barnes. that article was directly due to your question.

P.S. I agree, businesses will be hurt. The bill is a triple whammy to them. Their taxes will go up. Meanwhile, the government is siphoning money out of the private sector, and finally, with the money disappearing, people have less money to purchase with.

Blogger said...

POV I used the word "corrupt", not "illegal." I would say, pay attention, but I know it is hard for you

Liberal POV said...

Wolf

Is your argument that good citizens have no moral obligation to assist an injured man, woman or child?

Like the High School kids that just watched a classmate being raped. You think those witnessing the event had no moral obligation to call the police, try to stop the rape or assist the woman afterwards?

Health Care for all American is like that we all have a obligation to assist those in need of basic medical health care.
Life has a way of teaching this lesson, your turn may come that you wish you were the one paying for the insurance or taxes rather then the one needing the help.
Which side of that situation had you rather be on?