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Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Has Our Image Improved?


President Obama wags his finger in Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's face.

"I think we've got a unique opportunity to reboot America's image around the world..." - President Obama

Britain
Israel
Poland
Germany
Georgia
The people of Iran
France
Afghanistan


64 comments:

Blogger said...

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Liberal POV said...

HD

Britain
"In the report itself, the committee of members of parliament said there were "many lessons to be learned" from Britain's approach to the United States over the 2003 Iraq war.

Then premier Tony Blair stood shoulder-to-shoulder with president George W. Bush over the invasion despite a lack of wider international support."

"The perception that the British government was a subservient 'poodle' to the US administration leading up to the period of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath is widespread both among the British public and overseas," it said.

"This perception, whatever its relation to reality, is deeply damaging to the reputation and interests of the UK."

Israel

We have given Isreal over $ One TRILLION in US tax payer dollars we should expect them to respect human rights.

Do you think uninviting the Israeli leader to dinner was to strong a statement for their human rights abuse and building Israeli settlements on Palestinian land?

guy faulkes said...

As a supporter of terrorists that follow lesser Jihad, Liberalproverbs18:2 cannot be expected to refrain from showing his bias towards Israel,or Britain for that matter as he links the British as to the war on terror in the subject of hi post.

Great job, HD. One incident might have just happened. Two might be a coincidence. Three show a policy of poor foreign relations. Seven (or eight if one counts the Dalia Lama) indicates a train wreck as to foreign policy.

Sarkazein said...

I guess POV is remembering those days of yore when Clinton entertained Arafat in the Rose Garden after his daily tryst with the chubby intern while stopping forever the Palestinian suicide bombers and the rocket attacks on civilian locations.

Sarkazein said...

""This perception, whatever its relation to reality, is deeply damaging to the reputation and interests of the UK."-A POV quote of a quote.


This reveals the typical liberal coward's mind-set. Truth doesn't matter, it is the perception. Of course, the perception is created by a liberal media.
This reminds me of the famous POV quote saying... 'make-up brings out the inner beauty'.

Liberal POV said...

HD, Guy and Sark


The writer of the link HD posted under Britain is saying George made the country of UK feel like a "subservient poodle" to the US administration.
Obama's just is trying to clean up the mess made by Republicans. This is what happens when you elect those without talent.

If you ask me what Democrats I'm proud of I can give you a long list of talented, wonderful human being with great character and moral courage.

Franklin Roosevelt

William J Clinton

Jimmy Carter

Al Gore

Ann Richardson

Molly Ivan

Eleanor Roosevelt

Oprah

Jim Hunt

Hugh Morton

Just to name a few

The Democratic Party doesn't always elect talent but the Republican party seldom elects talent.



http://www.extremelysmart.com/andmodest/RepsVsDemsInHistory.php

Honest Debate said...

Lib, Please reread Sark's last post.

Liberal POV said...

HD

The current perception of today's republicans is a party without ideas or moral grounding.
Today's republican party receives it's political power by appealing to the worst of humanity.

Greed, prejudice and revenge

Sarkazein said...

POV, you can't even post a good link. What good are ya?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Try this

http://www.extremelysmart.com/andmodest/RepsVsDemsInHistory.php

Sarkazein said...

Like I said...

Sarkazein said...

Obama parties on while all the disenfranchised non winners of life's lottery suffer.

They (Mr and Mrs Gloria Estefan) are hosting a $30,400-a-couple fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee, and, by extension, helping to fund the entire Democratic Party agenda. It's a proactive, partisan stance that goes well beyond, say, deciding to sing at a presidential inauguration or accepting a presidential appointment to oversee a nonpartisan cause.///

Caviar, Cryst'al and cake for the poor who show up for first come first serve.
Party on Garthama.

guy faulkes said...

Let's see, Liberalprovebs18:2 gives us a list of Democrats of which he is proud.

The first was a president that lengthened the depression by about 10 years through his socialist agenda. he was also a racist that had many fights with his life over the issue. He died on vacation with a woman to whom he was not married.

The second was an adulterer that prejudiced himself and was impeached. His political party saved him from being removed from office. He had not one but many infidelities. If one looks up sexual harassment in a dictionary there is a strong likelihood this man will be pictured.

The third was the worst President in the history of the United states. His policies resulted in the words malaise and misery index. One reason Liberalproverbs18:2 likes him so much is that this man was pushed around by terrorists.

The fourth was a charlatan that perpetuated the fraud of man-made global warming on the public for his own gain.

I could go on, but it is a waste of my time and yours To keep on addressing his meaningless post. Once again he is trying to hijack the thread to take attention away from Obama's shameful treatment of foreign leaders.

