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Tuesday, May 4, 2010

Strike Three?


I'm sure by now everyone has heard about the failed terrorist attack in Times Square. By my count this is the third terrorist attack since Obama came into office. Fortunately this one failed as opposed to being thwarted. Abdulmutallab also failed on Christmas day but Hasan was successful at Ft. Hood. All three had terrorist ties. In addition to the driver Faisel Shazad, eight have been arrested in Pakistan over this latest incident. Too bad for the press, they were just itching for it to be a tea partier, which is disgusting. It turns out he was a registered Democrat but we won't be hearing much about that. He's an American citizen (as Hasan) so the whole miranda question is dicey.

Kudos to law enforcement for closing the loop so fast and extra special kudos to the watchful citizens. Unfortunately, law enforcement is reactionary not preemptive. As with Abdulmattalab it was incompetance and luck that saved disaster. My question is the same one I had with the last two terrorist attacks, has Gorelick's wall been rebuilt? We'll learn more but it seems to me there were flags.

14 comments:

guy faulkes said...

In my opinion, the fact that the man was an American citizen does give him certain rights that he does not have if he had been a foreign combatant. It also makes things worse for him.

He is now a traitor as he was apparently working with foreign enemy combatants and has admitted being trained by them. This means that Congress can charge him, try him and execute him. However, this is not likely under the Obama administration and the liberal Congress that seems admire terrorists as much as Liberalproverbs18:2. Maybe something can be done after the 2010 elections.

"The Constitution does not itself create the offense; it only restricts the definition (the first paragraph), permits Congress to create the offense, and restricts any punishment for treason to only the convicted (the second paragraph). The crime is prohibited by legislation passed by Congress. Therefore the United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." - from Wikipedia

The left lusting for this to be member of the Tea party movement is indeed disgusting as is the double standard between the reporting of how non-violent Tea Party events are reported in contrast to violent protests by illegal aliens and their supporters by the lame stream media. HD is correct. Political correctness is more important to the left than is fairness or the safety of the country.

Blogger said...

Ann Coulter describes Obama/s National Security Policy as: "Hope Their Bombs Don't Work"

Honest Debate said...

Thanks Guy for the constitutional reference. You illustrate how the internet is useless without the knowledge to know what to look for and what context to put it in. I wonder if an American can be deemed an enemy combatant and tried in a military tribunal. These are strange times and the paradigm has shifted.

I see a really weird ray of hope that is probably misguided. The Bush/Cheney administration took these issues very seriously. They studied and delineated the line between enhanced interrogation and torture. They balanced very carefully the issues of security and civil rights. They were vilified and ridiculed for their actions. Obama, when push comes to shove, has changed little in regards to the war on terrorism. Gitmo is still there as well as indefinite detention. Water boarding is still on the table. The military death count in Afghanistan is still devastating but unreported. Obama stands a better chance than Bush/Cheney, because of the friendly press, to address the tough issues that must be confronted in this new world. Maybe he will. I still think Obama is bent on changing America to a European style socialist country but maybe just maybe he understands his ass in on the line if we get hit again. Maybe just maybe he understands that the issues Bush/Cheney were addressing need to be addressed. Maybe just maybe he has the balls to do something (with the blessing of the press) about it.

That's my hope anyway. My suspicion is that the one policy that has changed is intergovernmental communication. If Gorelick's wall has been rebuilt, all bets are off.

Honest Debate said...

Blogger,

Say what you will about Ann Coulter but she is dead on and uses few words to be so.

I'm really trying to have faith in Obama but it is hard.

Sarkazein said...

H.D- Trying to have faith in Obama? Your faith should be in Obama not getting in the way of the agencies and the people who are assigned to protect us.

The "HOPE their bombs don't work" is right on. POV should be writing Napalitano and Holder and Obama telling them just to ignore it and it will go away.

guy faulkes said...

POV should be writing Napalitano and Holder and Obama telling them just to ignore it and it will go away.

He probably is.

Honest Debate said...

"Your faith should be in Obama not getting in the way of the agencies and the people who are assigned to protect us." -Sarkazein

That's what I said.

"I'm really trying to have faith in Obama but it is hard."

To be clear, I don't have that faith but I am thankful he lied so profusely during the campaign about Gitmo, indefinite detention, leaving Iraq...etc. He is killing muslims at a pretty good clip.

My fear is that Obama has rebuilt the "wall". How could Shahzad go to Pakistan 13 times last year, be trained by Taliban bomb makers and nobody know? How did he board a plane at the last second and almost get away? How did he become a citizen in the first place? It looks to me that people did know but did not move that information through the proper channels. Computer data bases were not updated.

Blogger said...

Once again they read him Miranda rights. I heard that if they suspect there may be other threats or threats in the making, they are not obligated to read them immediately. Even as galling are all the government controlled media people saying that he is giving us a lot of information. How would they know? And, are they certain Jack Bauer could not get more.

Liberal POV said...

Blogger

"And, are they certain Jack Bauer could not get more."

Are you the same old fart saying the government is over stepping its authority and not following the constitution? You in the tea party mob are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Had this been a Christian extremist would you still not want the person given Miranda rights and tortured?

Do you want him to be found not guilty because of poor police work?

Blogger the Hollywood version of torture may be a lot cleaner than reality.

What the hell is your sense of justice and morality?

guy faulkes said...

I cannot speak for Blogger, but I want him charged with treason, tried, convicted as he has admitted his guilt, and then executed.

Sarkazein said...

Guy Faulkes-

If American citizens had joined the North Vietnamese (as Jane Fonda did) and were caught taking up arms against America, they would be tried as traitors. I don't see any difference here as far a citizenship goes... they loose it after a hearing of about 2 minutes. Then are executed as illegal combatants (not enemy combatants) as they were not meeting the qualifications set forth by the GC.

guy faulkes said...

Srak, good point about Fonda. I wonder if there is a statute of limitations concerning being a traitor. She certainly gave comfort to the enemy.

Sarkazein said...

Anyone who is against profiling is crazy.

Liberal POV said...

Guy

"If American citizens had joined the North Vietnamese (as Jane Fonda did) and were caught taking up arms against America, they would be tried as traitors."

Did you ever find out what that war was about and was it worth 50,000 of my peers?

Did Jane Fonda know something the politicians of the time didn't?

We killed over 2 million Vietnamese but found we couldn't kill our way to victory the country belonged to them.

Did our world end when they won the war?

Should you try to learn from this history?