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Wednesday, May 12, 2010

On This Blog, Liberals Responding to Revolutionaries as Well as Terrorists

34 comments:

Blogger said...

Because the responses we are getting from the left are so crazy, I can only believe it is more evidence either of reflex hate for this country or some type of activity from the source of America hatred i.e. the Prince of this World.

Wolf's Head said...

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Their thought processes are nothing like being sane.

They are totally ruled by emotion and an inferiority complex that causes them to deny reality, and latch onto any emotional topic that allows them to be part of something bigger than themselves as they hate their own existence.

LPOV proves this with every post.

Blogger said...

Wolf as to this inferiority complex, we saw this in Obama running around the world apologizing as well as bowing.

Cinncinatus said...

It's not America they hate it's anyone who disagrees with them, which primarily means us.

Anonymous said...

Funny how the whole "denial of reality" works, Wolf. Sark's and guy's highly specific yet false statements of fact related to the protest video in the last thread bear this out.

Based on that thread, it would appear that a conservative could broadcast a video of a no-hitter baseball game on this blog and then claim that the game included a homerun by the team that had no hits, knowing full well that his group-thought yesmen will just jump right in and agree.

But allow one liberal to simply ask the man to point out the inning, the batter number and the pitch count of the phantom homer, and the conservative and his buddies will, it would seem, cry that the liberal is blind or insane instead of backing up their specific claims with video proof or admitting they either made a mistake or lied.

Reality denial indeed.

Sarkazein said...

The Che' Jr video went against the liberal's idea that all illegal immigrants are just hard working family people wanting a piece of the American Dream. So their brains, having seen they are wrong, deny what they saw and heard. The guy says revolution 11 times, pale white people, America is a beast, the land is stolen, and celebrates known murderers and dictators... the left tries to convince us he didn't say those things because they can not accept the FACT they are wrong.

If the illegals are given amnesty, when they do rebel, it will be a civil war and not an invasion. They will fight to turn the US into the same dump they are escaping. If they were given Texas, they would be swimming the Red River within a few years, trying to escape the newly messed up land. Before you know it, they would be revolting against the Canadians.

Anonymous said...

Sark: You say "The guy says revolution 11 times, pale white people, America is a beast, the land is stolen, and celebrates known murderers and dictators."

I have no reason to question these claims as I heard those comments in the video. THESE statements of fact actually align with the true content of the video.

However, the video does not show the speaker "calling for violent overthrow of this country," or "inciting armed revolution," as guy claims. And it doesn't reveal the speaker to be one who "poisons the minds of the youth at tax-payers' expense" as you claim.

Those specific statements of fact, made by guy and by you, are simply not backed up by the video. No one can point to the place in the video that proves any of those three statements. As such, they are either mistakes, lies, or pure opinion. But they are not facts.

I'm not burying my head on this one. The speaker is scary. The speaker is riled up. The speaker is claiming that America stole his ancestors' land.

I don't agree with the guy, but that can't lead me to see and hear specific words that simply don't exist on the video.

Liberal POV said...

Conservative and Blogger

Heres some interesting and little know history.

There's a documentry called "Cuba: An African Odyssey"

This is a review of that Documentry. Reguardless of you political views I think you will find it interesting.

http://www.wbez.org/content.aspx?audioID=25881

Wolf's Head said...

"highly specific yet false statements of fact related to the protest video" nony mouse

Well, I did not pay attention to the specifics you asked for, and really don't care. As Sark points out there is plenty evidence in the video, and as I stated your perception of reality is f***ed up, so even if Guy wasted his time in replying, it would be to no avail.

The video was riddled with hate speech, racism and calls to violence and breaking the law. Which of course you lefties blame on the "Evil White Man" because we are so, well, evil.

Your self loathing must really bother you, perhaps you should move to the socialist paradise of Mexico and change your name.

guy faulkes said...

Your self loathing must really bother you, perhaps you should move to the socialist paradise of Mexico and change your name. - Wolf's Head

They probably can not do this legally, Wolf. Mexican immigration laws will probably not let them. Of course they could be illegal aliens.

Anonymous said...

And that quip does what, guy, to show where in the video the speaker either "calls for violent overthrow of this country" or "incites armed revolution?"

Geez, you guys give POV hell about "never answering the questions." This one is easy. All you have to do is pinpoint a time mark if, indeed, your two specific statements of fact are valid.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger and Right Wingers

You folks are constantly indulging in right wing myths and over zealous patriotism.

True or not whether you agree or not Ernest "Che" Guevara has move to the ream of Robin Hood,and Ronald Reagan.

Most of todays world see Che Guevara as the young man born to privlieged parents who became a doctor. This man of privlege road a motorcycle through South America and was eye wittness to the failures of Capitalism in much of the world. He lived and died the life of a revolutary.