I must apologize to you, Liberalproverbs18:2. You have run from the blog for so long that I forgot I told you I would continue to ask you for answers to the questions on guns until you answered them. You have not, so how about some answers?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

I don't care about their personal lives if they make great political decisions that improve humanity.

We should all want to elect talent.

Who on the Republican scene has talent?


Palin? NO

Foxx? NO

Who?

guy faulkes said...

So, Liberalproverbs18:2 if you do not care about the personal lives of the people you admire, your comments on Republican's character are shown to be totally irrelevant. You can't have it both ways.

Most conservative Republicans have talent, including Plain and Foxx. It is the RINO's that are clueless. Fortunately there are fewer of them as they switch parties, like Specter did. I am sure Palin and Foxx appreciate your comments as you are the one most consistently wrong person of which I have ever heard.

Now how about answering the questions about guns? Are you ready to stop running?

Sarkazein said...

"...with his life over the issue. He died on vacation with a woman to whom he was not married.

That's right Guy Faulkes, it wasn't his cousin/wife.

Sarkazein said...

POV, Huchabee and Hannity both play the guitar. DeLay can dance.
Bill Clinton is probably out looking for talent as we speak.

Liberal POV said...

Sarkazein

"POV, Huchabee and Hannity both play the guitar. DeLay can dance. "


Given little to work with you did good. Shame your logic is not as good as your wit.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"Most conservative Republicans have talent, including Plain and Foxx."

Sark got me on this one but I was thinking of more than Clinton's ability to play a sax or "Huchabee and Hannity both play the guitar. DeLay can dance. "

I was thinking of problem solving world issues.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

Can you shoot and field dress a moose? Can you run a city, a state? Can you generate the enthusiasm that Mrs. Palin can? Can anyone?

Talent.

But the real talent is Obama's ability to snub, humiliate and infuriate world leaders such as the ones documented here. He (and by extension our country) is the laughing stock of the world. Refute the evidence put forth or shut up.

Anonymous said...

HD: If Obama continues, as you suggest, to "snub, humiliate and infuriate world leaders," would that not hinder his evil liberal plan to forge a one-world government? And if so, should you not support or even encourage the continuation of such snubbing, humiliating and infuriating actions?

Honest Debate said...

Nonny,

I'm not aware of "his evil liberal plan to forge a one-world government", tell me more.

The words I chose (snub, humiliate and infuriate) were from the articles, they are not mine. I report, you decide. It's just the facts on the ground.

Often times you like to know why I (or Blogger) post a particular thread. This one is to illustrate how Democrats aided by the press created this notion that Bush had damaged America's image abroad and how Obama used that notion in his platform vowing to improve that image. It was flawed. Many East European countries threw out their anti-Bush leaders (Chiraq, Shroeder,Chretien) and replaced them with pro-Bush leaders (Harper, Merkel, Harper). The Western European countries were already pro Bush but got no attention. Poland was grateful for Bush's leadership on missile defesne. Her people respected Bush. Obama turned his back on them. Bush stood with Georgia when Russia invaded and Obama drew moral equivalences. Her people noticed. Bush stood with the people of Iran and repeated it many times. Unfortunately Obama was in office when the opportunity for revolution came to fruition. He turned his back and the opportunity was lost. That was the last real non-military chance to stop their quest for nukes. Africa adored Bush for saving millions from AIDS and malaria. 50 million were liberated in Iraq and Afghanistan (I need to add Karzai's rebuke of Obama to the thread). I'm not saying there was no ill will toward Bush. I'm saying it was way over-hyped.

Obama talked a good game but has not delivered. There is only one thing in this world that is easy, complaining. He has made things worse and the evidence shows that.

Anonymous said...

HD: While a signficant portion of the "ariticles" you cited are merely links to printless diatribes by hobbyist ax grinders, thus, void of editing, fact-checking and objective exposition of things like the could-see-it-coming-a-mile-away high profile public attacks that Poland's leaders planned and launched against Putin during their WWII rememberence ceremony (which kept Britain's Prime Minister and France's President away as well), you do raise at least one very valid point.

The "Britain" link, when read thoroughly, actually serves to knock England's alignment with Bush. And the "Germany" link pretty much says the only real problem Merkel has with Obama is that he, unlike Bush, doesn't fall for her flirty attempts to rally the support of older male world leaders (seriously, read the article). But neither those links nor any of the others disprove the proposition that nearly all non-FOX News media outlets failed in their responsibility to act as rabid cheerleaders and enthusiastic publicists for Bush's occasional ability to not mess up our good existing relationships with certain nations.

To that extent, you are absolutely right.

