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Sunday, March 14, 2010

White House Spinners Lie About Health Reform Polls

On all the talk shows this morning the White House spinners kept saying a recent poll reveals the gap against the health reform bill is closing. They lie. Have any of you readers seen such a poll?(Particularly driving us crazy out here is with all the evidence against them they have the cajones to proclaim: “The American people want this.” Those guys should have to pay for the TV sets that get smashed.)

The Real Clear Politics Average which averages all the polls performed during 2/13 - 3/8 finds 41.3 Support, and 48. Against/Oppose, a +7.6 spread. (Some polls during the year had as much as a 20 point spread Against) The last time there were several simultaneous polls finding more in favor than against was in early September of last year. Ever since, the polls have shown consistent rejection of this bill.

The latest Rasmussen Reports survey finds that 42% favor the plan while 53% are opposed. More significant is that these figures include just 20% who Strongly Favor the plan and 41% who are Strongly Opposed.

Although polling data is not complete, out in those conservative states where Republicans won in the past but went Democrat on Obama’s coat tail, some estimates of those now in opposition are as high as 70% opposed. Those are the representatives who are being asked to fall on their swords to save their dear leader's derriere.


Blogger said...

Politico reports: Moderate House Democrats facing potentially difficult reelections this fall have a message for President Barack Obama: Don’t call us; we’ll call you.

They are not inviting him to campaign for them in their districts. This same thing happened to Bush when the bottom dropped out for him.

Blogger said...

Did you watch Cantor and Van Holland on Fox News Sunday. Democrat Holland tries to shut Republican down by using non-verbal acts against him. Every time Cantor is making telling points, Van Holland presses on Cantor’s arm.

I wrote Chris Wallace and asked him why Cantor did not demand that Van Holland quit groping and tickling him.

Liberal POV said...


Did your Social Security check arrive on time this month?

Did Medicare cover all of your recent medical cost?

Now to your post lets say your polls are right close to a billion dollars have been spent by the insurance industry to misinform the American public and it will take real statesman to do what's best for America.

Fox propaganda and the fear media have done their jobs of misinformation and we all know you have done your best while collecting the benefits of medicare to scare the local bloggers.

What the Republicans real fear is this will pass and the public will like it like Social Security and medicare and the Republicans will again be seen as opposing legislation for ordinary citizens.

Keep enjoying good heath thanks to your Medcare coverage.

RT Sender said...

The healthcare bill will cut Medicare payments to doctors by 20%. It will cut funding to Medicare by $500 billion. We will paying for the bill for three years before there is any return. This country is spending borrowed money now and here comes another entitlement. Amnesty will add millions of more people to the program. There has never been a government program that has been within budget. Increasing taxes reduces the GDP without an increase in government revenue. Nobody explains how all the government spending will be paid. We are broke and the debt and the interest on the debt is growing every day. Requiring the public to buy a specific product is not in the Constitution and the Supreme Court may have to shut it down. Prepare yourselves for healthcare rationing.

Honest Debate said...

Perhaps they mean the rate at which the approval numbers are plummeting has slowed.

Liberal POV said...

HD and RT Sender

We keep finding money for the Republican wars don't we?

Wolf's Head said...

It's Obama's wars now.

He's following thru in Iraq with the Bush Plan, which is due to Bush winning the war.

He's expanding the war in Afganistan, and last I looked, Obama was YOUR boy for Prez.

Try to take it like a man and stop whining.

guy faulkes said...

It is going to be interesting to see if Pelosi can bribe or extort enough support to pass this bill in the House. The polls show it is going to be political suicide for many Democrats if she suceeds.

I have to wonder what she can offer or what she can use with which to threaten them. She now controls campaign money and committee appointments. After the elections, she might control money, but when the Republicans take the House, she will fade to the insignificance she deserves.

These Democrats would be smarter if they tell her that all she is going to do is force them to change parties. What do you think would happen if three or four of them did make the switch?

Bushrod Gentry said...

RT, the bankruptcy of the United States is not just a side effect of liberal policies, it is a policy of the radical left. Google the Cloward Pivn strategy.

Bushrod Gentry said...

Oops! Make that the Cloward Piven strategy. Soory. My typo.

Sarkazein said...

Blogger you wrote: " This same thing happened to Bush when the bottom dropped out for him."

This was at the end of President Bush's second term, after months of the MSM attempting assassination.
Obama's standoffishness is in the first half of his first (only) term. I doubt this has ever happened before, at least in our time.

Anonymous said...

Blogger: Catchy topic headline you chose, but where and how did you prove that Democratic spokesmen are "lying" about the polls when claiming the gap is closing?

I see that you cite the RCPA's numbers showing a current 7.8% spread. Then you say the spread was, at one time, as much as 20%.

If it was 20% before and 7.8% now, in which direction would that show the numbers are moving or, as those you'd call liars would say, closing?

guy faulkes said...

Anonymous, maybe you need remedial reading classes. The thread said that the AVERAGE poll shows a 7.6 percent spread. It said SOME individual polls showed a 20$ spread. This is not referring to the identical data. During this time some left wing propaganda polls showed health care to be favored.

The telling part of the thread is:

"The last time there were several simultaneous polls finding more in favor than against was in early September of last year. Ever since, the polls have shown consistent rejection of this bill."

Johnny Rico said...

Liberal Socialist Sheep said:

"We keep finding money for the Republican wars don't we?"

You mean the politically correct wars that liberals like you are causing us to have to fight. Instead of carpet bombing them into oblivion in a few months, you advocate for allowing young US Soldiers to lose their lives because YOU believe we shouldn't blow mosques up. Amazing. And you are blaming us for your own apathy?

You should really see someone.


Your ole pal

Johnny Rico


PS Were you born stupid or did you just get that way

PSS Stings don't it?

Liberal POV said...


Keep stating those insane conservative Republican values.

Johnny are you really Ms Foxx? You sure sound a lot like her.

Johnny Rico said...

Stings don't it?

Anonymous said...

Still nothing provided to back up the "lie" claim. In order to validate that charge, one would need to show through an updated series of a single poll's results or the RCPA's results that the gap is remaining the same or growing.

Of course, if one simply wanted to question the basis of the spinners' claims, that would be a valid question. But without proof, the "lying" charge is not valid in this particular context.

guy faulkes said...

Anonymous, are you saying stating something that is clearly evident to be false as per documentation not a lie when you present it as fact rather than opinion?