The youth of today will not hear the part of the story where he took pleasure in executions as you will not hear the part extreme right winger played into his role on the path to legend and world hero to many today's youth around the world.

Myth has become the fact in the story of Che Guevara as it has with you that Reagan was a great president. Truth can no longer be heard.

guy faulkes said...

You might be correct, Liberalprovrbs18:2, about young people not being taught the truth about Che. That is part of the problem now. However, the history book decisions made in Texas and the fact that vouchers for education may come about after the 2010 elections give us all hope for better times.

Nonymouse I have answered you many times. you are just to stupid to realize what is being said in the video. I understand there is a nationwide movement to see if his local school board can be influenced to cause this man to look for another job.

Anonymous said...

Right Wingers

Lets not forget the lessons to be learned in the making of Che's legend. The right wing refusing to reform the capitalist system to allow a living wage, basic health care, repressive governments flustrated citizens feeling governmental power was against them.

We just had Chiquita Banana paying death squads to keep workers in line in Central America.

http://upsidedownworld.org/main/content/view/684/1/

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/59625-chiquita-banana-death-squads.html

The Che legend could not be possible without the Crazy greedy right wingers.

Anonymous said...

No, guy, you've not answered me. That's as much a fabrication as are the specific words you put in the speaker's mouth.

You can say that you don't appreciate his tone or his word selection or his opinions or his specific take on history. You can pose that it makes you mad when those who may be here illegally speak poorly, falsely or angrily about our nation. You can even go so far as to say you fear that the angry spirit of the video guy's speech is one that may stir others to commit harmful acts.

Those would be completely fair and valid statements of opinion that I'd actually share.

But there's no way you can honestly, accurately or factually point to a specific time mark in the video in which he "calls for violent overthrow of this country" or "incites armed revolution."

To show you didn't lie, you only have to point to two itty-bitty time marks. Surely you can muster that much integrity, can't you?

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"I understand there is a nationwide movement to see if his local school board can be influenced to cause this man to look for another job."

This will work as well for right wingers as someone one the left trying to get a tea party school teacher fired. You people are your own worst enemies, you can't see that such actions legitimize his rhetoric with your petty acts to supress freedom of speech.

Sarkazein said...

Anonymous writes- "Sark: You say "The guy says revolution 11 times, pale white people, America is a beast, the land is stolen, and celebrates known murderers and dictators. I have no reason to question these claims as I heard those comments in the video. THESE statements of fact actually align with the true content of the video.

However, the video does not show the speaker "calling for violent overthrow of this country," or "inciting armed revolution," as guy claims. And it...yadayadayada"

That is one of the goofiest statements I have ever read. They are either facts or they or not facts. The goofy part, is you agree with the obvious statement made by me, BUT since you can't find YOUR own made-up quotes in the video, you think you have some kind of point.
You must be trying to say, "Yes the man threatened you with death, BUT he didn't say I am going to kill you with a knife. Your point is something two stoners or bored out of work lawyers would sit around and debate. Your point has no merit.

Anonymous said...

Wrong. You and guy made highly specific statements of fact connected to the video when there was no specific video evidence to back your statements. THAT made them either opinion or lies. Plain and simple.

I didn't make up the thread quotes. All you have to do is go back to the original thread and read your statement and guy's. YOU guys made up the "facts."

If they exist in the video, please point them out. If they didn't, you either lied or were mistaken.

I agree with your "feelings" about the speaker and his message. I just can't see how any non-brainwashed individual can agree with your supposed statements of fact as those facts are not proven out through the video.

If they CAN be proven through the video, please point out the time mark that corresponds to each of the three statements of fact I've repeatedly and accurately cited.

If they CANNOT be proven through citation of specific time marks on the video, just sack up and admit you were blowing off steam. It's really just that simple.

Sarkazein said...

A'mous- Your denial probably can be treated.
This is an argument you should have amongst yourselves.

Sarkazein said...

Scream your ignorance from the roof tops POV.

"This will work as well for right wingers as someone one the left trying to get a tea party school teacher fired. You people are your own worst enemies, you can't see that such actions legitimize his rhetoric with your petty acts to supress freedom of speech."-POV

At least you admit Che' Jr is part of your Left. Your abject idiocy that you will not realize is comparing a citizen wanting lower taxes and less government to a Communist shouting for the armed revolution and take over of the United States by non citizens or those with Hispanic ancestry.

Wolf's Head said...

All right Anonym-ass, I sat down and watched the video.

At:35 "A revolutionary organization here".

At :41 "Global struggle against Imperialism" ( I didn't know that Obama was an emperor)

At 1:03 "Bring revolutionary context to this"

At 1:20 "at the forefront of the revolutionary movement is La Raza"

At 2:00 "Domino theory"

At 2:35 "we see ourselves as the northern front of a Latin American revolution"

At 3:05 "40 million potential revolutionaries inside the belly of the beast"

I gave up after that.. If Anonym-ass doesn't believe these people mean us and our country harm he is a moron.