Honest Debate said...

Nonny,

First, your Fox comment is pure snark. There was no more Bush bashing anywhere. There is no more Obama praising anywhere. They just happen to provide opposing views for both. It's hard to find that anywhere else as well. It was Fox that broke the Bush drunk driving story days before the 2000 election. So c'mon man, you're better than that. Don't turn into another LiberalPOV.

Bush didn't merely "not mess up" things, he made them better. He did save millions in Africa. He did liberate 50 million in Iraq and Afghanistan. He did stand with the people of Iran. He did try to implement missile defense in Poland.

Conversely, it was British members of Parliament that said the relationship was no longer special. Sarkozy did suggest Obama might be insane. Israel's treatment is unprecedented. Obama did support Ahmadinejad's phony election at the expense of her people.

Again, I don't dispute the fact that Bush had his problems. I just think Obama has made it worse. I also contend that the criticism was hyped by "printless diatribes by hobbyist ax grinders, thus, void of editing, fact-checking and objective exposition..." and I believe I've made that case.

Do you contend that Obama has helped our image?

Honest Debate said...

Here Nonny, I'll throw you a bone.

The world liked Clinton (and Gore for that matter) better than Bush or Obama. But they didn't respect him as much as they loved him.

Honest Debate said...

And another thing Nonny,

Show me where a House of Commons committee ever said anything comparing to what they are saying now. You won't find it but you can find plenty of "diatribes by hobbyist ax grinders, thus, void of editing, fact-checking and objective exposition". Funny how you rely on them while denouncing them. The MPs are now in hind sight knocking "England's alignment with Bush". At the time there was much support. The dropping of the Churchill's phrase "special relationship" is happening now, no one suggested it then.

Your other example (Merkel) came from an opinion piece to which you again give credence but the fact remains Obama "is precisely the president she didn't want to see in office, because he is the antithesis of her. This sentiment has been palpable from the very beginning, and it hasn't gone away." That's the bottom line and an opinion you segregate from the article.

On another thread you demand links on denied funding. I suppose you want "printless diatribes by hobbyist ax grinders, thus, void of editing, fact-checking and objective exposition".

Meanwhile you avoid the actual statements by Karzai, Sarkozy and as I mentioned British MPs. You don't touch the actual deterioration of our relations with Israel. You ignore the betrayal of Poland and the Iranian people. Can you comment (without mentioning Fox) on any of that?

Anonymous said...

Not really. Totally honest....those are the articles I skipped.

You don't typically post total BS, HD, so I assume there's some validity here in regard to politicians in some countries not being all that happy that they're not getting their way. But I do stand by the examples I cited as at least mild proof that, without a full, objective and robust view of any specific deterioration claim, only one's own opinion will win out as "the truth."

BTW, wasn't it just a couple months ago that myriad conservative bloggers were complaining that Obama was so concerned about our place in the world and not wanting to offend any other nation that he was risking making us look like a lapdog to the U.N.?

Based on the commentary I've read here and elsewhere over the past 15 months, it would seem to me that rightists would cheer for a President who pissed off so many countries. Why the switch?

BikerBard said...

Liberal POV:
More questions for you.
Can you quit before the job is done?
Can you not read a newspaper?
Do you not understand the most basic concepts of our democracy?
Other than Washington, can you not name a founding father?
Can you parent a child without moral values?
Can you use your children as props?
Are you an airhead?

If you answered "yes" to any and all questions, you just might be a Palin.

guy faulkes said...

Once again, BB has graced us with a personal attack rather than a relative post about the subject of the thread. Big Surprise! One would think even Liberalproverbs18:2 would be ashamed of his support.

Liberal POV said...

BB

She ( Palin ) is HOT and can whip up a mob with heckling those trying to find answers to the world's problems. Palin has been mayor of a town the size of Stony Point, NC but had to hire the town's first town manager creating a large debt. Despite building a hugh recreation center teen pregnancy and drug use continued.

Can you imagine Palin in charge of a major world crisis?

The tea party mob has no plan, no ideas and no leadership.

guy faulkes said...

Can you imagine Palin in charge of a major world crisis?

Certainly, she could handle it with great competency.

Can you answer any of the questions, LiberalProverbs18:2? I think not.

Sarkazein said...

PHOTO RELEASED of GOP Official and Boyfriend Beaten Bloody
by Jim Hoft
Jack A. Neal posted this photo and comment on Bobby Jindal’s Facebook page tonight: Hi folks. I was in New Orleans this past Friday night. I was dining within a half block of where the incident involving Allee Butsch happened. I joined this group so that I might share the info, as well as a photo I took. More to come…///

The first story out is the attacker attacked them because of their Palin buttons.
HERE

Honest Debate said...

Sark,

Oatz commented on this story a day or two ago. At first it was reported the reason was they were wearing Palin pins. It turns out that was untrue. New Orleans (I've gigged there many times) is a seedy, nasty and dangerous place. It may have no connection at all to politics.

Of course we know if they were Libs the Tea Partiers would be blamed first without evidence. If it turns out to be politically motivated then hopefully we'll find out...but probably not from the MSM.

Sarkazein said...

H.D-

I would like to think if the Republican had been armed, he could have blown the attacker away. But the story is still developing. Marxist thugs

Sarkazein said...

H.D-
Before the Democrat City of New Orleans was flushed, it had the highest murder rate in the country. It is working its way back to number one.

Liberal POV said...

HD

" We should do what is right and our image will be fine in the long run."


On this we strongly agree what we disagree on is what is right.

I don't think human rights abuse and torture is right.

I don't think the invasion of Iraq was right.

I don't think failing to cover 45 million Americans with health care with is right.

I don't think for profit prisons are right.

I don't think having 1% of our population in prison is right.

I don't think deporting 12 million American residents who came here to make a better life is right.

I don't think a Capitalist system in the richest country in the world having close to 50% of the citizens earning less than a living wage is right.

I don't think allowing a banking system bailed out by American tax payer charge the same citizens 30% on credit cards is right.

I don't think supporting an American Christian Theocracy is right.

I don't think the for profit fear and hate mongers ( Palin, Ann Coulter, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Right wing radio preachers) spreading fear and lies is right.

I don't think the conservative movement and Republicans party appealing to the worst of humanity is right. ( Fear, Hate, Greed,and prejudice)

Liberal POV said...

HD

I don't think unquestioned support of anything Israel does is right.

Liberal POV said...

HD

One of the reasons conservatives have trouble seeing right from wrong is you try to show you're more patriotic than those liberals by alway trying to wave a flag bigger than a house. In doing so you can't see anything but part of the symbol of America and you can't see that you're draging the symbol of America in the mud as you attemp to show your patriotism and you can't turn around as you would have to walk all over your big flag.

This is why conservatives have no vision for the future as they can't see what's happening in the present.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

I don't think you're right.

Sarkazein said...

POV wrote-"I don't think unquestioned support of anything Israel does is right."


It is amazing how people of legal voting age can form an opinion and disregard all the peace talks and treaties Israel has agreed to. Those concessions by Israel come from questioned support of Israel. In fact, it would be morally safe to give Israel unquestioned support. "Unquestioned support" only lives in the twisted and unrealistic mind of the liberal.
What are you on?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

You're from Texas where propaganda replaces historic facts.

Liberal news outlet don't exsist in much of the South, NPR radio airways are replaced with radical intolorant right wing for profit Christian hate and fear ministers.

I have no idea what these outlets have you believing.

guy faulkes said...

Sark, is it not interesting that Liberalproverbs18:2 considers NPR to be a legitimate news source. It is even more biased than MSNBC, That least that organization is able to make it in the free market, unlike NPR. It is also interesting that our liberal friend rants against christian broadcasting. As a supporter of lesser jihad, he would be all for Muslim broadcasting.

However, this brings up a good point. There is no doubt that spending has to be curtailed. What better place to make budget cuts than the funding for NPR. This would force this organization to join the mainstream to the extent it could survive in the free market or it would die, as it should if it is not competitive.

Liberalproverbs18;2 is not capable of understanding that the man-child Messiah is a laughing stock that is looked upon with derision by most of the world.

guy faulkes said...

OOPs! I forgot to ask Liberalproverbs18:2 to back up what he said by answering the questions he ran from. By the way, if any of you (other than POV, and friends) want me to stop asking him about his refusal to stand behind what he ways, let me know. I will stop.

Sarkazein said...

This is POV searching for another gem of a comment.

" Liberal news outlet don't exsist in much of the South, NPR radio airways are replaced with radical intolorant right wing for profit Christian hate and fear ministers."-POV

Appearenty POV is restricted to local internet only, and thinks everyone else is also. Ya see, with local internet, you can't get the NYT,Washington Post, 3,000 other news sites.....awww what's the use?

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes- The only time I watch Public Broadcast is for music concerts. I used to watch Motorweek, but every program is 5 to 1 foreign cars.
I can't believe our tax money goes to support Public Entertainment, when we are Trillions in debt.

Sarkazein said...

Hey POV, I forget, where is CNN headquartered?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

" I used to watch Motorweek, but every program is 5 to 1 foreign cars. "

Where are Toyota, and Kia, BMW made?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"Hey POV, I forget, where is CNN headquartered?"