Sarkazein said...

"revolution", "Northern front", "revolutionaries", "domino theory"... To Anonymous, Che' Jr could have been talking about a piñata party.

The original post's picture says it best.

guy faulkes said...

It might interest Nonymouse to know that teh governor of Arizona just signed a law prohibiting teaching studies that promote one racial group over another. It also banns teaching the violent overthrow of the government of the Unites States. When asked if there were classes teaching the violent overthrow of the government the person that was a sponsor of the bill (a Hispanic) quoted the speech by Nony"s "nonviolent" hero.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, wolf, for taking the time to pull out those quotes. You pretty much made my point for me.

While angry words like "revolution" and "global struggle," and "potential revolutionaries" are properly quoted, you, like everyone else, are unable to show a single time mark at which the speaker specifically:

1. "calls for violent overthrow of this country,"
2. "incites armed revolution," or
3. is shown to have "poisoned the minds of the youth at tax-payers' expense"

I never said the speaker did not mean this country harm. My sole point throughout is that the three specifically cited statements of fact by Sark and guy, statements claiming specific contextual actions on the part of the speaker, are completely bogus as any thorough, unfiltered and objective video review proves.

Again, thank you, wolf.

guy faulkes said...

I think it is pretty evident that most people agree with Sark and me when a state passes a law citing the same issues with which we were concerned.

Also three towns in New York have passed laws that all official business has to be done in English. Things are looking up.

Sarkazein said...

Anonymous- Che' Jr is calling for an armed revolution, is speaking to students and poisoning their minds with praise for Che' Sr and stating America is stolen property and a beast.

You could not be more wrong. Don't expect me to be part of your denial.
The point is, his speech uncovers what I have known to be fact for years. You are in denial because it goes against your mind-set that America is a "mean" country, that you have not been proud of. In other-words, Che' Jr spilled the frijoles and the new media is running with it.
Instead of trying to distract from the content in which you write that you agree, why don't you comment on how ungrateful these economic refugees are. Also comment on what you think about a teacher telling America and his students there are 40 million revolutionaries to help in the struggle to take-over the United States. Or maybe you don't think the United States would have to fall before it lost 5 of it's states to "revolutionaries".

Nobody said...

A'mous's refusal to see the forest for the trees is amusing. He demands exact quotes to support statements that summarize the overall intent of the speech. Back in the '80s and '90's conservatives were constantly accused of being racists (as they still are today -- see posts by A'mous and LPOV). When asked by conservatives to point out specific examples of racist statements, we were told that conservatives were "speaking in code." There was no such burden of proof that is being demanded by A'mous applied to accusations of racism then or now. I seriously don't see how anyone can listen to this video -- it's overall tone, references to revolution, identifying capitalism and imperialism as the enemy, stating that he is standing on stolen ground, referring to Che (research a few Che quotes) -- can come away with any other conclusion than that the speaker is supporting revolution in and against the United States. Amous is trying to get everyone bogged down in meticulous detail defending the obvious. He is probably congratulating himself over his supreme achievement while the rest of us are staring at the computer screen with our mouths hanging open at the extreme ignorance being demonstrated. I notice he holds LPOV to no such standards on his ridiculous statements.

Sarkazein said...

Anonymous's denial must be the same as when Osama bin Laden declared war on the United States, and Bill Clinton answered by ordering pizza before being serviced by Monica. Because Anonymous would argue... "Yeah, but he didn't say he was going to send commercial airlines into the WTC buildings on 9/11."

Anonymous said...

You're still claiming that the no-hitter game video includes a homerun by the losing team.

You can accurately and fairly portray the tone of the speaker as something that is unsettling and scary, but you are unable to point to any specific time mark at which any of the three cited statements of fact are validated.

It's not my intent to make the speaker out to be anything more than the ridiculously irate and illogical blabberer that he appears to be. But at the same time, we still have three highly specific statements of fact that have yet to be proven.

Justify and rationalize on, guys.

Sarkazein said...

Sorry, your time is up.

Anonymous said...

Seriously.....does anyone have real-world knowledge of HD? Not looking for identification, but I am a bit concerned for him as I haven't read anything from him lately.

Sarkazein said...

Seriously... what?

Honest Debate said...

Dang Nonny, I didn't know you cared.

Sarkazein said...

FOX News caught up with Che' Jr. Like all socialists/communists, he lied about his speech when confronted. Apparently he got too much grief from the people he worked with. And apparently when people said: "come on pendejo... revolt", he wussed out.

Socialists are liars, cowards, and thieves. Che' Jr is a perfect example.