CNN is owned my a major Multinational Corporation Time Warner and is required to compete using sensationalism and advetizing filters. No they're not as bad as Fox but still lacking in objectivity.

NPR has langer and more indepth coverage with interviews with a wide range of people.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

Please continue to ask your gun fetish questions to illustrate your obsession with guns and weapons.

It's good that the world see how a republican like you thinks.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

"Appearenty POV is restricted to local internet only, and thinks everyone else is also. Ya see, with local internet, you can't get the NYT,Washington Post, 3,000 other news sites.....awww what's the use?"

Sark you forget much of the rural south lives in proverty and not only has no access to NPR but no access to the internet or a computer.
Can you pick up an FM NPR station in your Texas town on public airways?

guy faulkes said...

Liberalproverbs18:2, it is also good to illustrate you say things that you know nothing about and that you are afraid to even attempt to justify or substantiate. I notice you have neither links or answers. Is your picture next to inconsequential in the dictionary? Any answers to back up your statements?

Sarkazein said...

" Liberal news outlet don't exsist in much of the South, NPR radio airways are replaced with radical intolorant right wing for profit Christian hate and fear ministers."-POV

POV, this is your comment. Please read it for the first time. I had actually read it and was commenting on that comment. That is why I pasted it in quotes.

Sarkazein said...

POV- I never did like langer, I guess that's why I don't use them as a new source.

Sarkazein said...

Should be "news" source.

Liberal POV said...

Sark

Can you pick up an FM NPR station in your Texas town on public airways?

Honest Debate said...

"NPR has langer and more indepth coverage with interviews with a wide range of people." -LiberalPOV

I think you meant, "NPR has langer and more indepth coverage with interviews with a wide range of" Democrats.

During the Bush years I had a bet with a very liberal friend and NPR devotee. We bet a homemade loaf of whole wheat bread. I claimed she would never hear one positive thing about Bush on NPR. She listened closely for the praise over the next six months.

Her bread was delicious!

Liberal POV said...

HD

"During the Bush years I had a bet with a very liberal friend and NPR devotee."

That was a safe bet did Bush ever do anything positive?

Please list those other than what i remember below?

Bush did propose a reasonable immigration bill and he did do the right thing by not allowing complete economic collapse from his political decisions. He also finally blocked Cheney from all of the decision making.

Honest Debate said...

So Lib, I take it you don't consider it positive that Bush saved 2 million people in Africa with his AIDS program. Is it because you hate blacks? Or do you hate the poor? Why do you want those poor black people to die?

Your sick man.

Liberal POV said...

HD

"So Lib, I take it you don't consider it positive that Bush saved 2 million people in Africa with his AIDS program."

What was Bush policy that saved 2 million from AIDs in Africa?

I do remember Bush promising $15Billion dollars in aid to Africa but i don't recall when if ever that happened.

How do your fellow Tea Party Mob and Conservative feel about $15 Billion in foreign aid to Africa?

Did you really think I would oppose such aid?

Why would you use such statements as below?

"Is it because you hate blacks? Or do you hate the poor? Why do you want those poor black people to die?"

guy faulkes said...

You know, I think that Liberalproverbs18:2 has proven he says things he knows nothing about and cannot substantiate. Therefore, why should we bother to continue to answer is questions? When he answers questions then we should respond to him, but not until then.

Honest Debate said...

Lib,

"What was Bush policy that saved 2 million from AIDs in Africa?"

Are you kidding me? How did you miss it? I guess that's what happens when you rely on NPR.

Why on earth would anyone object to saving 2 million people? I heard no complaints from anybody. Everyone I know thought it was positive...except for you. Why? Is it because you hate blacks? Or do you hate the poor? Why do you want those poor black people to die?

Honest Debate said...

Here you go Lib. I did the work for you. NPR has so woefully let you down. I choose two right wing nut sources.

Bob Geldolf's Time article and MSNBC.

I can't believe you don't think this was positive.

You won't read it and if you do you won't respond.

Liberal POV said...

HD

Good post! Why can't you do more like that.

My belief is Bush was dumber than he was mean spirited Cheney and Rumsfelt get most of my blame.

I also believe Bush is much more liberal today than during his adminstsation. I think his children are to the left of Bush.

Two questions?

Are these actions by Bush an argument that health care is a basic human right?

Would the Tea Party Mob approve of such foreign programs?

Liberal POV said...

Sark

In case you missed this post.


Can you pick up an FM NPR station in your Texas town on public airways?

How about listing the programs that fills the 88.5 to 91.9 on your local FM Stations in enlightened Texas?